Babylon

[Jerry Huerta]

Don't fret about it, eventually you will understand that idea of the beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit can only be about Satan himself. I probably shouldn't have brought it up to you, as your eyes God has closed on that, and you are not alone. Press on.

As I said, it can’t be Satan because it wouldn’t be helpful in solving the riddle, insomuch he WAS before all the kings. I don’t worry about Satan followers, even if they’re ignorant of it.

 

[Truth7t7]

Israel to rule the nations according to scripture.

You suggest that a National Israel "Jews" will rule the nations, this claim isn't found in scripture

 

[Jerry Huerta]

You suggest that a National Israel "Jews" will rule the nations, this claim isn't found in scripture

You’re totally clueless. I never “suggested” anything of the sort in your misrepresentation. I said “Israel” is saved and rules, the nations; let me add, the Church is Israel,

Galatians 6
15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
16 And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

Furthermore, when Christ was queried if he would restore Israel before he ascended, he didn’t say he wasn’t going to do any such thing, but rather that it wasn’t for the disciples “to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed,” about the restoration (Acts 1:7). The OT is replete with passages of Israel’s GATHERING and restoration when Christ returns,

Jeremiah 23:
1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

You amills are clueless about the scattering. Go back and do your homework by reading the thread and see how clueless you are about how Israel was prophesied to be scattered and then gathered into the kingdom when Christ returns. You guys are almost as clueless as the Pharisees about the two advents of Christ in the OT.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

See, what petulance! I said Christ was anointed king when he ascended and reigns when he returns.

Petulance is your middle name. So, Jesus is not yet reigning according to you, which means you don't believe He is your King right now. Which is pathetic! He is my King! He is the King of kings and Lord of lords with all power in heaven and earth (Matt 28:18, Eph 1:19-23). It's sad that you think He's not your King right now! Who is your king right now then?

Leave it to those who get it!

Yes, so you need to leave it to people like me. You get NOTHING.

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

You’re totally clueless. I never “suggested” anything of the sort in your misrepresentation. I said “Israel” is saved and rules, the nations; let me add, the Church is Israel,

Galatians 6
15 For neither circumcision counts for anything, nor uncircumcision, but a new creation.
16 And as for all who walk by this rule, peace and mercy be upon them, and upon the Israel of God.

Furthermore, when Christ was queried if he would restore Israel before he ascended, he didn’t say he wasn’t going to do any such thing, but rather that it wasn’t for the disciples “to know times or seasons that the Father has fixed,” about the restoration (Acts 1:7). The OT is replete with passages of Israel’s GATHERING and restoration when Christ returns,

Jeremiah 23:
1 Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.
2 Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
3 And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
4 And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
5 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

You amills are clueless about the scattering. Go back and do your homework by reading the thread and see how clueless you are about how Israel was prophesied to be scattered and then gathered into the kingdom when Christ returns. You guys are almost as clueless as the Pharisees about the two advents of Christ in the OT.

Few are more clueless than you. But, you are too clueless to even realize that. Jesus reigns NOW! He is my King NOW! Who is your king?

 

[Spiritual Israelite]

As I said, it can’t be Satan because it wouldn’t be helpful in solving the riddle, insomuch he WAS before all the kings. I don’t worry about Satan followers, even if they’re ignorant of it.

Your belief that Jesus is not reigning as King now is Satanic.

 

[Jerry Huerta]

Petulance is your middle name. So, Jesus is not yet reigning according to you, which means you don't believe He is your King right now. Which is pathetic! He is my King! He is the King of kings and Lord of lords with all power in heaven and earth (Matt 28:18, Eph 1:19-23). It's sad that you think He's not your King right now! Who is your king right now then?


Yes, so you need to leave it to people like me. You get NOTHING.

Few are more clueless than you. But, you are too clueless to even realize that. Jesus reigns NOW! He is my King NOW! Who is your king?

Your belief that Jesus is not reigning as King now is Satanic.

Why don’t you stop being silly. I never said Christ isn’t king, only that he’s not reigning on David’s throne now; that happens when he returns.

As scripture states, flesh and blood can’t enter the kingdom. No doubt, you are mortal and flesh and blood, so you’re not in the kingdom.

Overcomers enter the kingdom when Christ returns (Matthew 25:31, 16:27, 19:28, 24:46-47, Luke 12:35-44, 19:11-27; and Revelation 2:25-26, 3:21, 11:18, 22:12), which exposes amill and postmill as fuel fit for the fire (1 Corinthians 3:13).

Again, leave it to those who get it!