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Remember, God is allowing them to post what they post ,he allows me to post what I also post, do you believe he allows everything for a reason?
I do believe God is not only allowing these posts to be posted but has ordained them as part of His plan.

What a fantastic truth hey. A comfort to one's soul. I love the Sovereign Creators Who are orchestrating everything for the sake of Their pleasure. To appreciate the manifestation of Their wisdom and to even participate in this never ending process is incredible! Love it!!
 

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When YOU use the term God's word are you meaning the bible or every word that comes from the mouth of God?
Mat 4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.

There is nowhere in the word that says, downloads into me?

It’s confusing and makes no sense, I just thank God that you are not able to preach like this in church, ....I’m mature enough to understand that what you preach isn’t biblical..

You will never get me agreeing with anything that is outside the confines of the Bible.

Obviously not every word that comes out of God's mouth has been written down in the 66, 73 or even the 81 book bible.

Please click to expand my post to you, for some reason I’m unable to quote your post.

Everything that we need to grow and mature comes from the Bible....what I mean is, everything that we receive by divine revelation, needs to be checked out with scripture...how would you know that you were Born Again, if you didn’t check the divine revelation that you believe that you received by consulting the word.

I’m still waiting for you to explain this context business to me?
 

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@One 2 question

You said you don’t need to read the Bible to know when God downloads something to you?

You 100% know it’s from God...I ask you again...how would you know it’s from God?
 

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I don't need to consult anything. I just received what the Spirit downloads into me. And where there is any consultation requiredI consult a Person (Spirit) not an inanimate thing (bible).


Here we go again, are you denying that the word of God, was not written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?

The Spirit downloads nothing into you, that is not from the Bible, those are your words and that’s why they are confusing....not to me they aren’t ,because I know in my spirit those are not the words of God...to a new babe, most certainly.they would be confusing.

What purpose is the Bible for then?
 

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Please click to expand my post to you, for some reason I’m unable to quote your post.

Everything that we need to grow and mature comes from the Bible....what I mean is, everything that we receive by divine revelation, needs to be checked out with scripture...how would you know that you were Born Again, if you didn’t check the divine revelation that you believe that you received by consulting the word.

I’m still waiting for you to explain this context business to me?

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You said you don’t need to read the Bible to know when God downloads something to you?

You 100% know it’s from God...I ask you again...how would you know it’s from God?
I have known God for decades. He has been revealing truths to me by revelation over this time. From the members of the Church, through the bible and now directly from Christ through the Spirit.

I acknowledge that within the pages of the bible are words that have proceeded from the mouth of God. But obviously not all. Nor has every word in the bible proceeded out of the mouth of God. Which you would obviously agree with, being a believer of what is written in the bible.
 

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Here we go again, are you denying that the word of God, was not written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit?
What do you mean by the term, under the inspiration of God?
The Spirit downloads nothing into you, that is not from the Bible, those are your words and that’s why they are confusing....not to me they aren’t ,because I know in my spirit those are not the words of God...to a new babe, most certainly.they would be confusing.
I am so glad that God has chosen to have Christ redeem me and to have Their Spirit download truth into my spirit. Some of these truths may be the same as in the bible, others that the bible cannot confirm as it isn't in its pages.
What purpose is the Bible for then?
It has various purposes. Depends on who is using it. That's what I've observed.
 

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I am so glad that God has chosen to have Christ redeem me and to have Their Spirit download truth into my spirit. Some of these truths may be the same as in the bible, others that the bible cannot confirm as it isn't in its pages


That is not how God says we are “ Born Again “....that is your testimony and what “ you” believe to be true.

Therefore no point in discussing with you any further, you have been unable to back up anything you have said about God, using scripture...

Especially regarding the “ downloading “ his truth into your spirit ...I will leave it there, have a nice day.

I’m just glad that hearing from God by divine revelation....I always check out what I hear with the Bible....if what I heard isn’t there, then it wasn’t from God....my opinion and belief.
 
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That is not how God says we are “ Born Again “....that is your testimony and what “ you” believe to be true.

Therefore no point in discussing with you any further, you have been unable to back up anything you have said about God, using scripture...

Especially regarding the “ downloading “ his truth into your spirit ...I will leave it there, have a nice day.

I’m just glad that hearing from God by divine revelation....I always check out what I hear with the Bible....if what I heard isn’t there, then it wasn’t from God....
Yet you agreed that not every word that proceeds from the mouth of God is in the bible. So there must be more words that have come out of His mouth that the Spirit reveals.

For if everything Jesus said was written down maybe the whole world couldn't contain the books.
Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.

The Spirit leads us into a bit, a lot or all truth?

Jhn 16:12,13 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.
Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth.

All truth...that proceeds from the mouth of God.
 

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You can read and quote the bible to me.

Because I don't read the bible doesn’t mean I oppose its contents.

Maybe it's like this. Just because I don't drink the milk from my mother's breast any more doesn't mean I don't appreciate the practice of a babies breastfeeding and seeing babies progress to solids.

It's just that I don't require breast milk from my mother any more. But if you or others do than go for it.

I enjoy getting solids now and that via other means.
The bible not being one of them.
I think it's easy to understand.

You do not read the Bible. You do not then know what is in the Bible. You therefore cannot ever debate,discuss,what you know nothing about.
 
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That is not how God says we are “ Born Again “....that is your testimony and what “ you” believe to be true.
I'm thinking when you use the term born again you are refering to the record of Jesus's conversation with Nicodemus....
Jhn 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

Jhn 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Jhn 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Jhn 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Jhn 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Jhn 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
 

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I think it's easy to understand.

You do not read the Bible. You do not then know what is in the Bible. You therefore cannot ever debate,discuss,what you know nothing about.


Well said...that’s exactly why I have ceased conversation with him...he tells his own story and can’t back it up by using scripture.

God is not a God of confusion....the stories the 2 of them tell, are full of confusion...as we can read/ see.
 
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I'm thinking when you use the term born again you are refering to the record of Jesus's conversation with Nicodemus....
Jhn 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

Jhn 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

Jhn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

Jhn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

Jhn 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Jhn 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Jhn 3:9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

Jhn 3:10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Jhn 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

Jhn 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

Jhn 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

Jhn 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

Jhn 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Jhn 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Jhn 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

Jhn 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

Jhn 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

Jhn 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.
What exactly are you asking me? I might need some clarification.
 

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I think it's easy to understand.

You do not read the Bible. You do not then know what is in the Bible. You therefore cannot ever debate,discuss,what you know nothing about.
If someone isn't presently in Disneyland but has not only been there but has worked there for decades, can it be said that he does not then know what is in Disneyland. He therefore cannot ever debate, discuss, what he knows nothing about.
 

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One 2 question...did you actually read my post...I have nothing further to discuss with you, I gave my reasons.

No good going round on the merry go round.
That's your choice. I was just answering your question and referencing the bible as you asked.
 

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Isn’t the Bible a wonderful gift of Spirit knowledge.our spirit food...forever growing in the word of God.

Leading us and guiding us by his word the Bible..



◄ 1 Peter 1 ►
Berean Standard Bible Par ▾
A Greeting from Peter
(2 Peter 1:1–2)
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,

To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood:

Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

A Living Hope
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.

12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.

A Call to Holiness
(Hebrews 12:14–17)
13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d

17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake.

21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God.

The Enduring Word
(Isaiah 40:6–8)
22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For,

“All flesh is like grass,
and all its glory like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f
And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.
 
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Well said...that’s exactly why I have ceased conversation with him...he tells his own story and can’t back it up by using scripture.

God is not a God of confusion....the stories the 2 of them tell, are full of confusion...as we can read/ see.
I'm more that happy to reference the bible if that's what you want. I've studied it for decades. Plus whatever one needs from the bible one can easily use Google to find it.

There's no confusion my end.
 

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Isn’t the Bible a wonderful gift of Spirit knowledge.our spirit food...forever growing in the word of God.

Leading us and guiding us by his word the Bible..



◄ 1 Peter 1 ►
Berean Standard Bible Par ▾
A Greeting from Peter
(2 Peter 1:1–2)
1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,

To the elect who are exiles of the Dispersion throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia, chosena 2according to the foreknowledge of God the Father and sanctified by the Spirit for obedience to Jesus Christ and sprinkling by His blood:

Grace and peace be yours in abundance.

A Living Hope
3Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ! By His great mercy He has given us new birthb into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4and into an inheritance that is imperishable, undefiled, and unfading, reserved in heaven for you, 5who through faith are shielded by God’s power for the salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.

6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while you may have had to suffer grief in various trials 7so that the proven character of your faith—more precious than gold, which perishes even though refined by fire—may result in praise, glory, and honor at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

8Though you have not seen Him, you love Him; and though you do not see Him now, you believe in Him and rejoice with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9now that you are receiving the goal of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

10Concerning this salvation, the prophets who foretold the grace to come to you searched and investigated carefully, 11trying to determine the time and setting to which the Spirit of Christ in them was pointing when He predicted the sufferings of Christ and the glories to follow.

12It was revealed to them that they were not serving themselves, but you, when they foretold the things now announced by those who preached the gospel to you by the Holy Spirit sent from heaven. Even angels long to look into these things.

A Call to Holiness
(Hebrews 12:14–17)
13Therefore prepare your minds for action.c Be sober-minded. Set your hope fully on the grace to be given you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14As obedient children, do not conform to the passions of your former ignorance. 15But just as He who called you is holy, so be holy in all you do, 16for it is written: “Be holy, because I am holy.”d

17Since you call on a Father who judges each one’s work impartially, conduct yourselves in reverent fear during your stay as foreigners. 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers, 19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake.

21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God.

The Enduring Word
(Isaiah 40:6–8)
22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.e 23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God. 24For,

“All flesh is like grass,
and all its glory like the flowers of the field;
the grass withers and the flowers fall,
25but the word of the Lord stands forever.”f
And this is the word that was proclaimed to you.
Yes, the word of the Lord stands forever. But obviously the bible doesn't contain all of the words of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Jhn 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written.
 
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