could you be an angel ?

[Holy999]

can you say me it

 

[Bee5]

The subject of "what and who" angels are is so misunderstood and teachers are not teaching it. Instead it is all sensationalism and deception.

An "angel" is a person in their supernatural material body that God created us in IN THE BEGINNING( the 1st age of time). Our angel body is of supernatural material dna.. and God called us "angels". A body is just a vessel that our mind(which is our spirit) is in.

There are 3 ages of time in God's plan.
The 1st age is completed (we all have an "angel supernatural body" all created at one time by God).. and we are now in the "2nd age of time" whereby EVERYONE has to come through this age and take on a flesh body and God included Himself as He also takes on a flesh body(calls Himself Jesus or Immanuel(God with us). GOd HImself in His flesh body pays the price for sins with His flesh body by dying on the cross for us that whomsoever will can have eternal life and be healed from their sins.

Genesis 1:26-27 reveals that each of us will take on a flesh body that looks the "same image/looks like" our 1st age angel body. God included Himself as the "He Him".

2 Peter 3 speaks of the 3 ages

This 2nd age is for salvation so that God would not have to destroy everyone as we all had free will from the beginning with clear minds(spirit).
Lucifer worked his way up into authority position and then rebelled trying to oust God. Lucifer drew 1/3rd of the people(angels as we were referred to as) as said in Rev 12. That rebellion.

Lucifer and a group of fallen angels/(people) refused a flesh body for this 2nd age and instead came to earth to seduce flesh women and reproduce their own race (which were the giants) and thus tried to pollute the bloodline through which God would come through (like I said He named Himself Jesus for that flesh body).

Anyone who refused to come thru a flesh body refuses salvation and there is no eternal life for them., as Lucifer and those fallen angels will perish and be blotted out.

The "1st resurrection into eternal life/immortality) for those who accept Jesus(God in a flesh body and what He did for us by paying the price for sins) will receive immortality when Jesus comes in the 2nd advent at the 7th trumpet.
Those who do not will go thru the mellenium 1000 years and try for the 2nd resurrection as stated in 1 Corinthians 15.

When the flesh body dies, we have our supernatural angel body which is in Heaven. Our flesh body is here on earth as long as it lives.

a "body" is just a vessel or container for our mind(or spirit) and our angel body is our 1st body for that 1st age and is an "angel supernatural material body dna".

Our flesh body for this 2nd age is flesh material.
We have 2 bodies . One in Heaven, one on earth.. different dimensions or places.

Our spirit is our mind and is connected to both of our bodies, just like God's Holy Spirit /mind /power is in His body in Heaven and in His flesh body(as Jesus as He walked the earth.

 

[ScottA]

could you be an angel ?​

The word "angel" just means "a messenger." So, yes, one can be a messenger from God, and many are.

 

[ScottA]

The subject of "what and who" angels are is so misunderstood and teachers are not teaching it. Instead it is all sensationalism and deception.

An "angel" is a person in their supernatural material body that God created us in IN THE BEGINNING( the 1st age of time). Our angel body is of supernatural material dna.. and God called us "angels". A body is just a vessel that our mind(which is our spirit) is in.

There are 3 ages of time in God's plan.
The 1st age is completed (we all have an "angel supernatural body" all created at one time by God).. and we are now in the "2nd age of time" whereby EVERYONE has to come through this age and take on a flesh body and God included Himself as He also takes on a flesh body(calls Himself Jesus or Immanuel(God with us). GOd HImself in His flesh body pays the price for sins with His flesh body by dying on the cross for us that whomsoever will can have eternal life and be healed from their sins.

Genesis 1:26-27 reveals that each of us will take on a flesh body that looks the "same image/looks like" our 1st age angel body. God included Himself as the "He Him".

1 Peter 3 speaks of the 3 ages

This 2nd age is for salvation so that God would not have to destroy everyone as we all had free will from the beginning with clear minds(spirit).
Lucifer worked his way up into authority position and then rebelled trying to oust God. Lucifer drew 1/3rd of the people(angels as we were referred to as) as said in Rev 12. That rebellion.

Lucifer and a group of fallen angels/(people) refused a flesh body for this 2nd age and instead came to earth to seduce flesh women and reproduce their own race (which were the giants) and thus tried to pollute the bloodline through which God would come through (like I said He named Himself Jesus for that flesh body).

Anyone who refused to come thru a flesh body refuses salvation and there is no eternal life for them., as Lucifer and those fallen angels will perish and be blotted out.

The "1st resurrection into eternal life/immortality) for those who accept Jesus(God in a flesh body and what He did for us by paying the price for sins) will receive immortality when Jesus comes in the 2nd advent at the 7th trumpet.
Those who do not will go thru the mellenium 1000 years and try for the 2nd resurrection as stated in 1 Corinthians 15.

When the flesh body dies, we have our supernatural angel body which is in Heaven. Our flesh body is here on earth as long as it lives.

a "body" is just a vessel or container for our mind(or spirit) and our angel body is our 1st body for that 1st age and is an "angel supernatural material body dna".

Our flesh body for this 2nd age is flesh material.
We have 2 bodies . One in Heaven, one on earth.. different dimensions or places.

Our spirit is our mind and is connected to both of our bodies, just like God's Holy Spirit /mind /power is in His body in Heaven and in His flesh body(as Jesus as He walked the earth.

That's all very good--very insightful.

Except when you included the delusions of the "lie" foretold by Paul. regarding the second advent of Christ. I don't want to derail the thread, but all that the church has believed and taught, saying that Christ was not to return "soon" or "quickly" (in other words "I stand at the door and knock" (present tense)), and all that He spoke of would not "shortly come to pass", was a "lie."

 

[Bee5]

I was not referring to Paul .

When Christ said He is coming "quickly"... just means that when He comes AT THE 7th trumpet 2nd advent appearance , it will be with speed.. rapidly... no delay.. He will COME QUICKLY ..be here fast AT THAT TIME specifically. Ezekiel talks of those highly polished bronze vehicles... they are fast...

 

[ScottA]

I was not referring to Paul .

When Christ said He is coming "quickly"... just means that when He comes AT THE 7th trumpet 2nd advent appearance , it will be with speed.. rapidly... no delay.. He will COME QUICKLY ..be here fast AT THAT TIME specifically. Ezekiel talks of those highly polished bronze vehicles... they are fast...

I was not inferring that you were referring to Paul, but rather that he was referring to those like yourself (apparently) who have believed the "lie."

 

[JohnDB]

Hebrews (the book) says that Angels are ministering spirits.

However Jesus called the Pharisees "you brood of vipers" and their Father was not Abraham but Satan. But they were supposed to be ministers of God.

So....
In short.
We can be devils or angels....we get to decide every day.

 

[Dan Clarkston]

Nope... people are not angels and never become angels.

 

[Bee5]

Jesus said, "If you have seen Me , you have seen the Father".

God has and has ALWAYS had a body AND a Spirit which is ones' mind and power with the ability to "cast forth" positive or negative thoughts, ideas.

"God is the same yesterday, tomorrow and forever".

God has ALWAYS had a body AND a Mind/Spirit. He is not some "spook".

Get rid of all the "relgious" junk and rabbit trails of deception and get into Truth.
Do not separate His body from His Mind/Spirit. As God uses His Mind/Spirit to "cast forth" positive information all over which comes to our own mind/spirit and we can accept or refuse correct information and there is the negative opposite which is from lucifer as lucifer uses his mind/spirit to cast forth all the negative opposite information and lies.

Just like we us our spirit/mind to "cast forth" information/thought/ideas.. messages of information.

God gives "names and labels" so we can understand the "age" of time, situation , location etc.. He is referring to and which body ... each of us has a 1st age body made of "supernatural material or angel body" ... and each of us has a 2nd age body of flesh which perishes.

Our angel always has the face of God means in heaven (where our "angel body" is), we have access to God if we choose Him

Matthew 18:10 ..Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones(all... plural); for I say unto you, That in heaven their(those who accept God as believers) angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
This tells us that EACH of our "angel body" is with God and has access to Him in Heaven IF we have chosen to believe God in our free will to choose truth.. the big work "if" is conditional.. those who dont choose God dont even want access to Him for the truth.. Those who want truth and want access can have it.. seek and you shall find Him

Flesh and blood cannot enter heaven.. it is our "angel supernatural body material" that is there.. not our flesh

We in a flesh body have access to God thru our "minds/spirit" with His

God Himself was Melchezedek in earth in the time of Abraham. God uses names and labels and symbolism so we know the time , location, etc.

Dont put God in a box... He can do whatever He wants. And He is not a "spook".. He has a body and always has and it is not separate from His spirit/mind just as ours is not.

 

[amadeus]

The word "angel" just means "a messenger." So, yes, one can be a messenger from God, and many are.

@Holy999
Could you be an angel?

you know what "entertaining angels unaware" really means right, like prolly entertaining a thought or whatever?

@amadeus, can you recall any Scripture that's contradicting?

I would guess that the answer, in part at least, lies in the understanding of who or what is an angel.

There are many messengers, but are they all sent by God...? Of those sent by God, are not some sent with a left handed message rather than a right handed one? Are the messengers sent all of heavenly type [not presently and perhaps never human?] or were not many [but not all] of them quite as human as we are?

We may think of the angel Gabriel as a "heavenly" type:

"And it came to pass, when I, even I Daniel, had seen the vision, and sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.

And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said, Gabriel, make this man to understand the vision." Dan 8:15-16

"And the angel answering said unto him, I am GABRIEL, that stand in the presence of God; and am sent to speak unto thee, and to show thee these glad tidings." Luke 1:19

But we see that the same Greek word translated in Luke 1:19 as "angel" is translated as "messenger" referring to John the Baptist in Matthew 11:

a[ggeloß Aggelos (ang'-el-os);
Word Origin: Greek, Noun Masculine, Strong #: 32

1. a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God

"But what went ye out for to see? A prophet? yea, I say unto you, and more than a prophet.

For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee" Matt 11:9-10

So who is a messenger or angel sent by God? Could it our preacher or our pastor or our minister? Could it be you or me to whom God has given a message to deliver to one or to many... or even as @bbyrd009 suggests... to ourselves?

Who are we "entertaining"? What kind of a job are we doing? Are we "good" entertainers or...?

"And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
For I was an hungered, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungered, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

For I was an hungered, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:

I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal."Matt 25:33-46

How many angels are attending us at our tomb...? Are our angels [assuming that we have some] have a right handed purpose rather than a left handed one? Do we see him [the angel] or them simply as disconnected gardeners? [Are we "unaware" of who they really are? Do we care?] Of course we may believe [deluded?] that we are not really dead at all? Are we correct?

 

[Dan Clarkston]

I would guess that the answer, in part at least, lies in the understanding of who or what is an angel.

It's more important for us to know and understand what man is and what God did when He crated man

God replicated Himself when He created man... angels are servants, they are just the help so to speak.

There is no salvation for angels so they are obviously expendable to the Lord and are not created in God's Image as man is.

Psalms 8:4-8
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.

Verse 5 contains one of the errors found in the KJV when is says God made man a little lower than the angels... it should read God made man a little lower than Himself (this doesn't count that Adam fell from what God created him to be and became subservient to a fallen angel)

In verse 5 the workd angel is actually H0430 - 'elohiym -- pronounced: el-o-heem'

plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God

No this doesn't mean man is on the same level as God as some will come along and claim this is what I'm saying... this simply means God created man in His Own Image, in His own Likeness... which is NOT what He did when He crated angels

The devil has done a good job tactically in deceiving man thru false religious teachings to convince man that he is nothing but a worm in the dirt, always a born sinner, and meaningless to the Lord.

He's been able to achieve this thru slick talking "ministers" you sound good but are actually teaching the word of the devil... and most people accept these false teachers because not everything they say is wrong which is part of the satanic deception

The devil knows that in order to successfully deceive people he must allow them to have some truth, but then he hides the poison (deception) in with the truth and most people eat it up hook, line, and stinker!

 

[amadeus]

It's more important for us to know and understand what man is and what God did when He crated man

Are you so certain none of us are messengers as was John the Baptist? Is minister of God called by God not a messenger [angel: of God

a[ggeloß Aggelos (ang'-el-os); Word Origin: Greek, Noun Masculine, Strong #: 32 a messenger, envoy, one who is sent, an angel, a messenger from God

as in...

Mt 11:10

For this is he, of whom it is written, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.

God replicated Himself when He created man... angels are servants, they are just the help so to speak.

And did not man diminish himself when he disobeyed God?

There is no salvation for angels so they are obviously expendable to the Lord and are not created in God's Image as man is.

I would be careful in deciding that heavenly angels are expendable. Are men who have NOT received the Life which Jesus brought now in God's image?

Psalms 8:4-8
What is man, that thou art mindful of him? and the son of man, that thou visitest him?
For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour.
Thou madest him to have dominion over the works of thy hands; thou hast put all things under his feet:
All sheep and oxen, yea, and the beasts of the field;
The fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea, and whatsoever passeth through the paths of the seas.

Verse 5 contains one of the errors found in the KJV when is says God made man a little lower than the angels... it should read God made man a little lower than Himself (this doesn't count that Adam fell from what God created him to be and became subservient to a fallen angel)

My Luther translation agrees...

Ps 8:5

Du hast ihn wenig niedriger gemacht denn Gott, und mit Ehre und Schmuck hast du ihn gekrönt.

In verse 5 the workd angel is actually H0430 - 'elohiym -- pronounced: el-o-heem'

plural of 433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God

No this doesn't mean man is on the same level as God as some will come along and claim this is what I'm saying... this simply means God created man in His Own Image, in His own Likeness... which is NOT what He did when He crated angels

Yet where does the Bible show what God did when heavenly angels [as opposed to any messenger men] were created?

The devil has done a good job tactically in deceiving man thru false religious teachings to convince man that he is nothing but a worm in the dirt, always a born sinner, and meaningless to the Lord.

Man is nonetheless nothing but dirt without the Life lost by Adam unless restored through Jesus.

He's been able to achieve this thru slick talking "ministers" you sound good but are actually teaching the word of the devil... and most people accept these false teachers because not everything they say is wrong which is part of the satanic deception

The devil knows that in order to successfully deceive people he must allow them to have some truth, but then he hides the poison (deception) in with the truth and most people eat it up hook, line, and stinker! View attachment 57185

If a person never stops seeking first the Kingdom of God and the righteousness of God will he be deceived by men? [see Matt 6:33]

And then again...

Mt 5:6

Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

If one continues to hungry and thirsty after righteousness [as God understands righteousness] will he not be filled in spite the deception that some men may be supporting and teaching?