Defending Homosexuality

[lforrest]

Leave the world then my brother
they are all, all, all of them serving God my friend, same as you.

The Unitarians share their beliefs with the Lucifarians. This is where bending to popular opinion will leave you, right on the devil's doorstep. So all do serve, some are serving as examples of failure.

Everyone I have seen try to justify the sin of Homosexuality pushes their agenda zealously. How many other sins do people actively seek to promote? These are a few examples:

Revelation 21:8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—they will be consigned to the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.

The cowardly, as promoted in the emaciated culture.
The unbelieving, such as the Atheists who will not be pleased until no one believes in God.
The vile and murders, such as in gangs.
The sexually immoral, such as the homosexuals who want their sin to be socially accepted.
Those who practice magic arts, like the witches coming together to try and curse Kavanaugh.
Idolaters, anyone who read the bible knows how pervasive that is.

Luke 17 Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come. 2 It would be better for them to be thrown into the sea with a millstone tied around their neck than to cause one of these little ones to stumble. 3 So watch yourselves.​

 

[Reggie Belafonte]

Homosexuals do not encourage Sodomite behaviour at all.
You are unable to point to even one example. They don't believe in it either.
They prefer just one person, for life, as God intended for happiness and growth.

You must have it wrong, you are talking about Pansy's not homosexuals in that case.
I know of Pansy's who fear anything sexual, they may look up to other men in adoration but that does not mean that they are homosexuals at all, but some can be homosexuals but not all are in fact.

Remember that show with that actor Frank Spencer bloke, what's he ? not saying he is typical but something along the lines of one.

How about Dr Who the 2ed Doctor and the 3rd Doctor, now what did the 1st Dr say about them two, one he claimed was a Dandy and the other a Clown I think, it was in The 3 Doctors with Omega back in 1973. so a Dandy is some what a Pansy sort of or a Pansy would admire a Dandy, but that does not mean such is a homosexual at all.

But under the so called banner of the all encompassing word Gay, a Dandy, Pansy all could be classed as under the same roof of the definition Gay. but Homosexual Poofter etc etc is as well under the same roof of definition as Gay but clearly this is much a different classification in it's self.

 

[Stranger]

The passage you cited describes behavior, and not Same-Sex compatibility.

The act of homosexuality is an abomination to God worthy of death. To be a queer would be no less than the act. It is great perversion.

Stranger

 

[Soverign Grace]

Matthew 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

I agree totally with love, that was my point three, Jesus commanded us to love even our enemies and pray for them.

Matthew 9:10 And it came to pass, as Jesus sat at meat in the house, behold, many publicans and sinners came and sat down with him and his disciples.
Matthew 9:11 And when the Pharisees saw it, they said unto his disciples, Why eateth your Master with publicans and sinners?
Matthew 9:12 But when Jesus heard that, he said unto them, They that be whole need not a physician, but they that are sick.
Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

Just because you acknowledge someone as a "publican" or non-Christian does not mean you condemn them, above loving even your enemies, Jesus Commands us to try to help the sinner. The Christian does not need to find God, since they already have God, but those God sends us out to help are mostly the non-believers and those living in sin so they can come to repentance. My only point in previous post was in reply to the thread, not to act like those living in willful sin are still Christians, they are not but we can still try and help them come to repentance when they are ready.

I agree with you. I have a guy friend who is a gay leftist but he's the most caring man I know. I can't understand - it's been something that has puzzled me: he doesn't have God's Spirit but yet he's nicer than some Christians I know. I don't understand it.

My daughter-in-laws brother is gay and I've known him since he was a boy. I suspect that sometimes very hurtful things happen to people that may turn them that way. He was a very sensitive boy and he wrote poetry one time that was very touching. The boys who lived next to him used to beat him up all the time. I think that did something to his psyche.

His parents are Christians yet they fell into the lie of him being born that way. I tried to tell them to have him go into counseling and they got angry and it caused problems. I saw that even when your heart is in the right place that you'll get attacked. So they let him go that way. Now when he comes over I go up to him and hug him and try to show him as much love as I can and he really responds to me. He's a nice young man - one of the nicest ones I've known. At the right time if I see him I'll give him a salvation booklet and maybe God will use that.

I don't know the right thing in this but that's how I handle it. I think people get caught in Satan's lies - the illuminati are pushing the gay agenda - they're pushing it in public schools. I read that a library held story time by a man in drag: I think Christians should oppose that since children should not be introduced to that. I never follow Hollywood but flipped on some show that talks about what's going on with actors and actresses. It was eye-opening: each one got before the camera and gushed about the LBGQT agenda. I saw where it's promoted as the "in" thing to do. The illuminati and their master Lucifer has been pushing it just like he's pushed drugs and every other sinful thing. Look at all the young people who idolize stars - they're like the pied pipers. If you read the list of destruction the illuminati have planned you'll see that their agenda is clipping right along.

I don't think the young people today have all that much of a chance - but until Christ ends it I think that love is the only thing that will draw people. Condemnation sure won't. People are drawn to love. I don't like a lot of things going on today but it's renewed my commitment to evangelizing.

 

[Soverign Grace]

For those who may not know any better, defending homosexuality is a rationalization process by which people attempt to normalize deviant choices that cannot be justified through any legitimate psychological exercise. This is simply an attempt to placate a conscience that cannot harmonize the thing one desires and the moral limitations that prohibit the behavior. Homosexuality is not a biological issue; it is a sin issue. It is not socially acceptable behavior, it is a social and moral disgrace. Homosexuality is not an illness nor is it some type of genetic abnormality. Homosexuals are NOT born gay. That argument is nothing more than an attempt to appeal to the scientific community and call them as a witness against the word of God to defend this perverted behavior. Homosexuality is a learned behavior and a matter of choice, not a predilection. There is no "pride" in it, nor should it be afforded any measure of dignity. IT IS SIN, and in the end, it will destroy all who engage in it or stand in its defense. Attempting to explain it away scientifically is nothing more than an attempt to excuse the behavior and marginalize its shame.

I saw the following posted the other day on face book and it is absolutely true. It is a simple matter of facts.
(Roughly quoted from a post on “The Federalist Papers” website, May 28, 2018. Words in bold were added by me.)

1. In a sexual species, there are only two sexes, male and female.
2. 99.93% of humans have either XX or XY sex chromosomes (the rest is mutation).
3. Being one sex but thinking you are another is not a biological issue, it is a psychological disorder.
4. Mandating a widespread enabling of a psychological disorder is a sociopathy.

They push the lie that one is born that way. Who knows what is being taught children in public school now. I've been reading about the takeover of education and Charlotte Iserbyt wrote a book (available to read online for free) that is very shocking and troubling. I urge others to read it.

Illuminati gay agenda: The occultist Illuminati purpose behind the gay agenda in the USA., page 1

Illuminati agenda: The Illuminati Agenda | Illuminati Agenda

 

[Soverign Grace]

Being RC is not a sin.

I know - but those pastors held it against her because she went to a Catholic school with her friends. I've seen so much anti-Christian behavior in church leadership that it's no wonder young people are turned away.

 

[SkyWriting]

The act of homosexuality is an abomination to God worthy of death. To be a queer would be no less than the act. It is great perversion.
Stranger

That is a mistake. The acts of Sodom are not anything most queers are interested in.
They prefer just one sex partner for life, just as God asks.

 

[SkyWriting]

I agree with you. I have a guy friend who is a gay leftist but he's the most caring man I know. I can't understand - it's been something that has puzzled me: he doesn't have God's Spirit but yet he's nicer than some Christians I know. I don't understand it.

My daughter-in-laws brother is gay and I've known him since he was a boy. I suspect that sometimes very hurtful things happen to people that may turn them that way. He was a very sensitive boy and he wrote poetry one time that was very touching. The boys who lived next to him used to beat him up all the time. I think that did something to his psyche.

Thanks. That's what I been saying. Gays are usually the most humble of people. Not every person, but as a group, they are the least assertive people of all. That's why I investigated scripture on "Why scripture is wrong."

It turned out, of course scripture is not wrong. Scripture is referring to Sodomy, or loss of control to lust. Some gays do this, but so did Clinton. And he wasn't gay. But talk about lack of control.

 

[SkyWriting]

They push the lie that one is born that way. Who knows what is being taught children in public school now. I've been reading about the takeover of education and Charlotte Iserbyt wrote a book (available to read online for free) that is very shocking and troubling. I urge others to read it.

Illuminati gay agenda: The occultist Illuminati purpose behind the gay agenda in the USA., page 1

Illuminati agenda: The Illuminati Agenda | Illuminati Agenda

My wife was a career special ed teacher. They are born gay. Or at least with no good opposite sex desire. The gay boys get teased as toddlers.

 

[Soverign Grace]

Thanks. That's what I been saying. Gays are usually the most humble of people. Not every person, but as a group, they are the least assertive people of all. That's why I investigated scripture on "Why scripture is wrong."

It turned out, of course scripture is not wrong. Scripture is referring to Sodomy, or loss of control to lust. Some gays do this, but so did Clinton. And he wasn't gay. But talk about lack of control.

I don't know if that's true across the board - they're just two people that I know who are very nice men. - in fact nicer than some Christians I have known. I don't know why - maybe because they've gone through emotional pain which led them to that lifestyle. It's been proven that when an individual suffers that makes them more generous.

I don't see some of them as being harmless: such as men in drag indoctrinating children, or a child being taught that they can name their gender that day and the rest of us have to go along with the deception. That's very dangerous and I do not support that. We know that Scripture calls it a sin. You can't get around it. I don't know if my way is right, but that's how I see to handle it. Hopefully then when that person is ready you can then lead them to Christ. If we haven't built a bridge to them then we have no hope of reaching them.

 

[Soverign Grace]

My wife was a career special ed teacher. They are born gay. Or at least with no good opposite sex desire. The gay boys get teased as toddlers.

I do not believe that even if your wife has seen it. I've seen this when we were raising our children. I was at a neighbor's house and her son asked for some heart jewelry that was hers. She immediately reprimanded him sharply "Boys DON'T play with puffy hearts!" And she shooed him away. I believe that is one of the ways children get their identities. That was just one of a myriad of ways I saw other mothers handle gender issues.

I also saw the opposite: a young child being effeminized and adults joking about him being gay. They think it's a joke but labeling a child is no joke. That to me is very dangerous. The child is given a "script" and then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are sick adults. I can't tell you the number of sick adults I encountered in the school system when I volunteered. The librarian in our elementary school was likely a real witch; I wasn't the only one who saw it. She had satanic books in an elementary school library. It's worse than people know.

Satan's stock in trade is deception.

 

[Taken]

My wife was a career special ed teacher. They are born gay. Or at least with no good opposite sex desire. The gay boys get teased as toddlers.

They are born gay.

What does that mean?
They are born happy?
Or
They are born desiring sex with their same gender?
Or something else?

The gay boys get teased as toddlers.

What does that mean?
How does a Person decide a Toddler is desiring sex with their same gender?
And then that Toddler is teased, Because they desire sex with their same gender?

What say you?

Glory to God,
Taken

 

[bbyrd009]

Look at the Bible. Being a queer is an abomination before God. (Lev. 20:13) Being a queer is itself a crime.

If that WERE true....then why does it only describe "actions"?

ah you lost me there at "it," could you pls define It ty

Then why does it describe just the behavior?

Ah, never mind then, ty
you rock
but do this one Hillbilly i guess, i'm gonna use cast iron myself,

Look at the Bible. Being a queer is an abomination before God. (Lev. 20:13) Being a queer is itself a crime.

(CLANGCLANGCLANGCLANG)
OOOHHHH Pots and kettles
they rattle together
And i don't know whether (banjo, spoons, jug)
i'm a pot or a kettle...
(CLANGCLANGCLANGCLANG)
too early to sing that one yet tho lol

 

[bbyrd009]

OOOHHH Kettles and pots
we sure got lots
and something something
ya that's all i got

 

[bbyrd009]

Stupid question. It describes a queer. A queer is an abomination before God.

Stranger

them multi-colored jackets drive you nuts, huh

 

[bbyrd009]

Fact is that the game play has only been ramped up and the cancer will be more prevalent than ever, just that it will be covered up much better now and with all the changes to the Laws now, with the empowering of Sodomites rights and all, this will help much in promoting such depravity.
We can see that the Satanist are going to great lengths in working to bastardise our children in schools promoting depravity with what they call 'safe schools programs' that the mum and dads of the children know bugger all about and have no rights at all to stop their child from being exposed to such filth and no rights to question such programs at all, just like Nazi Germany was ! such programs were created by people who have been busted for being pedos as well, not to mention are Cultural Marxist peddling Political Correctness Socialist dribble and that anyone who stands up to this mob of Satanist are treated in much the same way the Hitler's Nazis and the Communist dealt with people, not to mention that as such got more power the more extreme they became against anyone who opposed anything that they did and the same is on the cards with us now.

Listen mate depravity is Sin and the wagers of Sin is death, not only that but pox pestilence and hellfire.

No one could be so stupid to encourage any Sodomite behaviour at all and all that do are going to Hell, because that's where they are leading others, so you know who their master is, as Jesus said, of their Father of lies who were murders from the beginning.

Got any dollars in your pocket bac RB?
lol

 

[bbyrd009]

Homosexuals do not encourage Sodomite behaviour at all.
You are unable to point to even one example. They don't believe in it either.
They prefer just one person, for life, as God intended for happiness and growth.

ok plenty of hedonists there too i guess, k. But you get free meth! Woo-hoo!

 

[bbyrd009]

Of course. What would be attractive about someone who has the same "equipment" that you have yourself? Ugh!

the fact that they are not different i guess.
"As above, so below" right
prolly can't um make heads nor tails of that though huh

let's let Republicans drive for us then narf

 

[bbyrd009]

No more than I could feel attracted to a goat.

I love goats, herded them for a summer
no, wait



SHEEP LIE!
lol

Well, I'll leave you to those who want to act as silly as you. I'm going to shower and hit the hay.

zing!
huh?

 

[bbyrd009]

Everyone I have seen try to justify the sin of Homosexuality pushes their agenda zealously. How many other sins do people actively seek to promote?

I find this um unfair in the extreme elf, the Pharisees prayers always seem to be the starters for these?
Or at least i can say that i have no desire to justify homosexuals at all here ok.
Nor attack homospirituals, for that matter, sacks to cracks, files and rows,
and evabody knows, right elf?

Might even defend a Pharisees today, dunno. Rather not.