Can a Believer Loose Their Salvation?

[JBO]

It's only by being one in Christ that man once again possesses free will! We aren't free until we are made free from bondage to sin and death! As long as we are in bondage to sin and death, we remain natural, fallen man. As a natural man we are only free to choose that which is natural to us. In darkness and unbelief we will NEVER naturally hear Christ calling us to be saved. The only voice we hear before we are born again is the voice we heeded in the garden when we listened to the voice of evil, and brought bondage to sin and death into God's creation.

You actually think that you are born again and then you believe? Are you a Calvinist?

 

[rwb]

Non-believers went out from believers.

Exactly! If they had truly been born again through the Spirit of Christ within, they would not have departed from the faithful saints. The fact that they did, does not mean they lost what they never possessed! As you've rightly said they NEVER believed!

 

[JBO]

Your words are unbiblical...therefore ignorant of Gods word...

The pot calling the kettle black. Again.

 

[Ritajanice]

The pot calling the kettle black. Again.

I posted scripture...you did not...I find you lack spiritual understanding.

Spirit gives birth to spirit?

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◄ John 1:13 ►

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Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God. ​ ◄ John 3:3 ► ​ Audio Crossref Comment Greek Verse (Click for Chapter) New International Version Jesus replied, “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.”

 

[JBO]

I posted scripture...you did not.

Can you provide an example from scripture of one being born again?

 

[Eternally Grateful]

First of all, what you quoted was spoken to and about His disciples, and you are not one of them. Second of all, God didn't force you to become a believer and God doesn't force you to continue to be a believer. He, through the Holy Spirit, will certainly help you to continue believing, but He will not force it.

so we are not disciples of Christ? What about the great commission?

Your right God does not force you to believe. and he does not force us who did trust him to stop. because we never would.

 

[Eternally Grateful]

That is certainly where it begins. And if you died at that instance, that would be enough.

Um, no it would not.

Because that person had not yet repented.. nor has he or she received the grace gift of Life

 

[JBO]

I posted scripture...you did not.

Doesn't change your condition of being a pot.

 

[JBO]

so we are not disciples of Christ? What about the great commission?

Your right God does not force you to believe. and he does not force us who did trust him to stop. because we never would.

Maybe you wouldn't but some would.

 

[Ritajanice]

Can you provide an example from scripture of one being born again?

I already have on this thread..time and time again.

You don’t understand the scripture I posted, time and time again...it seems like you are in ignorance of the scripture I posted about being Born of God/ Born Again/ Spirit gives birth to spirit.

I ain’t wasting no more time on you...

 

[Ritajanice]

Doesn't change your condition of being a pot.

Can you please stop getting personal.or I will report your post...

 

[JBO]

Um, no it would not.

Because that person had not yet repented.. nor has he or she received the grace gift of Life

Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness."

Rom 4:23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,
Rom 4:24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Maybe you wouldn't but some would.

No one would

If you knew what true saving faith really was. You would understand that.

People do not want to go back to death..

 

[Eternally Grateful]

Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness."

Rom 4:23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,
Rom 4:24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,

Abraham believed God about the promise..

He did not just believe in God.

No wonder you do not understand the gospel.

 

[Ritajanice]

Rom 4:3 For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness."

Rom 4:23 But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone,
Rom 4:24 but for ours also. It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord,

In order to believe, we must be Born Again...otherwise you are just believing in nothing.

We must be Born of God. Spirit gives birth to spirit?

 

[Ritajanice]

Children of God can’t go back to dead and being in darkness.

Because they have beenBorn of God...by his Spirit we are brought into his marvellous life changing/ saving, light..

We are Alive in Christ.

 

[JBO]

Can you please stop getting personal.or I will report your post...

Your calling me ignorant was not getting personal? Perhaps any reporting you do should begin by reporting your own reply #180.

 

[Ritajanice]

Your calling me ignorant was not getting personal? Perhaps any reporting you do should begin by reporting your own reply #180.

I said you were ignorant regarding scripture..correct..report my post then..?


Why..because you have not answered any scripture nor were you able to interpret what I posted...therefore ignorant of that scripture.. @JBO

 

[JBO]

I ain’t wasting no more time on you...

Oh if I could only count on that.

 

[rwb]

And you just did that with your parenthetical (if it was possible). If it were not possible, the author would have never given it as a conditional.

The passage begins "for impossible" not "if possible". What does he say is impossible? For those enlightened, tasted the heavenly gift, partakers of the Holy Spirit, tasted the good word of God, and powers of the world to come. IOW the writer is assuring us of salvation telling us what is impossible, and in the next verse he tells us why it is not possible. Because IF they fall away they could never be renewed unto repentance, because that would mean Christ must be crucified and put to open shame again!

Hebrews 6:4 (KJV) For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Hebrews 6:5-6 (KJV) And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come, If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.

The final assurance of our salvation, possession of eternal life is hearing all these things were said that we might have confidence, knowing that the life we receive when we are born again is certain and can never be lost. Though we are warned because of the tares among the wheat we have those things that accompany salvation FOREVER!

Hebrews 6:9 (KJV) But, beloved, we are persuaded better things of you, and things that accompany salvation, though we thus speak.