Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?
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If only ye knew what αγαθος means. Jesus, he is not ideal or perfect. Why do you call him perfect?
David in NJ
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When did JESUS ever say HE is 'not' perfect/good???
How can anyone possibly answer that question? Did somebody track the 99.9999% of Jesus's words not repeated in the gospels? If so, let's get them to publish!!!!!
Matthew 13:37
He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man.
Someone who is not good could not do that
Matthew 7
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them
Yes, Jesus was good walking on the earth as He was the good tree, and if good, then cannot be bad.
He answered and said to them: “He who sows the good seed is the Son of Man.
Someone who is not good could not do that
Matthew 7
15 “Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles?
17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them
Yes, Jesus was good walking on the earth as He was the good tree, and if good, then cannot be bad.
David in NJ
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Simple
"But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.’ ”
God only holds us responsible to "IT IS WRITTEN"
Keiw
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The mislead see like you. 99% of all religions claiming to be Christian are misleading all listening to them. Yes a child can see by believing Jesus.
Matt 6:33-Keep on seeking- FIRST- the kingdom and his( YHVH(Jehovah) righteousness and all these things will be added( sustenance, covering, spirituality)-- A true Christian follows Jesus footsteps as best as possible--Here is a simple one they do-John 17:6, 26--They keep on making Jesus' Fathers name known=YHVH(Jehovah)-- Yes a child can see truth.
Keiw
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He said--Jehovah rebuke you. In a real translation.
You are mistaken-All things but Michael were created -THROUGH- him--that means another did the creating. Jesus did not create anything. His God and Father created it all. Jesus( Michael) is the master worker= the one things were created-THROUGH. Jesus( Michael) was created direct-first and last.
David in NJ
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His LEAD are like me = we follow the LEADER of our SALVATION = "IAM the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE"
"no one comes to the FATHER but thru ME"
Currently, you are on the "no one" list
We who BELIEVE are on the "know One" list
Then the seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”
And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you.
Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”
David in NJ
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Keiw
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So by getting to the Father, ones heart instructs their minds 24/7-365 to do this John 4:22-24--Trinitarians cant get by Jesus to accomplish that because their hearts are mislead.
Keiw
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Yes one must know him=Father=THE ONLY TRUE GOD and know the one( John 17:3) he sent=Jesus to get eternal life. Trinitarians do not know the Father as the only true God and will lose.
David in NJ
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100% laughable as you and @Wrangler cannot even understand how invalid your statement is, both biblically and logically
You cannot be saved without the THREE = "Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness"
Echad Elohim
Wrangler
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David in NJ
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You and @Wrangler CANNOT fulfill the Commandment of John 4:22-24 until you FIRST obey John 4:13
13Jesus answered and said to her, “Whoever drinks of this water will thirst again,
but whoever drinks of the water that I shall give him will never thirst.
But the water that I shall give him will become in him a fountain of water springing up into everlasting life.”
jw's will not go to the LORD Jesus Christ in order that they may be SAVED and receive JESUS everlasting WATER unto eternal LIFE
True, but it doesn't answer the question of whether Jesus said or didn't say he wasn't perfect/good.
David, those reborn in their own spirit/nature is confirmed by their possession of the spirit of the Christ given to them by the spirit of the Father, who is God. And his spirit is in Christ, so we have both the Spirit of God and the Son in us. So who else is there to cram into the equation for salvation? I hope you are not thinking of jamming in another duplicate holy, Spirit of God for extra security, to make a really tight impenetrable seal?....
It doesn't answer my question at all:
WHERE? Chapter and verse, please.
David in NJ
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Sure it does!!!
Currently, you are being converted to a jw falsehood because you are doubting the words of God.
But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him. - Hebrews 11:6
My brethren, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience.
But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him.
But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind.
For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double-minded man, unstable in all his ways.
amigo de christo
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yet many had rather trod them words under foot . beleiving in a love god
who says HAS GOD really said , NAY nay ..............................we do realize that was the serpent .
men love to often heed the voice of he who giveth them a way around TRUTH and yet a feeling all is well to do so .
ANY GUESSES on who the daddy of that concept is . NOT GOD . the devil . and man he is a flesh feeder too .
He will present himself as GOD with a promise of Ye can do as ye desire , all will be fine , dont heed them legalistics
Dont heed them words of GOD , Boy is he a liar but it sure seems many love a lie and to make a lie .
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