Of course. Cities won't burn forever. The people will.
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Are you sending your neighbors to Hell?
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41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
The cities are still burning, according to scripture. The language is figurative, not literal.
You already have them in hell before they have been judged in the white throne judgement.
Scripture speaks about the cities.
People / gays who lived in Sodom and Gomorrah, if I’ve understood you correctly. Others since then, too. Please correct me if I’ve misunderstood you and you believe there is no one at all burning in hell right now.
The question is specifically concerning trinitarian ministers who disagree with you on this particular issue.
Cities don't burn forever. People do.
Luke 16
19 The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
Neither burn forever. The language used to describe the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah is figurative. The eternal fire that burned them is no longer burning them. We can visit the area today and see with our own eyes that this is so. It is the affect of the fire that is endless.
I suspect that you’re going to accuse trinitarian ministers who believe this is a parable of being Satan’s ministers.
Jesus said people do.
The people aren't there. They're burning.
Suspect all you like. I'll stick with Jesus!
Matthew 25:41
41 Then He will also say to those on the left hand, 'Depart from Me, you cursed, into the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels:
Jesus doesn’t believe all people are immortal.
Where? Before they have been resurrected to be judged in the great white throne judgement?
You’ve already implied that they are ministers of Satan. What a thing to say about your fellow trinitarians!
Behold
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Jesus was back in Heaven 40 days after He rose from the dead.
Before He ascended, He told the remaining Apostles that """"""He had many things to tell them... but they were not ready to hear/receive/understand.""""""
AFter Jesus was back in Heaven, this happened.
"Paul is a chosen vessel unto me"...
To do what?
A.) Teach all that Jesus said, that the other Apostles still needed to learn, as well as give the Body of Christ "church Doctrine".
This is why Peter said that Paul's LETTERS, are "Scripture", as Paul's LETTERS became MOST of the NT Epistles.
Right now, the world is in "the time of the Gentiles", and this will end... and Paul is the "Apostle to the Gentiles"..
HE is our Teacher, and that is why He told us..
1 Corinthians 11:1
RLT63
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I’ve already provided scripture. You have denied that I have.
They are burning in hell before they are resurrected for judgement?
I’ve quoted you in every response I’ve made to your posts.
Behold
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Thats an untruth you posted.
I can take you to Sodom and Gomorrah, and show you the black ash in the ROCK where GOD's judgement against those SODOMITES... did that to them.
Also, "Hell" was created long before Jerusalem, existed.
Its not going anywhere, until it is cast into the Lake of Fire.
Try again
Luke 16
The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.
No you didn't.
What could be worse for them than the conscious eternal torment they’ve (allegedly) already been suffering for thousands years?
What would be the purpose of judging them at the white throne judgement if nothing is going to change in their circumstance?
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