Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?
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David in NJ
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The passage which declares JESUS is Elohim
Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
19So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’ ”
21And he said, “All these things I have kept from my youth.”
22So when Jesus heard these things, He said to him, “You still lack one thing. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me.”
23But when he heard this, he became very sorrowful, for he was very rich.
We've been though this before. Nothing in this passage indicates that Jesus is declaring himself to be good (= God).
Wrangler
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You just re-quote the first 3 verses but ignore the implications for the trinity heresy. Nice!
So when you said in Post #797 that "Torah SPEAKS of MESSIAH" you were just creating a diversion? What was the point of that comment?
David in NJ
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It is THERE
Right now you're eyes are closed due to your thought process being governed by a foreign entity = unbelief
SEE = "But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions."
David in NJ
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Not intentional and my morning coffee did not 'kick-in' until now
The Torah BEGINS with Elohim/Plural = which the Scripture passage we are on VALIDATES Jesus as Elohim with His FATHER
I see a rich man preferring possessions to charity. What has that got to do with the divinity of Christ?
David in NJ
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the Commandments are the CLUE
the young rich man walked away from Immannuel = God with us = Eternal LIFE
Yes, I know. And the reason I know has nothing to do with this passage, in which Jesus does NOT declare himself to be Immannuel = God with us = Eternal LIFE. We know that from other passages (none of which have anything to do with the Commandments).
I quoted the exact verses you mentioned.
You did not acknowledge..Gods Word is God..,God named His Word …JESUS…Gods Word came forth out of Gods mouth…and was Sent to Earth in the Body God prepared. Nor answer the questions asked.
If you are converted. … which you also never answered….not How.
Newsflash…The New restored Earth Shall be occupied by everlasting Converted, Living men, Declared “sons of God”…with Their Mighty God…Jesus the Everlasting FATHER…
Isa 9:
[6] For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counseller, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Glory to the Lord God Almighty;
He who IS, He who WAS, He who IS to Come!
John 18:
[8] Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he:
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David in NJ
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Well, you will remain at your present location until the Holy Spirit opens your understanding or when you get to Heaven and all the blinders are removed.
@RLT63 - you are invited to the conversation and the Truth challenge concerning Matt 19:13-22
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David in NJ
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The monotheistic Jews wanted to kill JESUS for saying: "I am HE"
They knew what JESUS was equating Himself to from Torah
amigo de christo
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amigo de christo
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Oh my dear friend
Many will remain at their present condition
having eyes but see not
having ears but hear not .
And while its truth that On the day of the LORD the sheep and the goats will stand before him .
All seeing the VERY TRUTH in front of them . Not a goat one gonna hear well done enter in ........
There is good reason i remind us of what we already know .
David , many there be that are in deadly dire danger of eternal damnation .
And though they might even sing the song , when we all get to heaven , We shall shout the victory
many have denied the true image of GOD and followed another jesus , another spirit , another gospel .
THEY WONT SINGING IN HEAVEN DAVID but rather screaming in eternal judgement .
Now that might sound a lil grave , a lil hard stance , maybe even judgemental to most .
BUT ITS REALITY friend . FELIX TREMBLED when paul witnessed . aint a darn thing wrong with being grave .
Magdala
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You're doing what many people who fail at an argument do. You're trying to make it about me when you couldn't adequately answer my questions:
Regarding Jn. 8:58, in post #755, I asked if you accept that Jesus said He's always existed, but you didn't answer, and rather asked questions. That is a failure to engage. You said that the name "I AM", the name of God given by Him to Moses, is a shareable family name. So, I asked for your explanation of why the Pharisees attempted to stone Jesus to death after He called Himself "I AM" if it's just a shareable family name, but you didn't give it, and rather cited scriptural verses and told me to interpret the context myself. That is a failure to engage.
Therefore, you lose credibility. You come across as someone who is closed-minded, unwilling to listen, and not interested in engaging in meaningful dialogue. And, your argument falls over and you along with it.
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amigo de christo
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Would you like to witness something very very deadly .
Did you know that even a lot of people who know the truth about The godhead
still DENY THE VERY GOD of said GOD head .
Would you like to know how they do this .
For though they say the truth about the Godhead
they sure dont seem to treat JESUS , HIS WORDS , HIS WARNINGS as THE TRUTH OF GOD AT ALL .
Now that is super scary indeed .
How so you might ask . well can GOD LIE . and your answer would be NO WAY . very good for that answer .
BUT now for my question . WHY DOES SATAN MEN OF INTERFAITH TREAT HIS WORDS
, HIS WARNINGS HE GAVE , as though JESUS just was not telling truth .
WHY O why does satans interfaith , co exist false lovey do
try and rather say , AS WOULD THE SERPENT , OH its okay if one believes not , THey gonna not perish
in fact all religoins are finding their own way to GOD . THAT JUST CALLED JESUS A LIAR . which means THEY JUST CALLED GOD A LIAR .
amigo de christo
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the problem with this generation is just cause the word love is attached , they BELEIVE IT .
well if a man cometh and tries to sell dung as chocolate
and says HEY tis brown , YOU GONNA BUY THAT DUNG . Exactly . STOP BUYING THE WORLDS VERSION OF LOVE
as though it be GODS VERSION of LOVE .
well if a man cometh and tries to sell dung as chocolate
and says HEY tis brown , YOU GONNA BUY THAT DUNG . Exactly . STOP BUYING THE WORLDS VERSION OF LOVE
as though it be GODS VERSION of LOVE .
amigo de christo
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and interfaith all inclusive co exist wanna destroy true lambs JUST cause we say NO SIR them religoins are false
THEY NEED TO REPENT TO BELEIVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST . OH david , its gonna hit the fan soon my friend .
This people , no matter what doctrines they believe , They merging as one under false love that is of the world .
That is there common ground , that is their golden bull , that is their hope and their mantra . YET their love
DENIES JESUS and the dire need to BELEIVE ON HIM .
One would be amazed at what just a little leaven can do and can in time LEAD TOO as ERROR simply begets MORE ERROR .
judge not correct not , WHAT A TOTAL DISASTER that junk was ...................
Is your word…someone other than You?
Is your word…not always With and IN You?
Because Gods Word…IS God.
Because God Word is always With and IN God.
John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 14:
[11a] Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me:
Glory To God,
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