Apostate Israel is Babylon- common sense.

[TribulationSigns]

No ,I didn't unignore him.
I believe I have figured it out though.
I'm used to hitting the last post on my thread.
If his is the last post then it shows it.
When I answered your post,his post vanished.

LOL. No his post didn’t vanished. It is still there but hidden TO YOU while others can read it. You’re still funny because you don’t understand how it works. .

 

[PGS11]

As long as no antisemitic thought are involve when you make this claim.These thought come from the devil not God who has been trying to wipe out the Israelite's from the beginning. God restored Israel to the holy land as prophesied you cannot deny that.If you were to look at the the six day war it was like it was right out of the bible. It was a war they should of lost attacked from all sides by 6 countries.But not only did they win they took huge amounts of lands and completely destroyed the enemy even Israel couldn't believe it .It is also what the Antichrist will want - Gods chosen people to bow down before him as the ultimate insult to God but the see who he is refusing sending him into a rage which brings on the final battle .Everything goes down on that little piece of land everything in the bible is tied to that piece of land.The land that millions have died trying to possess and countless more will die trying to possess it.The smart move is stay away from it God decides who and what happens on that land.You mess with the holy land you mess with God.

 

[tailgator]

As long as no antisemitic thought are involve when you make this claim.These thought come from the devil not God who has been trying to wipe out the Israelite's from the beginning. God restored Israel to the holy land as prophesied you cannot deny that.If you were to look at the the six day war it was like it was right out of the bible. It was a war they should of lost attacked from all sides by 6 countries.But not only did they win they took huge amounts of lands and completely destroyed the enemy even Israel couldn't believe it .It is also what the Antichrist will want - Gods chosen people to bow down before him as the ultimate insult to God but the see who he is refusing sending him into a rage which brings on the final battle .Everything goes down on that little piece of land everything in the bible is tied to that piece of land.The land that millions have died trying to possess and countless more will die trying to possess it.The smart move is stay away from it God decides who and what happens on that land.You mess with the holy land you mess with God.

Your not the first I've seen who believes Jesus Christ is antisemitic because Jesus said the Jewish leaders would kill his disciples.

It's not antisemitic to preach God's word.

Mathew 23:34
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.


You only believe gentiles can oppose christ .Your love for the beast has blinded you to the truth Jesus speaks.

 

[tailgator]

As long as no antisemitic thought are involve when you make this claim.These thought come from the devil not God who has been trying to wipe out the Israelite's from the beginning. God restored Israel to the holy land as prophesied you cannot deny that.If you were to look at the the six day war it was like it was right out of the bible. It was a war they should of lost attacked from all sides by 6 countries.But not only did they win they took huge amounts of lands and completely destroyed the enemy even Israel couldn't believe it .It is also what the Antichrist will want - Gods chosen people to bow down before him as the ultimate insult to God but the see who he is refusing sending him into a rage which brings on the final battle .Everything goes down on that little piece of land everything in the bible is tied to that piece of land.The land that millions have died trying to possess and countless more will die trying to possess it.The smart move is stay away from it God decides who and what happens on that land.You mess with the holy land you mess with God.

And for your education,it's not Satan that has brought the nations against Israel time and time again.God said he would do this.The only reason the romans were able to defeat Israel is because Israel rejected God.
Now in the lasts days the nations bring the Jews back to the promised land and there they serve the beast.The six day war is straight out of the Bible.Its in Daniel 7.The little horn defeating three of the other horns.But as I said,your love for the beast has blinded your eyes to the truth.

You will continue to support the beast untill Christ comes and destroys the beast.

John 8:44
44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


And no,your wrong.The devil is not trying to destroy his children.He wants his children to flourish and multiply .I bet you hate hearing everything Jesus preaches in the gospel against the beast.It goes against everything you believe.

 

[rwb]

Why are you ignoring everything I post from.the word of God?

The Lord reigns over the world when the nations are being destroyed by fire in zech 14.Your ignoring everything Zechariah has written.

Mathew 13:41-42 is about the same event when Christ recieves his kingdom.upon earth.Everyome in his kingdom who do evil.are destroyed by fire.


Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

You ask,why would Christ reign over them who do evil when the word of God says them who do evil.are consumed when he comes into his kingdom.

I'm trying to show how you are forcing your doctrine into the text because you lack understanding. You think you have rightly divided the Word by taking verses out of context to promote your doctrine. You also fail to consider other passages from Scripture that do NOT support your doctrine. Look for example how you have done this with Mt 13:41-42.

Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The world (field) that now is a physical world where the Gospel is proclaimed to both the children of the Kingdom of God and the children of the wicked one. You use these two verses from Matthew trying to force Zechariah to fit your doctrine. But as the context shows us, Matthew does not say that Christ is reigning over this physical world of both the good and the wicked while the nations are being destroyed by fire as you assume. Matthew tells us there shall not be a destruction of the wicked by fire until the time comes for this physical world to come to an end. Matthew is speaking of what shall come in the end of the world. Matthew, nor Zechariah tell us there shall be more time given this world AFTER the Second Coming of Christ.

At the harvest, that shall be when the saints are resurrected from the graves with the saints still alive at His coming again shall be caught up (raptured) and their mortal bodies are changed to immortal and incorruptible bodies of flesh, fit for the new earth that shall be after this earth and all manner of evil is utterly destroyed by the fire of heaven that shall come when the Lord returns.

You appear to see everything written with physical sight and base your understanding on the physical. You ignore Christ telling us that His Kingdom is NOT NOW of this world, and cannot be seen with physical eyes, and the only way to gain entrance into that Kingdom of God that cannot be seen is "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"! That new birth, like the wind cannot be physically seen because the Kingdom of God that now is, is NOT physical but a spiritual Kingdom we obtain through the Spirit of Christ within us. Try reading the prophets of Old, like Zechariah with spiritual insight rather than looking at the physical that is ALL destined to destruction.

 

[rwb]

Oh wait.You believe Christ is already reigning over sinners and them who do evil in his kingdom .


Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.




Im betting you don't know what kingdom Jesus is talking about here.

Christ rules and reigns over His people! Those in unbelief are ruled and reigned over by the god of this world whom they serve!

If I were inclined to guess, I would guess that you cannot see (understand) the Kingdom Christ is ruling and reigning over since His resurrection, and ascension to heaven because you are consumed, therefore limited with physical sight! That's why like the Jews in unbelief you too are looking for physical fulfillment of the spiritual Kingdom of God on this sin cursed earth.

 

[tailgator]

I'm trying to show how you are forcing your doctrine into the text because you lack understanding. You think you have rightly divided the Word by taking verses out of context to promote your doctrine. You also fail to consider other passages from Scripture that do NOT support your doctrine. Look for example how you have done this with Mt 13:41-42.

Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The world (field) that now is a physical world where the Gospel is proclaimed to both the children of the Kingdom of God and the children of the wicked one. You use these two verses from Matthew trying to force Zechariah to fit your doctrine. But as the context shows us, Matthew does not say that Christ is reigning over this physical world of both the good and the wicked while the nations are being destroyed by fire as you assume. Matthew tells us there shall not be a destruction of the wicked by fire until the time comes for this physical world to come to an end. Matthew is speaking of what shall come in the end of the world. Matthew, nor Zechariah tell us there shall be more time given this world AFTER the Second Coming of Christ.

At the harvest, that shall be when the saints are resurrected from the graves with the saints still alive at His coming again shall be caught up (raptured) and their mortal bodies are changed to immortal and incorruptible bodies of flesh, fit for the new earth that shall be after this earth and all manner of evil is utterly destroyed by the fire of heaven that shall come when the Lord returns.

You appear to see everything written with physical sight and base your understanding on the physical. You ignore Christ telling us that His Kingdom is NOT NOW of this world, and cannot be seen with physical eyes, and the only way to gain entrance into that Kingdom of God that cannot be seen is "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"! That new birth, like the wind cannot be physical seen because the Kingdom of God that now is, is NOT physical but a spiritual Kingdom we obtain through the Spirit of Christ within us. Try reading the prophets of Old, like Zechariah with spiritual insight rather than looking at the physical that is ALL destined to destruction.

False

I am not taking anything out of context.
You are

Zech 14 is about the day of the Lord when the Lord comes and fights against his enemies.
The entire chapter is in context of this message and none of it should be taken out of context.

In context ,the message shows the nations coming against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord and the Lord going to fight against those nations and consuming them.
You take parts of the context and say it is past where other parts of context you say is future.
The fact is all of the context is future.On the day of the Lord the nations come against Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women ,then the Lord goes forth and fights with those nations causing the people of those nations to be consumed as they stand on their feet

You should stop accusing other people of doing what you are doing.Stop taking verses out of context and keep them as they are.Ypu will find that none of zech 14 has been fulfilled as the day of the Lord has not arrived yet.

 

[tailgator]

Christ rules and reigns over His people! Those in unbelief are ruled and reigned over by the god of this world whom they serve!

If I were inclined to guess, I would guess that you cannot see (understand) the Kingdom Christ is ruling and reigning over since His resurrection, and ascension to heaven because you are consumed, therefore limited with physical sight! That's why like the Jews in unbelief you too are looking for physical fulfillment of the spiritual Kingdom of God on this sin cursed earth.

As I said.You don't know what kingdom Christ is speaking of In this verse .


Mathew 13:41-42
The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil.
They will throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.


There are many such verses you do not understand because you do not know what kingdom he is speaking of in this verse.

 

[rwb]

False

I am not taking anything out of context.
You are

Zech 14 is about the day of the Lord when the Lord comes and fights against his enemies.
The entire chapter is in context of this message and none of it should be taken out of context.

In context ,the message shows the nations coming against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord and the Lord going to fight against those nations and consuming them.
You take parts of the context and say it is past where other parts of context you say is future.
The fact is all of the context is future.On the day of the Lord the nations come against Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women ,then the Lord goes forth and fights with those nations causing the people of those nations to be consumed as they stand on their feet

You should stop accusing other people of doing what you are doing.Stop taking verses out of context and keep them as they are.Ypu will find that none of zech 14 has been fulfilled as the day of the Lord has not arrived yet.

You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this Gospel age that is the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come. The only Day of the Lord to come is not that which the prophets of Old foretell, it is the ONE and final DAY the New Testament writers show us shall come when the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete!

 

[tailgator]

I'm trying to show how you are forcing your doctrine into the text because you lack understanding. You think you have rightly divided the Word by taking verses out of context to promote your doctrine. You also fail to consider other passages from Scripture that do NOT support your doctrine. Look for example how you have done this with Mt 13:41-42.

Matthew 13:37-43 (KJV) He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The world (field) that now is a physical world where the Gospel is proclaimed to both the children of the Kingdom of God and the children of the wicked one. You use these two verses from Matthew trying to force Zechariah to fit your doctrine. But as the context shows us, Matthew does not say that Christ is reigning over this physical world of both the good and the wicked while the nations are being destroyed by fire as you assume. Matthew tells us there shall not be a destruction of the wicked by fire until the time comes for this physical world to come to an end. Matthew is speaking of what shall come in the end of the world. Matthew, nor Zechariah tell us there shall be more time given this world AFTER the Second Coming of Christ.

At the harvest, that shall be when the saints are resurrected from the graves with the saints still alive at His coming again shall be caught up (raptured) and their mortal bodies are changed to immortal and incorruptible bodies of flesh, fit for the new earth that shall be after this earth and all manner of evil is utterly destroyed by the fire of heaven that shall come when the Lord returns.

You appear to see everything written with physical sight and base your understanding on the physical. You ignore Christ telling us that His Kingdom is NOT NOW of this world, and cannot be seen with physical eyes, and the only way to gain entrance into that Kingdom of God that cannot be seen is "YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN"! That new birth, like the wind cannot be physically seen because the Kingdom of God that now is, is NOT physical but a spiritual Kingdom we obtain through the Spirit of Christ within us. Try reading the prophets of Old, like Zechariah with spiritual insight rather than looking at the physical that is ALL destined to destruction.

Well,while you take the remainder of your life attempting to fly up into heaven,I will plot my course to the east to a location you never dreamed of

Mathew 8:11-12
I say to you that many will come from the east and the west, and will take their places at the feast with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob in the kingdom of heaven.
But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”


I'm sure by your own admission,you will not be traveling east or west.

 

[tailgator]

You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this Gospel age that is the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come. The only Day of the Lord to come is not that which the prophets of Old foretell, it is the ONE and final DAY the New Testament writers show us shall come when the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete!

No the day of the Lord is which he destroys the sinners out of the land has not come.

None of this was fulfilled as Jesus was born in a manger.

9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.



You've got to be the only person in this world who preaches the wise men couldn't see a star when Jesus was born because you preach no stars could be seen as in verse 10.

 

[tailgator]

You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this Gospel age that is the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come. The only Day of the Lord to come is not that which the prophets of Old foretell, it is the ONE and final DAY the New Testament writers show us shall come when the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete!

Good grief

As Herod plotted to kill Jesus ,you preach all sinners were destroyed when Jesus was born.Then Herod goes on a killing spree.


9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

 

[tailgator]

You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this Gospel age that is the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come. The only Day of the Lord to come is not that which the prophets of Old foretell, it is the ONE and final DAY the New Testament writers show us shall come when the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete!

And you believe this was fulfilled when Jesus was born.You have no idea what great tribulation is to take place on the day of the Lord.


Zephaniah 1
14 The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.

15 That day is a day of wrath, a day of trouble and distress, a day of wasteness and desolation, a day of darkness and gloominess, a day of clouds and thick darkness,

16 A day of the trumpet and alarm against the fenced cities, and against the high towers.

17 And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the Lord: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.

18 Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.

 

[tailgator]

You say you're looking for the Day of the Lord to come. Sadly, like the unbelieving Jews of Old, you are ignoring the FACT that the Day of the Lord has already come! It came when Christ came to earth a man. All that is written of Old concerning Him has been and is being fulfilled during this Gospel age that is the Day of the Lord the prophets foretell would come. The only Day of the Lord to come is not that which the prophets of Old foretell, it is the ONE and final DAY the New Testament writers show us shall come when the spiritual Kingdom of God is complete!

Sadly ,like the unbelieving Jews,you too have rejected the word of God spoken by the prophets and apostles.


1 Thes 5:2
5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

 

[PGS11]

Your not the first I've seen who believes Jesus Christ is antisemitic because Jesus said the Jewish leaders would kill his disciples.

It's not antisemitic to preach God's word.

Mathew 23:34
Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town.


You only believe gentiles can oppose christ .Your love for the beast has blinded you to the truth Jesus speaks.

Where do I say Jesus is antisemitic I said the poster likely has antisemitic views coming from the devil obviously he does not like Israel.Jesus was a Jew with Israelite blood he was celebrating pass over at the last supper. Pretty stupid to hate his blood line and want them destroyed unless your looking to go to hell.

 

[Zao is life]

So many people ignore the word of God concerning the attack on Babylon.False teachers leading others who do not study ,to believe Iran wants to destroy Italy.Its not Italy which Iran wants to destroy,it's Israel.

Scripture shows that Babylon is attacked on the day of the Lord,the houses will be ransacked and the women raped.




Isaiah 13
9 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.

10 For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.

11 And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.


Isaiah 13
16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.



Scripture also shows all those nations which attack Babylon ransacking the houses and raping the women come against Jerusalem on the day of the Lord ransacking the houses and raping the women.


Zech 14
14 Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.

2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.




How do these false teachers explain all the nations being in Jerusalem ransacking the houses and raping the women when they preach they will be in Italy ransacking the houses and raping the women on the day of the Lord?


Common sense.
Iran does not want , nor will it attack Italy.It attacks Israel on the day of the Lord.


Isaiah 13
17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.


Medes were an Iranian people who lived where Tehran is today.On the day of the Lord ,the Medes attack Babylon.They are not going to be anywhere around Italy.

"Apostate Israel is Babylon: Common sense".

If only it were common sense:

Post # 56 no evidence in the Revelation for either Jerusalem of the Jews or The Vatican or any other city with physical boundaries unless someone chooses to ADD that to the Revelation.

 

[tailgator]

Where do I say Jesus is antisemitic I said the poster likely has antisemitic views coming from the devil obviously he does not like Israel.Jesus was a Jew with Israelite blood he was celebrating pass over at the last supper. Pretty stupid to hate his blood line and want them destroyed unless your looking to go to hell.

Because Jesus is the one who teaches us it is the Jews who kill his disciples throughout the gospel.

You really have to ignore Jesus and worship the beast to not be able to hear what Jesus says.


Mathew 23:35
And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.


Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.



Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth.To say otherwise would be like calling Jesus a liar.

 

[tailgator]

Where do I say Jesus is antisemitic I said the poster likely has antisemitic views coming from the devil obviously he does not like Israel.Jesus was a Jew with Israelite blood he was celebrating pass over at the last supper. Pretty stupid to hate his blood line and want them destroyed unless your looking to go to hell.

You call.the children of the devil Jesus blood line.

John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.


It is from Christ that I got my eyes to see with.
While the christians in Israel are being persecuted from city to city ,you will be cheering the Jews on and supporting them whole heartedly just like you do now.

 

[tailgator]

"Apostate Israel is Babylon: Common sense".

If only it were common sense:

Post # 56 no evidence in the Revelation for either Jerusalem of the Jews or The Vatican or any other city with physical boundaries unless someone chooses to ADD that to the Revelation.

Who did Jesus say was responsible for all the righteous blood shed upon earth?


Revelation 18:24
And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.


Are you willing to except what Jesus said or do you reject his word?

 

[TribulationSigns]

.Jerusalem is responsible for ALL the righteous blood shed upon earth.To say otherwise would be like calling Jesus a liar.

A physical city is responsible for the blood of the Saints? You have no understanding who woman represents. Not physical city!

The unfaithful woman represents those who are corporately part of the Holy City - the ungenerated professed believers who have wage spiritual war with the saints all over the world. Nothing to do with physical stones and walls in Jerusalem. Selah!