DECONSTRUCTION - How far is too far?

[Lambano]

I disagree. Deconstruction is a technical term used by modern philosophers to raise doubt about the validity of the Christian faith.

Which "Christian faith"? Catholicism? Evangelicalism? Methodism? Calvinism?

Deconstruction is a philosophical and literary analysis that questions the fundamental conceptual distinctions in Western philosophy through a close examination of the language and logic of philosophical and literary texts. It is a way of breaking down or analyzing something to discover its true significance. Deconstruction is used to understand how something was created, usually things like art, books, poems and other writing. It looks at the smaller parts that were used to create an object, which are usually ideas. According to this theory, a piece of writing does not have just one meaning and the meaning depends on the reader. - Britannica

I have to point out that the "Deconstruction" process is utilized by people who already have doubts about the validity of certain doctrines taught by their faith tradition.

 

[St. SteVen]

I have to point out that the "Deconstruction" process is utilized by people who already have doubts about the validity of certain doctrines taught by their faith tradition.

Right.
The questions (doubts) are the catalyst.

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[CadyandZoe]

Which "Christian faith"? Catholicism? Evangelicalism? Methodism? Calvinism?

Deconstruction is a philosophical and literary analysis that questions the fundamental conceptual distinctions in Western philosophy through a close examination of the language and logic of philosophical and literary texts. It is a way of breaking down or analyzing something to discover its true significance. Deconstruction is used to understand how something was created, usually things like art, books, poems and other writing. It looks at the smaller parts that were used to create an object, which are usually ideas. According to this theory, a piece of writing does not have just one meaning and the meaning depends on the reader. - Britannica

I have to point out that the "Deconstruction" process is utilized by people who already have doubts about the validity of certain doctrines taught by their faith tradition.

Contrary to popular belief, one can question their religion without questioning their faith. Jesus didn't come to start a new religion, he came to bring light to God's truth and that will never change.

 

[lforrest]

There is an extent to which deconstruction is helpful. It is helpful to understand our presuppositions and from where they were derived. It is also helpful to understand the origins of the presuppositions of others to better understand their errors.

Accept that the word of God is true as originally written, and for the most part as translated.

Challenge our presuppositions and the presuppositions we adopted with the word. Challenge them also with the testimonies of others.

There are no contradictions in perfect understanding. Consider it as a distant target and we attempt to improve our aim.

 

[APAK]

@Lambano
Every renovation project begins with demolition of what needs to be replaced.
You have to blast before you can build.

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...blasting before you (re)build.....again, and again

Like having to rebuild and re-tweak yourself, over and over again, into your ever-changing self-image of God. Sounds like a case of severe insecurity, of the mind and the heart.

 

[APAK]

From the OP.

The question is: Deconstruction; how far is too far?
- Should we NEVER question our faith?
- Are reasonable questions with biblical answers okay?
- Is it okay to ask the really tough questions?
- Are there questions that would offend our brothers and sisters of the faith?
- Should we be concerned about easily offend folks when we need answers?
- What sort of questions are out-of-bounds for a Christian to ask?
- Should a Christian pull away from church to seek answers?
- Should a Christian leave church all together if they can no longer cope?

Let's discuss.

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From post #123
DECONSTRUCTION is about re-evaluating our religious upbringing.
Long before this term emerged, Catholics were converting to Protestantism, and vice versa.
In fact, a person coming to Christ in this life deconstructs from their previous life.
DECONSTRUCTION is not the enemy, except to those who uphold tribalism loyalties.

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This video is a promotion of humanism. A training video of how to lose one's new fragile Christianity quickly, by 'deconstruction' and reaffirming or re-establishing your own carnal self image of God.

I wonder if she cherished this so-called deconstruction process and experience over being a genuine Christian. I guess it's the former as she seems to be proud not be a Christian today, to be another another lost soul in the sea of universalism (her new acquired coach and new community).

She never experienced being a genuine believer in Christ judging and listening closely to her words and voice tone and mannerisms.

 

[Brakelite]

I think this idea that some are unwilling to be saved is false.
It's not salvation that is being refused.

It is Christ Himself, whose name is the only name by which man can be saved, who will be refused. "We will not have this man to reign over us".

 

[CadyandZoe]

I think this idea that some are unwilling to be saved is false.
It's not salvation that is being refused.

Is the "free gift" of salvation really free? - Honestly?

This is the evangelical bait-and-switch. Where's the ethics in that? Should people be tricked into the kingdom? Do we lead someone to Christ and then cut them loose? Nope. They need to be discipled, right? So we pile on the expectations. - Daily Bible reading and prayer. - Regular church...

www.christianityboard.com

--- PARODY ---

Person #1: Receive the free gift of eternal life.
Person #2: No thanks.
Person #1: I said it was free.
Person #2: There must be some strings attached.
Person #1: Well, of course.
Person #2: It's not a free gift then, right?
Person #1: You had better take it... or else!
Person #2: Say what?
Person #1: Otherwise you will be incinerated!
Person #2: What sort of free gift is that?

Indeed.

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Your parody is faulty because it doesn't adequately describe the actual exchange.

Person 2 is standing on the roof of a house that is surrounded by flood waters.

Salvation:
Person 1 -- reach out your hand so I can save you.
Person 2 -- Okay. [reaches out his hand]

Damnation:
Person 1 -- reach out your hand so I can save you.
Person 2 -- How do I know I can trust YOU? I will wait for someone else to come along.

 

[St. SteVen]

Your parody is faulty because it doesn't adequately describe the actual exchange.

That depends on who you ask.
Many believers have rejected the church.
And for good reason.

--- PARODY ---

Person #1: Receive the free gift of eternal life.
Person #2: No thanks.
Person #1: I said it was free.
Person #2: There must be some strings attached.
Person #1: Well, of course.
Person #2: It's not a free gift then, right?
Person #1: You had better take it... or else!
Person #2: Say what?
Person #1: Otherwise you will be incinerated!
Person #2: What sort of free gift is that?

Indeed.

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[Jericho]

The question is: Deconstruction; how far is too far?
- Should we NEVER question our faith?

If you question your faith, is it really faith anymore? There are some things that are unknowable, unprovable, and can only be accepted on faith. We all "choose" to put our faith in something, believer and unbeliever alike.

Asking questions is one thing, but if asking questions causes you to lose your faith, then it has gone too far. I would add there is a difference between asking questions and deconstruction, which takes a hypercritical ax to something.

DECONSTRUCTION is about re-evaluating our religious upbringing.
Long before this term emerged, Catholics were converting to Protestantism, and vice versa.
In fact, a person coming to Christ in this life deconstructs from their previous life.
DECONSTRUCTION is not the enemy, except to those who uphold tribalism loyalties.

I would disagree. Deconstructivism is a more modern movement, born out of postmodernism, which embraces the idea of subjective truth and is antithetical to Christianity. Oftentimes, deconstructivism has been used as a weapon against Western/Christian traditions. Although, you could say the serpent in the Garden of Eden employed the first use of deconstructivism when he asked Eve, "“Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?” That little question/challenge destroyed their relationship with God. I would argue that modern deconstructivism seeks to do the same thing.

 

[marks]

That depends on who you ask.
Many believers have rejected the church.
And for good reason.

--- PARODY ---

Person #1: Receive the free gift of eternal life.
Person #2: No thanks.
Person #1: I said it was free.
Person #2: There must be some strings attached.
Person #1: Well, of course.
Person #2: It's not a free gift then, right?
Person #1: You had better take it... or else!
Person #2: Say what?
Person #1: Otherwise you will be incinerated!
Person #2: What sort of free gift is that?

Indeed.

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Dog in a manger.

:-(

 

[St. SteVen]

I would argue that modern deconstructivism seeks to do the same thing.

Most deconstructionists that I know HAVE left the faith. But it was a process.
At some point they crossed a line.

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[quietthinker]

Most deconstructionists that I know HAVE left the faith. But it was a process.
At some point they crossed a line.

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Deconstruction of value requires a 'compass'
I am a sailor. Go offshore with no compass or a faulty compass or not know how to use your compass and you stand a high chance of being lost or shipwrecked.

 

[St. SteVen]

Deconstruction of value requires a 'compass'
I am a sailor. Go offshore with no compass or a faulty compass or not know how to use your compass and you stand a high chance of being lost or shipwrecked.

I emailed a good pastor friend with my concerns.
I told him that at my present trajectory I would probably be an atheist in five years or less.
I said that atheism was really just an over-reaction to the questioning.
That was very freeing and reassuring to me. I retained my faith and my questions.
WIN/WIN. (I think) - LOL

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[amigo de christo]

Most deconstructionists that I know HAVE left the faith. But it was a process.
At some point they crossed a line.

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When, by grace i first learned of deconstruction i KNEW it was always about JUST THAT .
THEY were slick buddy .
You see they came in with partial truths
like certain denominational teachings were the problem
As i myself have long said the same .
BUT THEY went about to take people out of the bible
WHEREAS i said WE NEED TOBE IN the BIBLE so that these wacked out denonimnations
wont no longer seduce and decieve us all .
THEY were slick . I SEEN the deadly deadly dangers in this FROM THE GET GO .
AND i knew this was where it leads too . OH you gonna see far worse things it will lead too as well .
You all are being and have been being programmed by very wise decieving folks my friend .
SO allow me some parting words . GET IN THE BIBLE FOR YOUR OWN SELF and STOP TRUSTING IN MEN .

 

[amigo de christo]

Your parody is faulty because it doesn't adequately describe the actual exchange.

Person 2 is standing on the roof of a house that is surrounded by flood waters.

Salvation:
Person 1 -- reach out your hand so I can save you.
Person 2 -- Okay. [reaches out his hand]

Damnation:
Person 1 -- reach out your hand so I can save you.
Person 2 -- How do I know I can trust YOU? I will wait for someone else to come along.

My people perish from lack of knowledge .
Deconstruction as a lie FROM the day it crept into churches .
IT came in under the guise that it was about correcting certain denominational teachings
and yet in truth it was all about getting folks to NOT TRUST in the SCRIPS
but rather in wise sounding clever folks who see truth as relative only
and it liguify truth so as they can remold it into a LIE .
A lie that all denominations and religoins can merge and have common ground as one under .
We see that lie already in action and at work .
But as always satan will quoate a truth to support his lie .
For he and his men will say GOD IS LOVE
and yet imply because HE IS LOVE all will be fine so long as they just pratice
the golden rule . THE ONLY problem with that
is To BELEIVE ON HE who gave us the golden rule , THEY HAVE DENIED .
Yet make the cliam that all religoins and humanity do and can perform the golden rule .
IMPOSSIBLE . because what is the FIRST RULE . TO LOVE THE LORD THY GOD with all your heart , soul , mind
ANYONE who rejects JESUS THE CHRIST , DOES NOT HAVE THE LOVE OF GOD at all within them .
FOR HAD THEY LOVED GOD , FRIEND THEY WOULD HAVE LOVED JESUS THE CHRIST for HECAME forth of GOD .
WE are being lied too . LIED TOO by a very very clever and highly subtile creature
that was first mentioned IN GENSIS and was in the garden . sadly folks sure seem to love his verison of love too .
What they wont love is the damnation that shall come upon them ON THE DAY OF THE ONE TRUE GOD and OF HIS CHRIST
whom THEY ALL DENIED by a beetles john lennon ressurected love
which sang ALL YA NEED IS LOVE, da da da da da , AND The love they danced too WAS OF THE WORLD , NOT GOD .

 

[Marvelloustime]

My people perish from lack of knowledge .
Deconstruction as a lie FROM the day it crept into churches .
IT came in under the guise that it was about correcting certain denominational teachings
and yet in truth it was all about getting folks to NOT TRUST in the SCRIPS
but rather in wise sounding clever folks who see truth as relative only
and it liguify truth so as they can remold it into a LIE .
A lie that all denominations and religoins can merge and have common ground as one under .
We see that lie already in action and at work .
But as always satan will quoate a truth to support his lie .
For he and his men will say GOD IS LOVE
and yet imply because HE IS LOVE all will be fine so long as they just pratice
the golden rule . THE ONLY problem with that
is To BELEIVE ON HE who gave us the golden rule , THEY HAVE DENIED .
Yet make the cliam that all religoins and humanity do and can perform the golden rule .
IMPOSSIBLE . because what is the FIRST RULE . TO LOVE THE LORD THY GOD with all your heart , soul , mind
ANYONE who rejects JESUS THE CHRIST , DOES NOT HAVE THE LOVE OF GOD at all within them .
FOR HAD THEY LOVED GOD , FRIEND THEY WOULD HAVE LOVED JESUS THE CHRIST for HECAME forth of GOD .
WE are being lied too . LIED TOO by a very very clever and highly subtile creature
that was first mentioned IN GENSIS and was in the garden . sadly folks sure seem to love his verison of love too .
What they wont love is the damnation that shall come upon them ON THE DAY OF THE ONE TRUE GOD and OF HIS CHRIST
whom THEY ALL DENIED by a beetles john lennon ressurected love
which sang ALL YA NEED IS LOVE, da da da da da , AND The love they danced too WAS OF THE WORLD , NOT GOD .

@amigo de christo