Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?

[Matthias]

Try again

The definition of insanity. Review the thread.

Luke 16
The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.

No you didn't.

Every time.

 

[Jack]

The definition of insanity. Review the thread.

Every time.

God doesn't have to ask your permission to burn people in Hell FOREVER! Understand? You will.

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

 

[Behold]

The fire did its work. Can you see the smoke that is rising?

I can see you blowing smoke as you try to deny eternal judgment found here.

John 3:36

 

[Matthias]

God doesn't have to ask your permission to burn people in Hell FOREVER! Understand? You will.

I’ve never said that God has to ask my persmission to do anything. The thought has never entered my mind.

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER ...

See the trinitarian teaching I‘ve posted on conditional immortality, which includes this passage of scripture - or deny that I’ve even posted it in this thread and elsewhere.

 

[Jack]

I’ve never said that God has to ask my persmission to do anything. The thought has never entered my mind.

Glad you believe God can burn in Hell forever whoever He chooses.

See the trinitarian teaching I‘ve posted on conditional immortality, which includes this passage of scripture - or deny that I’ve even posted it in this thread and elsewhere.

I'm only interested in God's Word, not your opinions. Got any???

 

[Matthias]

I can see you blowing smoke as you try to deny eternal judgment found here.

John 3:36

I don’t deny eternal judgement. I deny eternal conscious torment of the wicked and affirm conditional immortality.

I also reject any and all assertions that trinitarians who deny eternal conscious torment and affirm conditional immortality are “blowing smoke as [they] try to deny eternal judgement”.

 

[Jack]

Hell will be FILLED with people who don't believe in Hell!

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER !!!

 

[Matthias]

Glad you believe God can burn in Hell forever whoever He chooses.

Okay.

I'm only interested in God's Word, not your opinions. Got any???

I invite you to see what others see and you deny -> my quotations of scripture in this and in other threads.

 

[Jack]

Hell will be FILLED with people who don't believe in Hell!

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER !!!

Okay.

I invite you to see what others see and you deny -> my quotations of scripture in this and in other threads.

I didn't see your Scripture quotes. Must not be many.

 

[Behold]

I don’t deny eternal judgement. I deny eternal conscious torment

Post a verse that says that the eternal wrath of God that is "ON" the Christ rejectors, that is found as their current Damnation..

A.) John 3:36..

= Is not "conscious", once they arrive to Hell..

Their UNBELIEF Is "Conscious".. and God's Judgment is "conscious"..

You'll never find a verse in a BIBLE (that is a real one,) that says that "once you get to Hell, it all gets better, and that eternal judgment, isnt as bad as "Torment" sounds.

Do you understand what JESUS suffered to keep people out of that Torment?
And you now want to pretend and DENY..... that what they are going to face, as their eternal life that is their 2nd Death.... is not worse then what came to Jesus as that Cross, once they are in Hell and then the Lake of Fire?

Your theology, regarding John 3:36...., is warped and deceitful.

 

[Matthias]

Hell will be FILLED with people who don't believe in Hell!

Rev 20 They will be tormented day and night FOREVER !!!

I didn't see your Scripture quotes. Must not be many.

I appreciate that you have moved from “none” to ”not many”. That’s a start.

 

[Jack]

I appreciate that you have moved from “none” to ”not many”. That’s a start.

"Hell will be FILLED with people who don't believe in Hell!"

Glad you agree with the Bible!

 

[Matthias]

Post a verse that says that the eternal wrath of God that is "ON" the Christ rejectors, that is found as their current Damnation..

John 3:36..

Is not "conscious", once they arrive to Hell..

Their UNBELIEF Is "Conscious".. and God's Judgment is "conscious"..

You'll never find a verse in a BIBLE (that is a real one,) that says that "once you get to Hell, it all gets better, and that eternal judgment, isnt as bad as "Torment" sounds.

Do you understand what JESUS suffered to keep people out of that Torment?
And you now want to pretend that what they are going to face, is not worse then what came to Jesus as that Cross, once they are in Hell and then the Lake of Fire?

Your theology, in this regard, is warped.

What you’re saying about me you’re saying about all trinitarians who believe, as I do, in conditional immortality.

 

[Behold]

What you’re saying about me is what you’re saying about all trinitarians who believe, as I do, in conditional immortality

And The Pope believes that Mary flew to Heaven.

L Ron Hubbard believes that sin does not exist.

Jesus told you that its better to tear out your eyes, then to end up in that Eternal Torment.

Jesus spoke more about HELL< more than He talked about HEAVEN.

You dont have to believe Him.... tho you should.

You have free will..
Believe as you would have it.
You get to choose .

 

[Matthias]

And The Pope believes that Mary flew to Heaven.

L Ron Hubbard believes that sin does not exist.

Jesus told you that its better to tear out your eyes, then to end up in that Eternal Torment.

Jesus spoke more about HELL< more than He talked about HEAVEN.

You dont have to believe Him.... tho you should.

You have free will..
Believe as you would have it.
You get to choose .

The Pope doesn’t believe in conditional immortality. He’s, essentially, on your side on this issue.

L. Ron Hubbard was a trinitarian?

As with @Jack, everyone who disagrees with you doesn’t believe what Jesus said?

I’ve chosen to believe in conditional immortality because that is what I see presented in scripture.

 

[Jack]

The Pope doesn’t believe in conditional immortality.

L. Ron Hubbard was a trinitarian?

As with @Jack, everyone who disagrees with you doesn’t believe what Jesus said?

I quote Jesus. You should try it.

 

[Behold]

The Pope doesn’t believe in conditional immortality.

But he does believe in a literal Hell.

He has issues with "works" not being a part of "how am i saved" initially, as "justification by faith"... without water, and without works, does not agree with the Catholic Bible.

So, he's "kinda stuck".

 

[Matthias]

I quote Jesus. You should try it.

I’ll personally hand $1,000 in cash to anyone who can demonstrate that I’ve never tried it.

Why, I ask again, do you continue to do this to yourself?

 

[Matthias]

But he does believe in a literal Hell.

So do I.

He has issues with "works" not being a part of "how am i saved" initially, as "justification by faith"... without water, and without works, does not agree with the Catholic Bible.

So, he's "kinda stuck".

I’m not on his team.

 

[Behold]

I quote Jesus. You should try it.

I did.

He told you that its better to tear out your eyes then end up in the Hell.

Initially..."Hell was created for the DEVIL and His Angels"", and that means it was created before ADAM was created... Before Jerusalem was created, and before fools were born who decided to try to Air Condition Hell, (Theologically).. = before they move in,.. by teaching that it does not exist or its "not really that bad", or "its temporary".

The fact is.. Hell that is the initial stopping place for the Eternally DAMNED,

John 3:36


= is a part of Eternal Damnation... and it'll last for as Long as God lives.