Defending Homosexuality

[Reggie Belafonte]

Like I said the SCRIPTURES, which are inspired by God, meaning this is what God is saying, those who practice all forms of sexual immorality, which include homosexuality will be some among mankind who will not inherit God's kingdom. God isn't going to change his word for anyone. He wasn't wrong and isn't wrong for saying those who practice all forms of sexual immorality will not inherit his kingdom. Anyone who has a problem with that, has a problem with The True God and anyone who has a problem with The True God, well that's all we need to know about people who have a problem with The True God.

Anyone who supports Sodomites has let in a demon to be able in controlling them and this maybe due to the trend of the times giving such power over them. so what happens is that such gives power to such a demonic beast.

When one looks into the world of the so called Gays, you will see levels of depravity starting from 0 to 10 say on a scale, now the world of demon possessed count all at the same level, so level 1 is the lowest depravity and 10 the highest. and level 1 is displayed for all to see on TV Schools etc but level 10 is hidden from all and claimed not to exist.
Level 1 is just a person who is lost and can turn back from such depravity but from 5 onwards will not because such a one is totally possessed.

I have a mate that was always regarded as a boy type he could not handle manly things say, he would not dehorn his cattle just for one point say as an example, now he got married 2x and then gave up on women, I feel that he gets real catty and can't leave things alone and he will just rant on and on, he could never let go of an issue and just keep fanning the flames, now he is a nice enough bloke in himself but just lost as to being a man one could say, he has never grown into a man say in the mind truly. he is not in that realm ? I see other men as men and others are only regarded as just boys, because they have never truly matured into becoming a real man. now he has a boy friend and this person I despise because he is a total filth mongering grub he is obnoxious and as Satanic as they come and promotes vengeance as a virtue of his : how pathetic ! no man promotes vengeance in my book.

But what I see of the great Sodomite revival in the world nowadays is totally Satanic and the world will reap what it sows because they have welcomed such with open arms and one can not discriminate and if one can not discriminate one is under domination by something like the works of Satan in fact. the facility of discrimination is to do with intelligence, one has to have the ability to discriminate between what is false or a lie or the ability to run a business or a Capitan of such a Ship, if you could not discriminate one would not be worthy of that position. This type of Discriminating has noting to do with Prejudice, as that is another thing entirely but the Political Correct Socialist work to bastardise such nowadays claiming that discrimination and prejudice go hand in hand as the same thing, Well thats a total lie !
So I wonder why is it that the Socialist play that card, well it's because under Socialism all are subject to the government who owns them all and all are only just a number to the system, so you have no control over the government at all as that was lost, just as it was in Nazi Germany and all Communist Nations.

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

We nowadays are being controlled like dumb cattle, you do not have a voice anymore because the Satanist Socialist have worked to undermine Freedom of Speech and have played the cards, stacking them like a casino does against all, so one card tossed out makes a god to be idolised so who ever offends this god, makes a monster out of anyone who offends such a god, it's the god of offence in the defence of what they claim or call Human rights ? they make up the laws of what is a Human right, is it anything to do with Jesus Christ, No not at all ! but It empowers depravity, because it's a mans works, the works of Man ! and such is devoid of God and the Holy Spirit, but such does display a smoke and mirrors act claiming to be God to the gullible.
The Human rights Mob nowadays claims Abortions all the way up to 9 months old of a healthy Baby, but oh if the Baby has a deformity or much worse well then they will force a woman to have such against their will, she has no rights then, but if healthy baby on a whim to abort all is fine with them. that's what is called Human rights, on just one point where they are coming from. it starts to look even more like the Talmud madness the more one looks into all such if you can bother or stomach looking more and more in depth into such things, the more you will see such madness is totally Satanic. but but but it all sounds so good and empowering on TV or how the schools peddle such dribble on our children, so they can not see it for what it truly is in fact, it's the same cards that were at play in Nazi Germany or any Communist Nation to dupe the people, they control the game and anyone who shines a light on the reality of all this madness is dealt with and as their power grows so does the way that they deal with any who try to expose them, they all become enemy's of the State and are dealt with.

Under Christianity it never supported Sodomy for 2000 years until now that it promotes such ? such is not Christianity at all.
Satan comes across as an Angle of Light and as such dupes people into supporting and promoting nonsense, Satan is a really nice bloke he lets you do whatever you want to and will not offend your Sinful pride.
We come across so called Christians who claim that we are all sinners and to just bath in it. they promote Christ as the vehicle to carry there Sins and never truly bother to repent of their Sins or look past that, because such serves their ego. but what truly serves this is Satan. because they are not truly born again of the Holy Spirit in fact, or they could see past that dead works program.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

We nowadays are being controlled like dumb cattle, you do not have a voice anymore because the Satanist Socialist have worked to undermine Freedom of Speech and have played the cards, stacking them like a casino does against all, so one card tossed out makes a god to be idolised so who ever offends this god, makes a monster out of anyone who offends such a god, it's the god of offence in the defence of what they claim or call Human rights ? they make up the laws of what is a Human right, is it anything to do with Jesus Christ, No not at all ! but It empowers depravity, because it's a mans works, the works of Man ! and such is devoid of God and the Holy Spirit, but such does display a smoke and mirrors act claiming to be God to the gullible.
The Human rights Mob nowadays claims Abortions all the way up to 9 months old of a healthy Baby, but oh if the Baby has a deformity or much worse well then they will force a woman to have such against their will, she has no rights then, but if healthy baby on a whim to abort all is fine with them. that's what is called Human rights, on just one point where they are coming from. it starts to look even more like the Talmud madness the more one looks into all such if you can bother or stomach looking more and more in depth into such things, the more you will see such madness is totally Satanic. but but but it all sounds so good and empowering on TV or how the schools peddle such dribble on our children, so they can not see it for what it truly is in fact, it's the same cards that were at play in Nazi Germany or any Communist Nation to dupe the people, they control the game and anyone who shines a light on the reality of all this madness is dealt with and as their power grows so does the way that they deal with any who try to expose them, they all become enemy's of the State and are dealt with.

Under Christianity it never supported Sodomy for 2000 years until now that it promotes such ? such is not Christianity at all.
Satan comes across as an Angle of Light and as such dupes people into supporting and promoting nonsense, Satan is a really nice bloke he lets you do whatever you want to and will not offend your Sinful pride.
We come across so called Christians who claim that we are all sinners and to just bath in it. they promote Christ as the vehicle to carry there Sins and never truly bother to repent of their Sins or look past that, because such serves their ego. but what truly serves this is Satan. because they are not truly born again of the Holy Spirit in fact, or they could see past that dead works program.

We have to understand that the world we're living in today, is the wicked world of mankind that has Satan as it's God. So yes things are going to get worse as time goes on. What is actually good and Holy belonging to the True God will be thought of as belonging to Satan and therefore unholy and evil or bad. What will be good will be said to be bad and What is bad will be thought to be good. The scriptures told us this would happen. Those who are true servants of The True God must stand their ground and be loyal to The True God first and foremost.
We must understand also that the world of wicked mankind, because it's ruled by Satan, will say and do the worst to the True servants of The True God. Jesus told those that follow him would be treated badly and thought badly of because he was, meaning Jesus was treated and thought of badly. Remember the Pharisees and Sadacees said Jesus was a demon who was ruler of the demons. They made up false stories and lied about him. The True servants of The True God will not be treated any differently than him.

 

[aspen]

Allowing it to exist without prejudice is not supporting it

 

[mjrhealth]

Like I said the SCRIPTURES, which are inspired by God, meaning this is what God is saying, those who practice all forms of sexual immorality, which include homosexuality will be some among mankind who will not inherit God's kingdom. God isn't going to change his word for anyone. He wasn't wrong and isn't wrong for saying those who practice all forms of sexual immorality will not inherit his kingdom. Anyone who has a problem with that, has a problem with The True God and anyone who has a problem with The True God, well that's all we need to know about people who have a problem with The True God.

Christians who call themseves, his bride do this everday when they join themselves to the harlot church, mens religions, they fo not all have a choice you do,

 

[Paul Christensen]

With the exponential rise of defenders of homosexuality in the world, I cannot help but wonder how it is that many who claim to be of the Christian community can defend this lifestyle so fervently. I suppose I will never be able to understand why anyone who claims to be a Christian can feel comfortable defending that which God has condemned.

After reading a few posts which tend to be a bit negative I just can't help injecting a bit of humour into the thread, just to lighten the mood.

There was a gay guy who had done a line with every eligible male he knew, but not to his doctor yet. So he went to his doctor complaining of painful haemorrhoids. So he got onto the doctor's examination bed, and the doctor got his instrument out and looked up to see what was what. He exclaimed, "Good grief, there's a bunch of flowers up here!" The patient replied, "Read the card! Read the card!"

 

[mjrhealth]

Do we choose to be born male or female,
do peole born with dfect, cojoined, missing limbs, heart problems, have a choice?

no we dont and that is ok BUT,

the moment anyone is born male with female hormones or female with male hormones, where thee body is at complete odd with there brain, its all of a sudden, there fault according to so many christians, they chose to be born that way.

As I said before you shoudl all be so thankfull you where all born "perfect".

Than on judgement day, when Christ stands to judge them, and HE asks, where are your accusers, they will turn and point to you all, and say, there Jesus there they stand the ones that call themselves by your name.
And the devil will laugh and say, see Jesus even they agree with me that these are all sinners, and you all take the side of the accuser, and tell God His creation is an abomination.

So blind

 

[DPMartin]

With the exponential rise of defenders of homosexuality in the world, I cannot help but wonder how it is that many who claim to be of the Christian community can defend this lifestyle so fervently. I suppose I will never be able to understand why anyone who claims to be a Christian can feel comfortable defending that which God has condemned.

that would be because they claim to be or call themselves Christian when they weren't called in the first place. those who would trust and believe what the Lord God says are the one's that are called, not those who seek justification to do and believe something contrary to God's Judgements.

therefore for what ever reasons in their own hearts they call themselves as thou they are entitled to be Christians. thing is, no one calls themselves to the Lord's table, except the Lord and those He choses that are faithful.

 

[Willie T]

So much sad hatred for people Jesus would reach out to.... and told us to do that FOR Him.

 

[Dcopymope]

So much sad hatred for people Jesus would reach out to.... and told us to do that FOR Him.

If a homosexual asked you what he needed to do to be saved, what would you tell him? Recent studies have concluded that there isn't a gay gene, so they can no longer use this excuse of them allegedly being born that way. So I'd just tell them to stop letting demons whisper such thoughts in your head, bring all your thoughts, your imaginations under Gods captivity, believe and come to repentance, simple.

(2 Corinthians 10:3-6) "For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: {4} (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds {5} Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ; {6} And having in a readiness to revenge all disobedience, when your obedience is fulfilled."

Link: No ‘gay gene’: Massive study homes in on genetic basis of human sexuality

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Allowing it to exist without prejudice is not supporting it

Yes it is !
Tell that to God as to why he destroyed Sodom, God must of been wrong ?

Tell that to the two Angles who had to deal with such people, remember that, because that's is what the world is heading towards, it will come down to the same, if you are not a sodomite you are or will be prayed on by the Sodomites, it's a fact that such people love nothing better to do than corrupt others, as that is winning to them, they are just like vampires.

Talk to any gay person and you find that they are clearly under the power of Satan.

Not to mention such a person can not enter into the Kingdom of God let alone Heaven, because by there works they truly smite God, they are a curse to God.

 

[mjrhealth]

they can no longer use this excuse of them allegedly being born that way

So you have no excuse than for your ignorance, because there is not an ignorance gene either..

 

[Dcopymope]

So you have no excuse than for your ignorance, because there is not an ignorance gene either..

..............There is a word for this type of vitriol you know, when a person has nothing useful to say against the validity of another's arguments. Its no wonder, why I ghosted this cesspit before. Starting to wonder why I came back.

 

[mjrhealth]

..............There is a word for this type of vitriol you know, when a person has nothing useful to say against the validity of another's arguments. Its no wonder, why I ghosted this cesspit before. Starting to wonder why I came back.

Because you are so ignorant, did you choose to be born the way you are, does any one choose to be born male female, yet because you think you have the "right:" to judge them based on your ignorance so you do and so judgement will fall on you as you have judged them.

Like I said, they have not yet found a gene that makes a man ignorant, what is your excuse.

 

[Dcopymope]

Because you are so ignorant, did you choose to be born the way you are, does any one choose to be born male female, yet because you think you have the "right:" to judge them based on your ignorance so you do and so judgement will fall on you as you have judged them.

Like I said, they have not yet found a gene that makes a man ignorant, what is your excuse.

......If you were in a court of law, would you be running your fat, haughty, arrogant mouth about how the judge has no right to judge you like you do with people here behind the comfort and safety of your personal computer? I'm willing to bet money your lips would be zipped, air tight. You are clearly bloated, go to the toilet and let all that hot air out, you're full of it. Maybe then we can have an intelligent conversation like mature adults.

 

[mjrhealth]

......If you were in a court of law, would you be running your fat, haughty, arrogant mouth about how the judge has no right to judge you like you do with people here behind the comfort and safety of your personal computer? I'm willing to bet money your lips would be zipped, air tight. You are clearly bloated, go to the toilet and let all that hot air out, you're full of it. Maybe then we can have an intelligent conversation like mature adults.

Ill put it as Christ put it,

Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

What excuse are you going to have before God, but God the bible says....

Or is it, dont look at me God they are worse than me...

Ignorance,

This isnt about defending homosexuality its about defending the innocent, made guilty by the judgement of ignorant men,

As you judge so shall you be judged. think carefully....

 

[Paul Christensen]

If a homosexual asked you what he needed to do to be saved, what would you tell him? Recent studies have concluded that there isn't a gay gene, so they can no longer use this excuse of them allegedly being born that way. So I'd just tell them to stop letting demons whisper such thoughts in your head, bring all your thoughts, your imaginations under Gods captivity, believe and come to repentance, simple.

The message would be the same as for any person: "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved" (Acts 16:31). If we tell someone, "You have to give up [whatever sinful habit pattern that exists in the person] before you can be saved, that is essentially preaching a different gospel than the one Paul preached.

The principle is to get the person saved by God's grace through faith in Christ first, and then leave it up to the Holy Spirit to work sanctification in them. If genuine conversion to Christ takes place, then things will change, and the sinful habit patterns will fall away as sanctification develops. This means that as sanctification develops, the fornicator will no longer practice fornication, the thief will no longer steal, the murderer will no long murder people, the blasphemer will no longer blaspheme, and the homosexual will no longer practice homosexual acts.

It is a powerful testimony to the power of the Holy Spirit to totally transform a person, that Saul the implacable Pharisee whose intent to rid Israel and the regions around from every single Christian believer, and was so entrenched in his judaism that he would never intend to change, and was actually on his way to Damascus to arrest as many Christians as he could, was instantly and totally transformed on the spot the instant that the bright light of the presence of the glorified Christ shone on and around him.

Therefore if someone like Saul, who became Paul, could be transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit so that instantly he became a totally different person, then anyone can.

So, it is not homosexuality in a person that is the problem, but it is the fact that the person is unsaved with that particular sinful habit pattern, and there is the distinct potential for any unsaved person with sinful habit patterns to be instantly and totally transformed when they become genuinely converted to Christ.

The problem is that the devil has such a grip on the mental attitude of a homosexual and those who support the practice, that he has deceived them into believing that they are born with it, or have a specific gay gene, and therefore cannot help being what they are and cannot change. This is a total lie that keeps these ones in bondage until the Holy Spirit reveals the truth and does the work of transformation in them.

 

[Dcopymope]

Ill put it as Christ put it,

Joh 8:15 Ye judge after the flesh; I judge no man.
Joh 8:16 And yet if I judge, my judgment is true: for I am not alone, but I and the Father that sent me.

What excuse are you going to have before God, but God the bible says....

Or is it, dont look at me God they are worse than me...

Ignorance,

This isnt about defending homosexuality its about defending the innocent, made guilty by the judgement of ignorant men,

As you judge so shall you be judged. think carefully....

, You clearly have no understanding of how "judgement" works as it relates to what you claim to believe in. When a Christian spreads the gospel message to unbeliever's, it isn't the christian that convicts the unbeliever of his sin, it is the holy spirit that convicts. So like I said, go sit on the toilet, and let all that hot air out.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Some Sins are punishable by death we see in the OT, so not all Sins are of the same value you know, not to mention that Jesus did not come to abolish the Law, not one iota of it, but to fulfil it. so they are in grave Sin and such can not enter into the Kingdom of God, because they can not enter because they are a curse, not to mention that they will can not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven, because they are going to Hell.

The Sin nature does condemn you, so why just sit back and abide in such, that's what you are peddling there.
One must take Jesus as your Lord and Saviour, abiding in him only. as that's the way of Salvation, the way that you propose is the wide Gate. Jesus is about a narrow Gate.

When it comes to the sin which leads to death. All sins are on equal terms

When it comes to sins which affect people and society. Some sins cause greater harm.

Thats why God imposed certain punishments for certain sins.

I think we all can agree a white lie is nt as harmful as murder.

Yet james said if we keep all the law. Yet stumble in one point. We are guilty. And under the curse.

The person who says the white lie and the person who murders, if those are the ONLY sin each one has done their whole life. Both would stand condemned, apart from Grace. And both would be cast to the eternal fire.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

By the way,

A homosexual has no power to break the bond of his sin, any more than a heterosexual persons who is living with his or her significant other.

They need led to christ with the gospel. Not judged or condemned

Jesus said I did not come to judge he came to save. There is a former homosexual person in my church who is now a leader. He said what helped him was not being judged. But led to christ with love and sincerity. Knowing we all are sinners. And he was not pointed out.

After coming to christ, The HS led him to realise how his sin was damaging him and those around him, and God him to repent.

No sinner is going to repent of a sin or stop it if you go after them by judging them. You would think after 4000 years of religion judging the sinner and demanding they turn or else. Failing to turn these people to christ. We would learn

Sadly, we have not.