So this is a start. Some scholars believe there was a Moses like figure. Moses like means not exactly Moses. So when we look at the evidence for this Moses like figure what do we see?
So far there seems to be two things that may lead somewhere .
1. There are people named Moses. Moses is an Egyptian name, not a Jewish name.
2. The story shows evidence of understanding the Egyptian culture.
That’a fairly ambiguous.
Within literature one thing to realize is that we can trade tropes and stories. Take the story of Moses being placed in a reed basket. Well before we see a story of a Jewish Moses passing around we see a few other stories. One is from the Hittite community.
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In this story babies are placed in reed baskets with tar and sent down rivers where gods collected them and raised them up.
Later on we see the Hittites conquering the Babylonians before both were assimilated into the Assyrian empire of Mesopotamia,
Then we see a story about a man named Sagon who was sent down a river in a reed basket and he became a king. At this point we still see no stories of a Jewish Moses. But the Assyrians conquering them in exile. Then the Jews lest centuries later and suddenly we now have a story of a man named Moses.
We also see in the Westcar Papyrus , which predates the story exodus, mentioning a Canaanite prophet splitting water with a jewel.
So then we have to ask, was the Egyptian influence on the Bible from a man who escaped Egyptian culture or was it simply post exile data.
We can look at things like the exodus in the wilderness. Around a million men and women, wandering in the desert would leave archeological evidence. Pottery, bones, and so on. But there is none.
So we see older stories than the Jewish stories by different cultures with different people doing parallel things and we see these stories show up suddenly in Jewish writings post exile. With no evidence to support it .
So RTL you mentioned there are some writings that mentions Moses outside of the biblical writings. What specifically is mentioning him?
I ask because often someone who has never studied something, will type in a question and then copy and paste the first thing that shows up as if it’s evidence.
Now Matt.
Why do I think you’ve not dived into the historicity of Moses is because you seemingly lack any info about it. You back peddle and change goal posts. You don’t cite a single source.
So let’s say I’m wrong and you’ve studied the historicity of Moses outside of biblical literature or centuries later. What are they? Who are the historians, the Egyptologist, the scholars and so on whose work you went over?
Yes it’s a rabbit hole to change goal posts from the existence of Moses to the existence of Jesus. Then to are unrelated. Let’s say Moses did exist. He existed independently of Jesus for several thousands years.
But if you just presumed Moses was real, and you presumed everyone thought Moses was real, and then for the first time you hear someone thinks Moses is fake and what you do is change goal posts and copy and paste the first thing from a search, without even knowing what those things mean, then it seems like all you have is presumptions and not something developed off of research.
Which is why you don’t seem to be aware of jargon and think I’m just creating it. A simple google search would even show that nonsense verse is a term and that term is used in many ways to describe nonsense literature. When using these terms within a conversation like this the suprasegmentals is not focused on emotional utterances outside of language mechanics but on how circular logic is being employed.
So as someone who did not just hear this yesterday, but years ago, and read 4-5 books on this subject years ago, and as someone who listened to 3 lectures on this, and have looked into several related matters throughout the last ten years, it’s just very obvious by what someone says and does not say alluding to their work in this matter.
