Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[amigo de christo]

Sure it does!!!

Currently, you are being converted to a jw falsehood because you are doubting the words of God.

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. - Hebrews 11:6

My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.

many can quoate that my friend . many can indeed quoate HE is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him
and yet the HIM they seek , the god they love and follow after , be the god of the mirror and the god that feeds their flesh .
OH THEY DILIGENTLY SEEKING ALL RIGHT , but IT AINT GOD many do seek after , hold too , cling too ,
its he who found a way TO OMIT WHAT THE TRUE GOD SAID . and man , SHEEP DONT FOLLOW that voice
for that voice leadeth only to PERDITION now matter how much it promises salvation .

 

[David in NJ]

many can quoate that my friend . many can indeed quoate HE is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him
and yet the HIM they seek , the god they love and follow after , be the god of the mirror and the god that feeds their flesh .
OH THEY DILIGENTLY SEEKING ALL RIGHT , but IT AINT GOD many do seek after , hold too , cling too ,
its he who found a way TO OMIT WHAT THE TRUE GOD SAID . and man , SHEEP DONT FOLLOW that voice
for that voice leadeth only to PERDITION now matter how much it promises salvation .

Have you noticed how satan robs the jw's of Salvation by turning them away from Salvation!!!

satan says: "focus on 'jehovah' - only worship 'jehovah' and no one else"

 

[amigo de christo]

You and @Wrangler CANNOT fulfill the Commandment of John 4:22-24 until you FIRST obey John 4:13

13Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,
but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst.
But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”


jw's will not go to the LORD Jesus Christ in order that they may be SAVED and receive JESUS everlasting WATER unto eternal LIFE

many , many , many within the entire realm of christendom and all her denominatoins WONT GO TO THAT LORD JESUS CHRIST
rather they heed the other jesus , and the other jesus WILL contradict the words of Truth .
IN fact it will contradict ANYTHING that gets in the way of its true hearts desire , THAT WHICH PLEASES SELF , man , NOT GOD .

 

[David in NJ]

@amigo de christo

Gotta go for now - contend for the FAITH that SAVES us = LORD JESUS CHRIST

 

[amigo de christo]

Have you noticed how satan robs the jw's of Salvation by turning them away from Salvation!!!

satan says: "focus on 'jehovah' - only worship 'jehovah' and no one else"

if one finds themself following a jesus and that jesus and its love
SURE SEEMS to be a man pleaser , NOT GOD PLEASER , friend i got but this to say , THEYS BEEN DECIEVED
by thier own lustful hearts desire and follow a jesus that has promised them salvation and THEIR SIN and error . that is known as
A DELUSION

 

[RedFan]

Sure it does!!!

Nonsense. Find me a verse where Jesus says He is perfect/good. For that matter, find me a verse where Jesus says He is NOT perfect/good. I'll take either one.

 

[Scott Downey]

Nonsense. Find me a verse where Jesus says He is perfect/good. For that matter, find me a verse where Jesus says He is NOT perfect/good. I'll take either one.

Why does it have to say it exactly?

Consider also the beatitudes, here are some then Christ says
48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

Why would Christ say this about other people if He was not perfect? Perfect as in a perfect relationship with the Father.

And we know Christ was without sin, and never had need of forgiveness with God.

Jesus Forbids Oaths​

33 “Again you have heard that it was said to those of [m]old, ‘You shall not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord.’ 34 But I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God’s throne; 35 nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. 36 Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. 37 But let [n]your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’ For whatever is more than these is from the evil one.

Go the Second Mile​

38 “You have heard that it was said, ‘An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth.’ 39 But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also. 40 If anyone wants to sue you and take away your tunic, let him have your cloak also. 41 And whoever compels you to go one mile, go with him two. 42 Give to him who asks you, and from him who wants to borrow from you do not turn away.

Love Your Enemies​

43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 [o]But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your [p]brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the [q]tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

 

[Scott Downey]

How about it! As Christ never lies, then Christ is perfectly doing God's will without a single failure.
John 8

28 Then Jesus said to them, “When you lift[m] up the Son of Man, then you will know that I am He, and that I do nothing of Myself; but as My Father taught Me, I speak these things

29 And He who sent Me is with Me. The Father has not left Me alone, for I always do those things that please Him.”

30 As He spoke these words, many believed in Him.

 

[Taken]

I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good.

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Jesus Never said He was not Good.

 

[Keiw]

100% laughable as you and @Wrangler cannot even understand how invalid your statement is, both biblically and logically

You cannot be saved without the THREE = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"
Echad Elohim

Let us=Jehovah( Father) and his master worker=Jesus( Prov 8:30)
John 1:3 things were created-THROUGH-Jesus= master worker by Jehovah
See at Gen 1:27= HE( not we) created--Prov 8:27-28=He created( not we)--Isaiah 40:26= HE created( not we)

 

[Keiw]

You and @Wrangler CANNOT fulfill the Commandment of John 4:22-24 until you FIRST obey John 4:13

13Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,
but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst.
But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”


jw's will not go to the LORD Jesus Christ in order that they may be SAVED and receive JESUS everlasting WATER unto eternal LIFE

Are you kidding??? Jesus is our king, we bow in obeisance to him daily by obeying him. The water Jesus gives comes straight from the Father-John 5:30= Jesus can do 0 of his own initiative. We go THROUGH Jesus and get to the Father or did you forget--I am the way, the truth and the life no one comes to the Father but THROUGH me---See the Father is the destination for a true follower as Jesus shows at John 4:22-24

 

[Wrangler]

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Jesus Never said He was not Good.

Yes he did. He rebuked the person who said he was a good teacher. Jesus uses a standard of good that only his God qualifies to meet.

You cannot admit Jesus has a God, then deny its implications or pretend sometimes he is talking about himself. He explicitly said he is not God and implicitly said he is not good.

Language Usage.
P1. If I say that I have a gardener and someone accuses me of having a green thumb AND
P2. I rebuke that accusation on the grounds that only my gardener has a green thumb
C. We must accept that I am denying the term green thumb applies to me.

Otherwise, just accept the compliment.

In John 17:1-3, Jesus separates himself from the one true God. He refers to himself as the one he (the one true God) sent. It is disingenuous to suppose he is claiming deity status in response to the man merely calling him a good teacher. This especially in light of him saying that glorifying himself to mean nothing at John 8:54. You are contradicting Jesus in claiming he is glorifying himself in the highest possible terms.

 

[Marvelloustime]

if one finds themself following a jesus and that jesus and its love
SURE SEEMS to be a man pleaser , NOT GOD PLEASER , friend i got but this to say , THEYS BEEN DECIEVED
by thier own lustful hearts desire and follow a jesus that has promised them salvation and THEIR SIN and error . that is known as
A DELUSION

@amigo de christo

 

[David in NJ]

Nonsense. Find me a verse where Jesus says He is perfect/good. For that matter, find me a verse where Jesus says He is NOT perfect/good. I'll take either one.

the deception of the spirit of error is gaining ground on you
the more you submit to man's intellect the darker it gets for you

Children can SEE where 'smart intelligent' adults expect God to give in to their demands, even though HE tells them the Truth.

Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”

So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”

He said to Him, “Which ones?”

Jesus said, “‘You shall not murder,’ ‘You shall not commit adultery,’ ‘You shall not steal,’ ‘You shall not bear false witness,’
‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ ”

The young man said to Him, “All these things I have kept from my youth. What do I still lack?”

Jesus said to him, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell what you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven;
and come, follow Me.”

But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful, for he had great possessions.

How is it that you are unable to SEE???

 

[MonoBiblical]

When did JESUS ever say HE is 'not' perfect/good???

[Mat 19:17 KJV] 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[Mar 10:18 KJV] 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
[Luk 18:19 KJV] 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

 

[Taken]

Yes he did. He rebuked the person who said he was a good teacher.

No, what you are saying did not occur.

A man called Jesus Good.
Jesus asked the man why he called Jesus good.
That was question. Not a rebuke.
Jesus did Not “say” the man was in error
Jesus Stated only God IS good.

Asking another WHY…they Say or Believe particular things…is a method to understand what another believes AND WHY they believe what they do.

Jesus reiterated ONLY God is Good…but never said that Good “did NOT apply to Him…”

As a matter of FACT…Jesus called Himself the “good” shepherd…

You cannot admit Jesus has a God, then deny its implications or pretend sometimes he is talking about himself. He explicitly said he is not God and implicitly said he is not good.

God Himself revealed…in the Beginning…
His Word, His Power ARE…”US” “OUR” Working together to Creat and Make for His Pleasure.

You should have Learned…the Name God gave His Word and the Title God gave His Power…

And should have Learned regardless of How many Names or Titles you are Called you are Still ONLY one man…as
Regardless of How many Names or Titles God is Called He Still is ONLY one God.

Gen 1:
[3] …God said…

Exactly WHOSE WORD was Spoken???

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

According to Scripture…Exactly WHO is Gods Word?

What is His Name ?

 

[David in NJ]

[Mat 19:17 KJV] 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[Mar 10:18 KJV] 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
[Luk 18:19 KJV] 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

Only One = Echad ELOHIM = SAME God from the Beginning

You did 'Right' by posting the Truth = 3 times

 

[MonoBiblical]

Only One = Echad ELOHIM = SAME God from the Beginning

You did 'Right' by posting the Truth = 3 times

I did not say Jesus is agathos, but his FATHER is.

 

[APAK]

Only One = Echad ELOHIM = SAME God from the Beginning

You did 'Right' by posting the Truth = 3 times

Do really know what other greater truth was said in those 3 verses that Mono listed? Read them again, 3x Jesus was saying he was NOT God. Does that shock you? He said only God is good and not him, or anyone else for that matter.

Let's read them again together:

[Mat 19:17 KJV] 17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
[Mar 10:18 KJV] 18 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God.
[Luk 18:19 KJV] 19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none [is] good, save one, [that is], God.

Now this was the one and only Jesus saying this right? There was not another double of himself floating in another inner or outer dimension, right?

 

[ProDeo]

I already showed you where Jesus said he is not good. Regarding whether Jesus is good is also an answer I already gave.

What an extreme interpretation of Scripture to fit your doctrine, apparently there are no limits to deny the divinity of Christ. Everybody understands what Christ meant, but not you?!

2 Corr 5:21 - For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.

1 Petr 2:22 - He committed no sin, neither was deceit found in his mouth.

U. Jesus died, which proves he is not God.

The Father wanted Him to die.

Who are you?