Who said anything about confessing Denial of belief?
Who said anything about being one to encourage fear?
What is the ERROR you accuse?
So? Do you know 7 billion people?
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Who said anything about confessing Denial of belief?
Who said anything about being one to encourage fear?
What is the ERROR you accuse?
So? Do you know 7 billion people?
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Wrangler
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Hello @David in NJ,
I just listen to what Jesus taught and stated, concerning worshipping his Father in spirit and truth. All the other work around with the trinity and what not are things I simply do not buy into. If you believe what I am stating wrong, you can just say I am wrong that would be good enough for me. I do my best to explain my position from just looking at what is stated concerning the Word of God. To me scripture has to balanced out like weights on a scale to come to some type of understanding, and not just one one-sided view.
David in NJ
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Good Morning @MatthewG,
Psalm 37:7
7 - Rest in the LORD, and wait patiently for Him; Do not fret because of him who prospers in his way,
Because of the man who brings wicked schemes to pass.
Can you SEE now ???
Hello @David in NJ,
Good morning. Yahavah is amazing, and I'm thankful for the Lord Yeshua and what has been done for the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
Good morning. Yahavah is amazing, and I'm thankful for the Lord Yeshua and what has been done for the whole world.
2 Corinthians 5:19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation.
2Co_5:19 "God was in Christ" This is the main issue of Christianity. Was God (i.e., the God, the OT YHWH), in Jesus of Nazareth, reconciling the world to Himself (cf. Gal_1:3-4)? If so, Christianity is true; if not, it is false.
Is Jesus truly the fullness of God (cf. Joh_1:1-14; Col_1:15-16; Php_2:6-11; Heb_1:2-3)? Is He truly the only way to reconciliation and forgiveness (cf. Joh_14:6)? If so, then the gospel is the most important information that people will ever hear! We must tell the truth; we must preach the gospel; we must lift up Christ; we must offer a free salvation to a lost world.
J.
Hello @Johann,
I personally do not believe that is the main issue of Christianity. I believe that the issue is with faith and love. That of course is subjectively seen as an issue personally by me. God being in the Messiah is something faithfully believed. I believe that the Word of God was within the body of Christ, and that Yahavah desired to reconcile the world to himself through the Messiah, with Jesus having made the choice to die on behalf of his fathers will and behalf of the whole world for all of their sins. How much a person may know about the Father and the Son is subjective, what matters in the end is faith and love. At least in my opinion.
David in NJ
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AMEN
"God was in Christ" = Keep this in your heart and never doubt
Now Watch this:
John 17:1-5
When Jesus had spoken these things, He lifted up His eyes to heaven and said, “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son may glorify You. For You granted Him authority over all people, so that He may give eternal life to all those You have given Him.
Now this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent.
I have glorified You on earth by accomplishing the work You gave Me to do.
And now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with the glory I had with You before the world existed.
Romans 8:9
"But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you.
(And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.)"
Colossians 1:27 - "Christ in you the Hope of Glory"
David in NJ
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Faith and love MUST have a UPward direction, for many on this earth have 'faith and love' but it cannot save them.
If "faith and love" is the measure of "good works" , then you must ask yourself - 'Whose measure is this and where did it come from?'
JESUS is the WAY the TRUTH and the LIFE = Could this be the measure of "faith and love"???
Consider this:
Jesus said to him, “‘You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’
This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like it: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’
On these two commandments hang all the Law and the Prophets.”
Hello @David in NJ,
The reason for these are based on a few scriptures.
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
Hebrews 11:6 KJV
A choice to diligently seek after God.
I’m of the opinion people can be given the Holy Spirit even if they do no know Jesus. Meaning every single thing about him, those in disposition and even those who are born into other faith based religions, I believe a Mormon can put faith in the living God just as much as Muslim, a Hindu, or a Bahai’. And God writes on their hearts and minds and they will ultimately love God and love others and find out who it was who helped them do such. As people who read the Bible we come to find out it is by and through the spirit of Christ in which one is able to do such; therefore he gets the credit and not ourselves. I believe those in other religions who truly seek for God in faith are blessed and they are humbled knowing it’s only by him they are able to love fully because they themselves by the flesh can not.
While the above may not conform to what many people say in religious circles; I still maintain to anyone that I teach it’s always these things which matter.
1 John 3:
“And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.”
1 John 3:23 KJV
While my statements are far from Orthodox, is it to far a field to suggest every group that is out there in a religious circles that there is no individual who faithfully looks to the God above all other gods?
Thank you for reading and considering. I know I don’t fit into religious circles nor am I affiliated with anything religious except a school that I like founded at www.cult.love, many people read that and they are like “oh my gosh he is in a cult!” It does stand for Christian Ultra-Libertarians for Truth (CULT). But anyway these are just my opinions; that are typically nullified when people are so hardwired to consider that everyone that doesn’t know Jesus and everything about him are completely lost. We don’t know the heart of an atheist, a Muslim, a Mormon, there are so many religious circles that also proclaim the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
This is why I find love to be a valid reason and point to understanding of mercy, forgiveness, peace, allowing people to think for themselves and not demand anything from any person.
Love is always looked down as less than though by many, even scoffed upon.
The reason for these are based on a few scriptures.
“But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”
Hebrews 11:6 KJV
A choice to diligently seek after God.
I’m of the opinion people can be given the Holy Spirit even if they do no know Jesus. Meaning every single thing about him, those in disposition and even those who are born into other faith based religions, I believe a Mormon can put faith in the living God just as much as Muslim, a Hindu, or a Bahai’. And God writes on their hearts and minds and they will ultimately love God and love others and find out who it was who helped them do such. As people who read the Bible we come to find out it is by and through the spirit of Christ in which one is able to do such; therefore he gets the credit and not ourselves. I believe those in other religions who truly seek for God in faith are blessed and they are humbled knowing it’s only by him they are able to love fully because they themselves by the flesh can not.
While the above may not conform to what many people say in religious circles; I still maintain to anyone that I teach it’s always these things which matter.
1 John 3:
“And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.”
1 John 3:23 KJV
While my statements are far from Orthodox, is it to far a field to suggest every group that is out there in a religious circles that there is no individual who faithfully looks to the God above all other gods?
Thank you for reading and considering. I know I don’t fit into religious circles nor am I affiliated with anything religious except a school that I like founded at www.cult.love, many people read that and they are like “oh my gosh he is in a cult!” It does stand for Christian Ultra-Libertarians for Truth (CULT). But anyway these are just my opinions; that are typically nullified when people are so hardwired to consider that everyone that doesn’t know Jesus and everything about him are completely lost. We don’t know the heart of an atheist, a Muslim, a Mormon, there are so many religious circles that also proclaim the death, burial and resurrection of Christ.
This is why I find love to be a valid reason and point to understanding of mercy, forgiveness, peace, allowing people to think for themselves and not demand anything from any person.
Love is always looked down as less than though by many, even scoffed upon.
David in NJ
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Scripture that declares this please!!!
Scripture Please!!!
Scripture Please!!!
Scripture Please!!!
Who performed the nullification???
Hello @David in NJ,
I don't always have to include scripture to make my case.
Many people worship the Bible way too much to believe that Yahavah is actually able to reach people in different places on earth, writing his law on the hearts and minds of people who seek him. It is after all, the spirit of Christ we live by. And it is God who gives it to people. And those who of his; love.
David in NJ
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When "your case" is pertaining to Salvation = you absolutely must so that you can avoid being deceived and become a false prophet,
with a false message.
For this is what JESUS taught and commanded us.
SEE - For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that everyone who believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.
Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe has already been condemned, because he has not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son.
He is propagating some form of universalism @David in NJ. I tend to avoid those NOT using the Scriptures.
J.
Hello @David in NJ,
Salvation has been made available to all people, and Yahavah speaks through his creation itself, and people out there can say to themselves "there must be someone that is higher than me, who is true, and is good, and is loving." If you want me to gather that scripture for you I can. Yahavah also writes on the minds/consciousness of people as well. He speaks to people through the "Law" which leads to Christ. He speaks to people through "Jesus."
Salvation has been made available to all people, and Yahavah speaks through his creation itself, and people out there can say to themselves "there must be someone that is higher than me, who is true, and is good, and is loving." If you want me to gather that scripture for you I can. Yahavah also writes on the minds/consciousness of people as well. He speaks to people through the "Law" which leads to Christ. He speaks to people through "Jesus."
David in NJ
Well-Known Member
100% TRUTH and Salvation is a PERSON = the LORD Jesus Christ = John chapters 1 thru 3
100% TRUTH
Romans 1:20 - "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood from His workmanship, so that men are without excuse."
100% TRUTH
Galatians 3:24 - "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith."
100% TRUTH
John 5:24 - Truly, truly, I tell you, whoever hears My word and believes Him who sent Me has eternal life and will not come under judgment.
Indeed, he has crossed over from death to life.
Hello @David in NJ,
He is also seen by
Pslams 19:1 The heavens proclaim the glory of God. The skies display his craftsmanship.
He is also seen by
Pslams 19:1 The heavens proclaim the glory of God. The skies display his craftsmanship.
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