Daniels 70-Weeks Timeline

[Ronald Nolette]

Do you acknowledge that Jesus rules or reigns over the kings of the earth as Revelation 1:5 says He does? That verse calls Him a prince. Yet you deny that He rules over the kings of the earth now, do you not? So, you gave the impression that He is not ruling over the kings of the earth as a prince. Yet, He is. So, don't blame me for your lack of communication skills. I can't help how you come across.

Yes Jesus is ruler over the kings of the earth. Only the few English versions define "archon" as prince. Archon is not translated as Prince in any other greek writings. Also the vast majority of English translations, including some of the first call Jesus ruler. Prince in Greek is "archegos" not archon unless the archon is known to be a prince. Jesus is now King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

YOu wish to make an argument over what a few english translators did that is not found anywhere else.

LOL. Keep acting like you are a grammar expert if you want, but we all know otherwise.

Expert? No! but do I consult the experts? Absdolutely! But I notice that you like yor comapdre refuses to defend why prince is the most accurate translation of REv. 1:5

BTW have you decided to recant about lying saying I never said jesus was a prince? Or will you keep ignoring that.

Either way, that happened long ago. Why do you think it's talking about some future Antichrist having anything to do with that?

YOu really don't know? why are you even bothering to argue here then?

Daniel was prophesying about physical events with physical people on planet earth.

Why did you refer to God in lowercase? Also, there is plenty of allegory in scripture, so why do you act as if it's a bad thing? But, again, either way you interpret it, it happened long ago, so there's no basis for interpreting the prince of Daniel 9:26 to be some future Antichrist. That is how you interpret it, isn't it?

Yes there is allegory in Scripture and Scripture shows it. That does not give you a license to go ahead and allegorize any scripture you want to defend covenant theology.

You haven't shown anything. He is both a prince and a ruler, so how do you know He can't be the prince/ruler mentioned in Daniel 9:26?

How do I know? Because I went to school, learned the rules of grammar and learned how to read, and how to apply rules of grammar. that is how I know. In case you never learned, God created language both spoken and written and created the rules of grammar so we can learn to speak and write in an intelligble way.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

That is obviously wrong and the worst interpretation of a verse imaginable. To attribute a verse about Christ to an Antichrist instead is as bad as it gets.

Well as Enoch is not attributing a verse describing Jesus to the antichrist- your compqalint is as inane as it is irrelavent. redefining Scripture as it is written is a grave offense before god. You need to beware!

 

[The Light]

The "prince that shall come" in Daniel is NOT Christ but the Antichrist. That is obvious on the face of it.

I don't believe the prince that shall come is THE Antichrist. I think the prince that shall come is the rider on the white horse who is AN Antichrist. The prince that shall come is the 7th king and the Antichrist is the 8th king.

Also since the Bible clearly identifies who the Antichrist is, I don't think his people will destroy the temple.

 

[Enoch111]

That is because you read with a knowledge of Grammar. Covenantal theology followers tend not to.

When people allow themselves to be BRAINWASHED, there is no remedy. Brainwashing is a powerful spiritual and psychological tool. All the cults use it. But following manmade doctrines is exactly the same thing.

 

[covenantee]

Yes Jesus is ruler over the kings of the earth. Only the few English versions define "archon" as prince. Archon is not translated as Prince in any other greek writings. Also the vast majority of English translations, including some of the first call Jesus ruler. Prince in Greek is "archegos" not archon unless the archon is known to be a prince. Jesus is now King of Kings and Lord of Lords!

YOu wish to make an argument over what a few english translators did that is not found anywhere else.


Expert? No! but do I consult the experts? Absdolutely! But I notice that you like yor comapdre refuses to defend why prince is the most accurate translation of REv. 1:5

BTW have you decided to recant about lying saying I never said jesus was a prince? Or will you keep ignoring that.


YOu really don't know? why are you even bothering to argue here then?

Daniel was prophesying about physical events with physical people on planet earth.



Yes there is allegory in Scripture and Scripture shows it. That does not give you a license to go ahead and allegorize any scripture you want to defend covenant theology.



How do I know? Because I went to school, learned the rules of grammar and learned how to read, and how to apply rules of grammar. that is how I know. In case you never learned, God created language both spoken and written and created the rules of grammar so we can learn to speak and write in an intelligble way.

Readers will notice the impeccable grammar in the quoted post.:)

 

[covenantee]

But I notice that you like yor comapdre refuses to defend why prince is the most accurate translation of REv. 1:5

There's no blindness like df blindness.

Post 241 is staring you in the face.

 

[covenantee]

How do I know? Because I went to school, learned the rules of grammar and learned how to read, and how to apply rules of grammar. that is how I know. In case you never learned, God created language both spoken and written and created the rules of grammar so we can learn to speak and write in an intelligble way.

So why don't you apply them? Your grammar is unarguably the worst on this forum. What's your excuse? You've obviously grossly overpaid for those degrees that you claim to have. Where did you purchase them?

 

[covenantee]

When people allow themselves to be BRAINWASHED, there is no remedy. Brainwashing is a powerful spiritual and psychological tool. All the cults use it. But following manmade doctrines is exactly the same thing.

There's no brainwashing like df brainwashing. Its hallucinatory psychosis is the object of continuous unparalleled astonishment in the worlds of clinical psychology and psychiatry.

Its practitioners are indeed a chosen people.

But not by God.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

When people allow themselves to be BRAINWASHED, there is no remedy. Brainwashing is a powerful spiritual and psychological tool. All the cults use it. But following manmade doctrines is exactly the same thing.

It is sad that when they cannot make real arguments, they resort to teh usual ad-hominem attacks and vague sweet sounding sentimental mush.

To covenant believers facts are things to hold to only when it fits the false narrative that began with the Roman Church and popularized by Augustine.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

On the contrary, to attribute the evil doings of the Antichrist to Christ is worse. See Matthew 24:15.

I'm glad I'm not doing that. I believe that you have to be completely lacking in spiritual discernment in order to not recognize that Daniel 9:27 is talking about Christ confirming the new covenant with His sacrifice and offering which resulted in the virtual end of the old covenant animal sacrifices and offerings.

 

[The Light]

I'm glad I'm not doing that. I believe that you have to be completely lacking in spiritual discernment in order to not recognize that Daniel 9:27 is talking about Christ confirming the new covenant with His sacrifice and offering which resulted in the virtual end of the old covenant animal sacrifices and offerings.

Can you tell me what denomination teaches this?

 

[Cassandra]

Readers will notice the impeccable grammar in the quoted post.:)

Hey, do you have to knock how he writes? Could you read it? Sometimes we mess up when we are typing too fast, and/or we are thinking about other things. Could be angry, too. Lots of typos made in anger--I've done it.
You don't know what is going on in his life. I'm elderly, and it takes me ages to type something. If I have a pressing matter, and have to type fast, you can take it to the bank that my post is going to be a mess.

If you can grasp what he is saying, then he is communicating just fine.

 

[covenantee]

Can you tell me what denomination teaches this?

Merely the historic orthodox Christian Church for 17 centuries.

John Calvin
"The angel now continues his discourse concerning Christ by saying, he should confirm the treaty with many for one week This clause answers to the former, in which Christ is called a Leader. Christ took upon him the character of a leader, or assumed the kingly office, when he promulgated the grace of God. This is the confirmation of the covenant of which the angel now speaks. As we have already stated, the legal expiation of other ritual ceremonies which God designed to confer on the fathers is contrasted with the blessings derived from Christ; and we now gather the same idea from the phrase, the confirmation of the covenant...
Now, therefore, we understand why the angel says, Christ should confirm the covenant for one week, and why that week was placed last in order. In this week will he confirm the covenant with many."

Reformed, Methodist, Presbyterian, Wesleyan, Church of Christ, Church of God (Anderson Indiana), Nazarene, Primitive Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, Puritan.

 

[Cassandra]

Can you tell me what denomination teaches this?

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"
Middle of the 70 week.
Seventh day Adventist church does.

 

[covenantee]

Hey, do you have to knock how he writes? Could you read it? Sometimes we mess up when we are typing too fast, and/or we are thinking about other things. Could be angry, too. Lots of typos made in anger--I've done it.
You don't know what is going on in his life. I'm elderly, and it takes me ages to type something. If I have a pressing matter, and have to type fast, you can take it to the bank that my post is going to be a mess.

If you can grasp what he is saying, then he is communicating just fine.

There are countless others who face challenges equal to and greater than his, but whose grammar is acceptable or exemplary.

His is abysmal, yet he proclaims his grammatical superiority.

It is beyond absurd.

 

[The Light]

Merely the historic orthodox Christian Church for 17 centuries.

John Calvin
"The angel now continues his discourse concerning Christ by saying, he should confirm the treaty with many for one week This clause answers to the former, in which Christ is called a Leader. Christ took upon him the character of a leader, or assumed the kingly office, when he promulgated the grace of God. This is the confirmation of the covenant of which the angel now speaks. As we have already stated, the legal expiation of other ritual ceremonies which God designed to confer on the fathers is contrasted with the blessings derived from Christ; and we now gather the same idea from the phrase, the confirmation of the covenant...
Now, therefore, we understand why the angel says, Christ should confirm the covenant for one week, and why that week was placed last in order. In this week will he confirm the covenant with many."

Reformed, Methodist, Presbyterian, Wesleyan, Church of Christ, Church of God (Anderson Indiana), Nazarene, Primitive Baptist, Lutheran, Anglican, Puritan.

LOL. Thanks for the laugh. Are you trying to tell me that all these Churches incorrectly teach that it is Christ whose people destroy the city and the sanctuary. Man I'm still chuckling. I'm not buying any of that swamp land.

 

[The Light]

"And he shall make a firm covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease"
Middle of the 70 week.
Seventh day Adventist church does.

Thanks.

 

[Keraz]

If you can grasp what he is saying, then he is communicating just fine.

The issue is, when people post on this international forum, we see simple errors and mistakes in their posts, it shows a lack of care in their writing, which most likely means a lack of care in studying the scriptures and in their dealings with other people.
If they can't be bothered to check their posts, then can they be bothered to be sure their beliefs are correct?

 

[The Light]

The issue is, when people post on this international forum, we see simple errors and mistakes in their posts, it shows a lack of care in their writing, which most likely means a lack of care in studying the scriptures and in their dealings with other people.
If they can't be bothered to check their posts, then can they be bothered to be sure their beliefs are correct?

id like to rgue that cement. Wy wood u congrue that component. im knot sure Iz could agrees with everything yu are surfing. Due u have any other envydense?

 

[covenantee]

LOL. Thanks for the laugh. Are you trying to tell me that all these Churches incorrectly teach that it is Christ whose people destroy the city and the sanctuary. Man I'm still chuckling. I'm not buying any of that swamp land.

Thanks for the guffaw. You're unable to remember your own post 271, in which you inquired about "this", which in the quoted post by SI within your post referred to Christ confirming the New Covenant.

Sorry that you don't get the last laugh.