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Lizbeth

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I suggest you do the same,Sister.

The word of God...to his Born Again Children....those who have been birthed in the Spirit.

1 John 3:9
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Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.

New King James Version
Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.

American Standard Version
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.

Berean Study Bible
Anyone born of God refuses to practice sin, because God’s seed abides in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Whosoever is born of God, commmitteth not sin: for his seed abideth in him, and he can not sin, because he is born of God.

English Revised Version
Whosoever is begotten of God doeth no sin, because his seed abideth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is begotten of God.
Just put aside the wider aspect of the topic for the minute and read those scrips about the Lord's supper for yourself, sister. They are simply not talking about what Behold is saying they are. He's trying to make them fit his doctrine rather than just taking them for what they are simply saying. It's sin in itself to gobble down the bread and wine of the Lord's supper as food to satiate the flesh (unworthily) rather than for the purpose Jesus instituted it for.
 
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I rarely use the terms " brother & sister" ! If I do, then it is how I feel toward those I believe to be of the family of God; those who hold to the truth of the scripts and are like-minded in the faith.

Just because this is called a "christian" site does NOT make all attendees such !
 

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You are to examine yourself to make certain your Faith is in Christ.... and has not slipped into "self righteousness".
Once again you are putting your OWN SPIN on what the Bible actually says. So we should say "Behold the Spin Doctor!" There is absolutely nothing in 1 Corinthians 11 about "self righteousness" (your own invention). And that is because you have consistently refused to acknowledge that the Bible says that Christians can and do sin and must deal with their present sins. Therefore Paul admonishes the Corinthians (and all Christians) to examine themselves before partaking of the Lord's Supper. Self-examination means dealing with present sins.
 

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Colossians 2:13-14 NLT​

You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross.

Colossians 2:13-14​

King James Version​

13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

Colossians 2-6:15

Alive in Christ

6 hTherefore, as you received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk in him, 7 irooted and jbuilt up in him and kestablished in the faith, just las you were taught, abounding min thanksgiving.

8 See to it that no one takes you captive by nphilosophy and oempty deceit, according to phuman tradition, according to the qelemental spirits1 of the world, and not according to Christ. 9 For rin him the whole fullness of deity dwells sbodily, 10 and tyou have been filled in him, who is uthe head of all rule and authority. 11 In him also vyou were circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, by wputting off the body of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ, 12 xhaving been buried with him in baptism, in which yyou were also raised with him through faith in zthe powerful working of God, zwho raised him from the dead. 13 aAnd you, who were dead in your trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God bmade alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, 14 by ccanceling dthe record of debt that stood against us with its legal demands. This he set aside, nailing it to the cross. 15 wHe disarmed the rulers and authorities2 and eput them to open shame, by ftriumphing over them in him




Having forgiven us...ALL our sin....past, present, future........SIN .....Jesus has ALL of my Sin....nailed it to the cross.

Slaves to Righteousness​

15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under the law but under grace? By no means! 16 Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin,which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness? 17 But thanks be to God that, though you used to be slaves to sin, you have come to obey from your heart the pattern of teaching that has now claimed your allegiance. 18 You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.

19 I am using an example from everyday life because of your human limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to righteousness leading to holiness.20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the control of righteousness. 21 What benefit did you reap at that time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things result in death! 22 But now that you have been set free from sin and have become slaves of God, the benefit you reap leads to holiness, and the result is eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in[b] Christ Jesus our Lord.
 
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We were not "Pre-destined" to be elected. We were pre-destined to be CONFORMED, into the image of Christ.

What is "pre-determined" in the Fore-Knowledge of God, is that the born again are pre-determined to be conformed into the Image of Christ.

That's what is "pre-determined" to happen to the elect.

The Born again Spirit that is "in Christ" down here, that is in a body that is going to the grave, is going to be changed into the image of Christ up there, and that is pre-destined" to happen to the Elect.

God's Fore-Knowledge SAW this about every believer, (Elect), before they were born., as its "pre-destined" to happen. We WILL BE CONFORMED into the Image of Christ.
Kind of strawman stuff, but that's alright.
 

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I encourage you and Ritajanice to just read the scripture as written and let it speak to you, rather than letting you trying to insert your doctrine into it, which it isn't saying.

Never take Communion not realizing that the Body and Blood of Jesus has made you Righteous.
To do so is to not discern the Lord's SACRIFICE for your SIN (Body), and you dont want to do that.
 

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Just put aside the wider aspect of the topic for the minute and read those scrips about the Lord's supper

Do not take communion if you do not Discern that the Lord's Body (Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross) always makes you worthy to take it.
 

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Once again you are putting your OWN SPIN on what the Bible actually says. So we should say "Behold the Spin Doctor!" There is absolutely nothing in 1 Corinthians 11 about "self righteousness" (your own invention).

I appreciate your opinion.

But, im not interested in "old theology" that is created by Legalsim, 150 yrs ago, that you believe.
 
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Just because this is called a "christian" site does NOT make all attendees such !
Amen! In my 10 + years as a member of multiple Christian forum sites I have quickly learned that there are genuine Christians and there are "nominal/pseudo" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers and it may not always be so easy to tell them apart at first.
 
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Do not take communion if you do not Discern that the Lord's Body (Sacrifice of Jesus on the Cross) always makes you worthy to take it.
Except unfortunately those believers who took/take of it UNworthily and were/are sick or falling asleep. And how do we know they were/are born again believers...? Because they were/are "falling asleep" rather than dying.

We are to remember His sacrifice and discern His body for our SINS, with a penitent and grateful heart.
 

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We are to remember His sacrifice and discern His body for our SINS, with a penitent and grateful heart.


If a believer does not understand that The Cross of Christ, has taken care of their Sin, then they will Take Communion, "Not discerning the Sacrifice of Christ" (His Body), so, in that case they are taking it "unworthily".
 
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If a believer does not understand that The Cross of Christ, has taken care of their Sin, then they will Take Communion, "Not discerning the Sacrifice of Christ" (His Body), so, in that case they are taking it "unworthily".
Except that is not what those scriptures say without ADDING anything to them. Those folks were being greedy and gobbling down all the free food which was supposed to be a shared love feast and the Lord's supper while selfishly leaving their poor brothers/sisters to go hungry while not discerning the Lord's body and blood in the bread and wine (they were treating what is holy as common/profane, which scripture says not to do). AKA they were clearly sinning. That's what those passages of scripture are actually telling us.

It just doesn't happen to be a teaching about why Jesus died and what He has accomplished for us and trying to MAKE it talk about what it isn't addressing is just plain ERROR born out of self-interest. Done and dusted, I leave you to the Lord.
 
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Except that is not what those scriptures say without ADDING anything to them.

You are teaching a very old man made theology, that is literally the reverse understanding of "not discerning the Lord's Body".

See, you are confessing sin, that Jesus dealt with 2000 yrs ago, and you dont realize it.
So, that is why you approach the Communion as a sinner, needing to confess.... instead of as a Christian, who has become "The Righteousness of God, in Christ".
 
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Amen! In my 10 + years as a member of multiple Christian forum sites I have quickly learned that there are genuine Christians and there are "nominal/pseudo" Christians. There are genuine believers and there are make believers and it may not always be so easy to tell them apart at first.
Amen, brother.
Its when they persist by their own interpretation &.then continually deny the truth presented by the word of God that they are recognized !

I have less patience in my many yrs too on forums; I give them a chance then it's ignore!
 
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But, im not interested in "old theology" that is created by Legalsim, 150 yrs ago, that you believe.
Making a FALSE ACCUSATION against sound Bible doctrine and calling it "Legalism" is not only silly but it is a sin. It is also self-righteousness. You have manufactured your own theology and you will give account for twisting Bible truth.
 
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You are teaching people how to avoid the cross....as your OP states.

Actually the Thread defines Legalists...

As THEY teach, how to avoid the Cross.

Its explained and defined right here in the Thread.

Let me paraphrase the Thread's Title.

"Denying the Cross How THEY do it".