Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

[Taken]

@Johann

Relentless to speak Gods Truth!!

Too many Know Not the Truth!

The Lord Gods KINGDOM is NOT “this” world.

Nothing NEW…God;
by, through, of His Word;
by, through, of His Power…
IS “Preparing” those “humans”;
WHO willingly “submit” unto Him…
THAT “they be His People” ONCE & Forever;
AND ONCE & Forever, He BE their God.

ONCE manifested…THEN SHALL His KINGDOM…Be Heaven & Earth…and ONLY “HIS People” with Him and “They” shall SEE Him as He IS…and Forever Reside “With Him” “IN His Kingdom”!
Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty….
What a Gracious and Glorious Offering He has Offered to manKIND.

(Too bad some can Not Believe…He IS He, without Seeing Him).

(Too bad ONLY a FEW will “reach out and TAKE His Offering”.)

(Too bad some WHO do Not Believe, endlessly ATTEMPT to convince Others “TO NOT Believe” He IS He.)

Thanks and Glory be unto the Holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty for ever and ever.

God bless you J.

Taken

 

[Johann]

@Johann

Relentless to speak Gods Truth!!

Too many Know Not the Truth!

The Lord Gods KINGDOM is NOT “this” world.

Nothing NEW…God;
by, through, of His Word;
by, through, of His Power…
IS “Preparing” those “humans”;
WHO willingly “submit” unto Him…
THAT “they be His People” ONCE & Forever;
AND ONCE & Forever, He BE their God.

ONCE manifested…THEN SHALL His KINGDOM…Be Heaven & Earth…and ONLY “HIS People” with Him and “They” shall SEE Him as He IS…and Forever Reside “With Him” “IN His Kingdom”!
Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty….
What a Gracious and Glorious Offering He has Offered to manKIND.

(Too bad some can Not Believe…He IS He, without Seeing Him).

(Too bad ONLY a FEW will “reach out and TAKE His Offering”.)

(Too bad some WHO do Not Believe, endlessly ATTEMPT to convince Others “TO NOT Believe” He IS He.)

Thanks and Glory be unto the Holy, holy, holy Lord God Almighty for ever and ever.

God bless you J.

Taken

Keep the faith @Taken.


2 Corinthians 10:5 is part of the apostle Paul's defense of his ministry against accusations from some in the Corinthian church who questioned his authority and the effectiveness of his ministry. In the broader context, Paul contrasts the spiritual nature of his ministry with worldly, fleshly ways of thinking.

In 2 Corinthians 10:3-4, Paul states that although he walks in the flesh, he does not war according to the flesh. His weapons are spiritual, not carnal, designed to tear down strongholds and arguments that stand against the knowledge of God.

The phrase "casting down imaginations" refers to dismantling false arguments, ideologies, and human reasoning that contradict the truth of God.

The "high things" or "lofty things" symbolize anything that sets itself up against the knowledge of God—whether they be philosophies, worldviews, or false teachings.

Paul's directive is to bring these thoughts and ideas into submission to Christ, ensuring that everything aligns with the truth of the gospel. This reflects the idea of spiritual warfare, where the battle is not against flesh and blood, but against ideas, teachings, and influences that distort or oppose the truth of God. The ultimate goal is to bring every thought into obedience to Christ.

We are in a spiritual warfare!

Johann.

 

[Keiw]

@Keiw - Rather than gaslighting, you would benefit from Learning, Trusting and Submitting to Gods Truth.
Stop leading People astray!

God said…

Ex 3:
[14] And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

Deut. 32:
[39] See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.

Isa 41:
[4] Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.

Isa 43:
[25] I, even I, am he that blotteth out thy transgressions for mine own sake, and will not remember thy sins.

Isa 48:
[12] Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.

Jesus said…

John 5:
[39] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

Luke 18:
[19] And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

John 10:
[11] I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
[14] I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

John 9:
[9] Some said, This is he: others said, He is like him: but he said, I am he.

John 10:
i and my father are one.

John 8:
[24] I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

****

John 1:
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[2] The same was in the beginning with God.
[3] All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.



Glory to God,
Taken

Get with reality--There is no=i am that i am in the Hebrew written OT. Its mistranslated in trinity translations.

 

[Taken]

Get with reality--There is no=i am that i am in the Hebrew written OT. Its mistranslated in trinity translations.

You certainly can Be unsure, Or Deny the Father, Son, Holy Spirit…is the ONE Lord God Almighty…
IS: the heavenly All Powerful , All knowing, All present, Creator and Maker ONE God…
Your FREEWILL Option

Caution..Warning…if and when you attempt to convince others to doubt or deny according to your doubt or denial…
The consequence is stiff.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Johann]

Get with reality--There is no=i am that i am in the Hebrew written OT. Its mistranslated in trinity translations.

You are mistaken

Va’yomer Elohim el-Moshe, Ehyeh asher Ehyeh; va’yomer, koh tomar li’vnei Yisrael, Ehyeh shelachani aleichem.

Literal Translation
"And God said to Moses, 'I will be what I will be.' And He said, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: "I will be has sent me to you."'"

Syntax Analysis
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh):

This is the first-person singular imperfect form of the verb hayah (הָיָה), meaning "to be" or "to become."

The imperfect tense in Hebrew conveys an action that is ongoing, incomplete, or in the future, thus "I will be" or "I am becoming."

The verb emphasizes God's self-existence and dynamic being, not a static "I am."
אֲשֶׁר (Asher):

This is a relative pronoun meaning "that," "which," or "who."
It links the two occurrences of Ehyeh, creating the phrase Ehyeh asher Ehyeh, often rendered as "I will be what I will be."
וַיֹּאמֶר (Va’yomer):

A waw-consecutive imperfect verb form meaning "and He said."
It introduces God's direct speech to Moses.
כֹּה תֹאמַר (Koh tomar):

Koh means "thus," and tomar is the second-person singular imperfect form of "to say."
This phrase instructs Moses on what to communicate to Israel.
שְׁלָחַנִי (Shelachani):

From the root shalach (שָׁלַח), meaning "to send."
It is in the perfect tense with a pronominal suffix (-ni), meaning "has sent me."
אֲלֵיכֶם (Aleichem):

A preposition (el, "to") with a second-person masculine plural suffix, meaning "to you."
Why "I Am That I Am" Is Debated

Traditional Translation ("I Am That I Am"):

The rendering "I Am That I Am" derives from the Greek Septuagint (ego eimi ho on, Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν), which uses the present tense "I am."

The Latin Vulgate followed this with "Ego sum qui sum," influencing many English translations.

More Accurate Translation ("I Will Be What I Will Be"):

The Hebrew imperfect form Ehyeh is more naturally translated as "I will be," reflecting God’s ongoing and unfolding nature.
This interpretation aligns with the dynamic and relational aspects of God’s self-revelation, emphasizing His faithfulness and presence.

The Hebrew phrase Ehyeh asher Ehyeh is best understood as "I will be what I will be," reflecting God's eternal and self-sustaining nature rather than a static "I am that I am." This avoids mistranslations influenced by later theological biases and adheres more closely to the syntax and meaning of the original Hebrew text.

J.

 

[Keiw]

You certainly can Be unsure, Or Deny the Father, Son, Holy Spirit…is the ONE Lord God Almighty…
IS: the heavenly All Powerful , All knowing, All present, Creator and Maker ONE God…
Your FREEWILL Option

Caution..Warning…if and when you attempt to convince others to doubt or deny according to your doubt or denial…
The consequence is stiff.

Glory to God,
Taken

The Abrahamic God Israel served=YHWH or YHVH=Jehovah a single being God= 100% FACT.
See Johanns post 565

 

[Keiw]

You are mistaken

Va’yomer Elohim el-Moshe, Ehyeh asher Ehyeh; va’yomer, koh tomar li’vnei Yisrael, Ehyeh shelachani aleichem.

Literal Translation
"And God said to Moses, 'I will be what I will be.' And He said, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: "I will be has sent me to you."'"

Syntax Analysis
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh):

This is the first-person singular imperfect form of the verb hayah (הָיָה), meaning "to be" or "to become."

The imperfect tense in Hebrew conveys an action that is ongoing, incomplete, or in the future, thus "I will be" or "I am becoming."

The verb emphasizes God's self-existence and dynamic being, not a static "I am."
אֲשֶׁר (Asher):

This is a relative pronoun meaning "that," "which," or "who."
It links the two occurrences of Ehyeh, creating the phrase Ehyeh asher Ehyeh, often rendered as "I will be what I will be."
וַיֹּאמֶר (Va’yomer):

A waw-consecutive imperfect verb form meaning "and He said."
It introduces God's direct speech to Moses.
כֹּה תֹאמַר (Koh tomar):

Koh means "thus," and tomar is the second-person singular imperfect form of "to say."
This phrase instructs Moses on what to communicate to Israel.
שְׁלָחַנִי (Shelachani):

From the root shalach (שָׁלַח), meaning "to send."
It is in the perfect tense with a pronominal suffix (-ni), meaning "has sent me."
אֲלֵיכֶם (Aleichem):

A preposition (el, "to") with a second-person masculine plural suffix, meaning "to you."
Why "I Am That I Am" Is Debated

Traditional Translation ("I Am That I Am"):

The rendering "I Am That I Am" derives from the Greek Septuagint (ego eimi ho on, Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν), which uses the present tense "I am."

The Latin Vulgate followed this with "Ego sum qui sum," influencing many English translations.

More Accurate Translation ("I Will Be What I Will Be"):

The Hebrew imperfect form Ehyeh is more naturally translated as "I will be," reflecting God’s ongoing and unfolding nature.
This interpretation aligns with the dynamic and relational aspects of God’s self-revelation, emphasizing His faithfulness and presence.

The Hebrew phrase Ehyeh asher Ehyeh is best understood as "I will be what I will be," reflecting God's eternal and self-sustaining nature rather than a static "I am that I am." This avoids mistranslations influenced by later theological biases and adheres more closely to the syntax and meaning of the original Hebrew text.

J.

Trinitarians won't believe truth.

 

[face2face]

So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.

What do you think motivated Jesus to refer to His Father as the only One who is good?

 

[Taken]

The Abrahamic God Israel served=YHWH or YHVH=Jehovah a single being God= 100% FACT.
See Johanns post 565

Uh huh, as I said The the Lord God Almighty IS: ONE God!

The Lord God Almighty IS His own God.


Same as Ex-President Trump, Donald, Mr Trump, CEO Trump, The Donald, Donald John Trump, IS ONE man and was his own President, and Shall again be his own President.


John 3:
[12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[David in NJ]

What do you think motivated Jesus to refer to His Father as the only One who is good?

GOSPEL = His FATHER is Echad Elohim the SON is Echad Elohim the HOLY SPIRIT is Echad Elohim
GENESIS = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness
GOSPEL = In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God

Even a child can count to THREE

 

[Keiw]

Uh huh, as I said The the Lord God Almighty IS: ONE God!

The Lord God Almighty IS His own God.


Same as Ex-President Trump, Donald, Mr Trump, CEO Trump, The Donald, Donald John Trump, IS ONE man and was his own President, and Shall again be his own President.


John 3:
[12] If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Glory to God,
Taken

Jesus is Gods son, not God.

 

[Taken]

Jesus is Gods son, not God.

Jesus WAS Called, MANY, Names. Titles, Descriptions.

Jesus WAS, IS, DID, MAKES, DOES, ACCOMPLISHED, ACCOMPLISHES
THAT WHICH “ONLY” APPLIES TO GOD.

Jesus WAS, IS Revealed, IS God.

“When you say…”

Jesus is Gods son, not God.

You stated a Truth and wrap it in your False Carnal Narative.

Which “Reveals”, Your Spiritual Understanding…is Lacking…and your Teaching Ability …Is elementary…
And wholly unsuitable to debate another WHO has surpassed the elementary introduction of WHO Jesus IS.

You SHOULD have LEARNED, TRUSTED, BELIEVED, SPEAK…the WHOLE TRUTH…
Regarding GODS “TRUTH”… who “HAS”always been, with, in, is God, called numerous names and titles and descriptions, throughout History.

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Keiw]

Jesus WAS Called, MANY, Names. Titles, Descriptions.

Jesus WAS, IS, DID, MAKES, DOES, ACCOMPLISHED, ACCOMPLISHES
THAT WHICH “ONLY” APPLIES TO GOD.

Jesus WAS, IS Revealed, IS God.

“When you say…”



You stated a Truth and wrap it in your False Carnal Narative.

Which “Reveals”, Your Spiritual Understanding…is Lacking…and your Teaching Ability …Is elementary…
And wholly unsuitable to debate another WHO has surpassed the elementary introduction of WHO Jesus IS.

You SHOULD have LEARNED, TRUSTED, BELIEVED, SPEAK…the WHOLE TRUTH…
Regarding GODS “TRUTH”… who “HAS”always been, with, in, is God, called numerous names and titles and descriptions, throughout History.

Glory to God,
Taken

Jesus is never called Almighty God, nor sovereign Lord. He is Gods image, that is how one can see the Father in him. The Father is the only true God Jesus said. Why won't you believe him?

 

[face2face]

GOSPEL = His FATHER is Echad Elohim the SON is Echad Elohim the HOLY SPIRIT is Echad Elohim
GENESIS = Let Us make man in Our image according to Our likeness
GOSPEL = In the beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and the Word was God

Even a child can count to THREE

You didn't answer the question.

Why did Jesus who you believe is God accept "good teacher?"

Have a go...it won't hurt

 

[Taken]

Jesus is never called Almighty God, nor sovereign Lord.

Gods Word was not Always called Jesus!

I would gander you were not always called “Keiw”.

The Father is the only true God Jesus said. Why won't you believe him?

I do believe Jesus…He is Gods Truth….
And said…
“I and MY father ARE ONE”
“he that hath seen me hath seen the Father”

The End is NEAR…but not Yet manifested for YOU to understand, because In the END, then you will SEE…and THEN Understand what you reject to believe, until you CAN see it.

Not a mysterious phenomenon…
The Son becomes THE Father…
Just as God revealed to ISAIAH centuries ago!

Isa 9:
…The mighty God, The everlasting Father…

Why do you not believe Gods OWN approved Word?

…“blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed”…

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[Taken]

You didn't answer the question.

Why did Jesus who you believe is God accept "good teacher?"

Have a go...it won't hurt

John 10: (Jesus speaking)
[11] “I am the good shepherd…”

Luke 18: (Jesus speaking)
[19] …”none is good, save one, that is, God.”

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[face2face]

John 10: (Jesus speaking)
[11] “I am the good shepherd…”

Luke 18: (Jesus speaking)
[19] …”none is good, save one, that is, God.”

Glory to God,
Taken

Why did Jesus not accept being called Good?

Note: this is a leading question one which hopes it will lead you into truth and not away from it.

F2F

 

[Verily]

You are mistaken

Va’yomer Elohim el-Moshe, Ehyeh asher Ehyeh; va’yomer, koh tomar li’vnei Yisrael, Ehyeh shelachani aleichem.

Literal Translation
"And God said to Moses, 'I will be what I will be.' And He said, 'Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: "I will be has sent me to you."'"

Syntax Analysis
אֶהְיֶה (Ehyeh):

This is the first-person singular imperfect form of the verb hayah (הָיָה), meaning "to be" or "to become."

The imperfect tense in Hebrew conveys an action that is ongoing, incomplete, or in the future, thus "I will be" or "I am becoming."

The verb emphasizes God's self-existence and dynamic being, not a static "I am."
אֲשֶׁר (Asher):

This is a relative pronoun meaning "that," "which," or "who."
It links the two occurrences of Ehyeh, creating the phrase Ehyeh asher Ehyeh, often rendered as "I will be what I will be."
וַיֹּאמֶר (Va’yomer):

A waw-consecutive imperfect verb form meaning "and He said."
It introduces God's direct speech to Moses.
כֹּה תֹאמַר (Koh tomar):

Koh means "thus," and tomar is the second-person singular imperfect form of "to say."
This phrase instructs Moses on what to communicate to Israel.
שְׁלָחַנִי (Shelachani):

From the root shalach (שָׁלַח), meaning "to send."
It is in the perfect tense with a pronominal suffix (-ni), meaning "has sent me."
אֲלֵיכֶם (Aleichem):

A preposition (el, "to") with a second-person masculine plural suffix, meaning "to you."
Why "I Am That I Am" Is Debated

Traditional Translation ("I Am That I Am"):

The rendering "I Am That I Am" derives from the Greek Septuagint (ego eimi ho on, Ἐγώ εἰμι ὁ ὤν), which uses the present tense "I am."

Do Paul's Johann

"I Am What I Am"

 

[Magdala]

Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

Yes? Please offer Scriptural Quote.

Glory to God,
Taken

Moses said to God that the children of Israel will ask the name of the one who sent him, then asked what name shall he tell them: Καὶ εἶπεν ὁ Θεὸς πρὸς Μωυσῆν, λέγων, ἐγώ (I) εἰμι (exist) ὃ "Qu: καὶ εἶπεν, οὕτως ἐρεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς Ἰσραὴλ, ὁ Ὧν 15 ἀπέσταλκέ με πρὸς ὑμᾶς. Kal εἶπεν ὃ Θεὸς πάλιν πρὸς Μωυσῆν, οὕτως ἐρεῖς τοῖς υἱοῖς ᾿Ισραὴλ, Κύριος ὃ Θεὸς τῶν πατέρων ἡμῶν, Θεὸς ᾿Αβραὰμ, καὶ Θεὸς ᾿Ισαὰις, καὶ Θεὸς Ἰακὼβ, ἀπέσταλκέ με πρὸς ὑμᾶς: τοῦτό μου ἐστὶν ὄνομα αἰώ" (Septuagint, Ex. 3:14-15)

"And God spoke to Moses, saying, l AM THE BEING; and he said, Thus shall ye say to the children of Israel, THE BEING has sent me to you. And God said again to Moses, thus shalt thou say to the sons of Israel, the Lord God of our fathers, the God of Abraham, and God of Isaac, and God of Jacob, has sent me to you: this is My name for ever, and my memorial to generations of generations" (English translation from The Tanakh, Ex. 3:14-15).

Fast-forward to the scene of Jn. 8:58, where Jesus claimed to be eternal and to have existed before Abraham, but more importantly, He called himself by the ancient title ascribed only to God Himself: "...πρὶν (before) Ἀβραὰμ (Abraham) γενέσθαι ἐγὼ (I) εἰμί (AM)." The Pharisees knew exactly what Jesus meant by this. From their perspective, Jesus said specifically, “I am God.” How do we know this was their interpretation of His words? We know it from their reaction. They responded by attempting to stone Jesus for having claimed to be God (an act of blasphemy they considered worthy of death): "ἦραν (picked) οὖν λίθους (stones) ἵνα (to) βάλωσιν (throw) ἐπ' (at) αὐτόν (him): Ἰησοῦς δὲ ἐκρύβη καὶ ἐξῆλθεν ἐκ τοῦ ἱεροῦ." (Jn. 8:59)

 

[Taken]

Why did Jesus not accept being called Good?

That is a false narrative.

Jesus did not reject being called Good.

Jesus simply asked a question.

Note: this is a leading question one which hopes it will lead you into truth and not away from it.

I am confidant I have the Truth, and His Power IN me, that it is not possible for me to be lead away from the Truth

Glory to God,
Taken