AND THEY SHALL ALL BE TAUGHT OF GOD

[amigo de christo]

Just a quick question.

If a person or an Angel or the Spirit of God shows you from the bible that what you currently believe doesn't line up with what's written in the bible you would concede and believe the new revelation?

If the truth in that bible proves me wrong , Then WRONG i am . But lets not twist it shall we .
WHEN i say one ought to be in that bible and reading it for themselves , believe you me
that is not gonna contradict what is written in the scrips .
However at times folks can think it might .
for example when i say we ought to be reading the bible
one might answer and say , HEY we would be praying too . TO which i would say , OF COURSE
we should pray , even says so IN THE BIBLE that we should .
But you go ahead my friend , bring what you think will disprove what i say about the dire importance of reading
the scrips for ourselves .

 

[amigo de christo]

So God writes a command, Do not kill which He has Moses deliver to His people.

God later speaks a command to Joshua to kill which he delivers to His people.

Which command of God should Caleb obey? According to you Caleb should have said to Joshua, YA AINT HEARING FROM GOD my friend .

talk about twisted misconceptions to try and prove an error my friend .
Its like when folks try and say JESUS spoke contradictions too .
I mean HE said he who does not hate his mother or father ........
and so they try and use that line to show he contradicts where he says TO EVEN love your enemies .
BUT again its they who misunderstand .
When JESUS said he who hates not , its very clear he means You cannot put anyone BEFORE HIM , to love them BEFORE HIM .
but folks always think they see contradictions .
WHEN In fact its but a lack of understanding on their part . Just as your example of THOU shall not kill
and the example of GOD telling Joshua to destroy , to kill the armies . HUGE difference there buddy .
But again , men who often like to heed twisted doctrines of men like to twist and omit HIS teachings . Just saying .

 

[Karl Peters]

your dear brother has been busy sister . I imagine a pitchfork party will soon come for me sister .
But when or if it do and this brother be excommunicated from this site
ALWAYS remember this . I NEVER POINTED TO ME . ALL I did was try and get folks back into the bible
all i did was REMIND ALL of the DIRE NEED TO BELIEVE ON JESUS THE CHRIST
and i never once gave out false hope. You remember that sister .
But weep not for me if this occurs . YOU weep for the lost . weep and weep for the lost .
ALL I ever desired was good for people . EVEN Those who came against me most .
I KNOW from whence i came sister . AND THERE WASNT NUTTING GOOD in me either .
I KNOW GOD changed my heart , and gave me the ONLY GOODNESS i even have .
AND I KNOW ITS BIBLE TIME TOO . cause i am weeping as i watch a lot of even christendom fall prey to a lie .

Didn't you just write:

fantasy kills

And you come back with "I imagine"????

The Lord speaks the truth but He also speaks in parables and dark saying and that because some don't hear from Him.

Ps 78:2 I will open my mouth in a parable;
I will utter dark sayings of old,

Mat 13:13 “Therefore I speak to them in parables; because while seeing they do not see, and while hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand.

So did you actually check with the Lord Jesus Christ and hearing what He has to say before responding to One 2 question?

Did you not just lean on your own understanding and called it the truth?

Did not One 2 question give you a saying/parable so that with your ears you would hear - or did you not read:

Is 6:9,10 He said, “Go, and tell this people:
‘Keep on listening, but do not perceive;
Keep on looking, but do not understand.’
“Render the hearts of this people insensitive,
Their ears dull,
And their eyes dim,
Otherwise they might see with their eyes,
Hear with their ears,
Understand with their hearts,
And return and be healed.”

What then did One 2 question mean by writing:

We are going to develop the heavens in the future. The existing planets will be not only be restored but completed.

If he heard form the Lord, who told pilot that His realm is not of this world, then the heavens in the future does not concern the physical heavens, as in the cosmos, which you think but a realm not of this world. And if you do ever actually get into the Kingdom of heaven (that spiritual realm where God, who is spirit, dwells) so that you are like the angels in heaven, then are you then not going to be a part of developing it in the future, like in some way you are a part of developing this world now? So the next part has nothing to do with physical planets like the earth we know now, but is about something that will be restored and completed at that time. Do you still not understand? Did you not read:

Prov 2:6 For the LORD gives wisdom; From His mouth come knowledge and understanding.

You didn't listen to the words of God that comes from His mouth via the Holy Spirit, but you leaned on your understanding of the Scriptures, so the what Jesus said after what He said, as recorded in Mat 13:13, that I gave you above now apply to you personally, becaue unlike His disciples, you didn't go to Him for an explanation of the sayings and parable! And check it out, Mat 13:14,15 apply to you:

Mat 13:14,15 In their case the prophecy of Isaiah is being fulfilled, which says,
‘YOU WILL KEEP ON HEARING, BUT WILL NOT UNDERSTAND;
YOU WILL KEEP ON SEEING, BUT WILL NOT PERCEIVE;
FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,
OTHERWISE THEY WOULD SEE WITH THEIR EYES,
HEAR WITH THEIR EARS,
AND UNDERSTAND WITH THEIR HEART AND RETURN,
AND I WOULD HEAL THEM.’

And that just happens to be the same thing said to Isaiah, as in instruction to him when he listened to the Lord!

But of His disciples who do ask Him and listen, it was written:

Mat 13:16 “But blessed are your eyes, because they see; and your ears, because they hear.

And all that is explained in the Bible you are putting your trust in, and you still did not understand.

What gets " will be not only be restored but completed" in heaven. Is it not the believers? So then if the Lord Jesus Christ is out light and the center of what we circle around in heaven, then are not those who listen to Him like planets and are they not only be restored but completed when they get to the realm, heaven, that we are looking forward to?

Have you not read:

Prov 1:1-8To know wisdom and instruction,
To discern the sayings of understanding,
To receive instruction in wise behavior,
Righteousness, justice and equity;
To give prudence to the naive,
To the youth knowledge and discretion,
A wise man will hear and increase in learning,
And a man of understanding will acquire wise counsel,
To understand a proverb and a figure,
The words of the wise and their riddles.
The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge;
Fools despise wisdom and instruction.
Hear, my son, your father’s instruction
And do not forsake your mother’s teaching;

And that brings us back to being taught by God - as opposed to leaning on your own understanding!!

The Truth is Jesus Christ, but He will talk to you in parables and have others, like Isaiah, do it also, but that so that those who really believe in Him will ask Him the meaning, and cause those who don't listen to Him but operate by their own pride to lean on their own understanding!

How long are you going to deny that Jesus Christ is the Word of God and that you find His words near you, in your mouth and in your heart, so that you actually seek Him?

 

[One 2 question]

talk about twisted misconceptions to try and prove an error my friend .
Its like when folks try and say JESUS spoke contradictions too .
I mean HE said he who does not hate his mother or father ........
and so they try and use that line to show he contradicts where he says TO EVEN love your enemies .
BUT again its they who misunderstand .
When JESUS said he who hates not , its very clear he means You cannot put anyone BEFORE HIM , to love them BEFORE HIM .
but folks always think they see contradictions .
WHEN In fact its but a lack of understanding on their part . Just as your example of THOU shall not kill
and the example of GOD telling Joshua to destroy , to kill the armies . HUGE difference there buddy .
But again , men who often like to heed twisted doctrines of men like to twist and omit HIS teachings . Just saying .

Are you ok to, as some say, compare scripture with scripture. I've given scripture and compared it with scripture.


You haven't compared the scripture I've quoted with any scripture but your own opinion.

I'm not refering to other folks, but ask you to respond to what scripture I quoted.

Thanks.

 

[Karl Peters]

So God writes a command, Do not kill which He has Moses deliver to His people.

God later speaks a command to Joshua to kill which he delivers to His people.

Which command of God should Caleb obey? According to you Caleb should have said to Joshua, YA AINT HEARING FROM GOD my friend .

What you wrote makes perfectly good since to the believer, because it means it is not up to us and our understanding to make a decision like killing a person. Yet if God does actually command it, then it is the right thing to do.

That is of course is obvious, that God can the creator can destroy what He created. But it is not ours to make that decision. And that applies to much more than just killing. Does God even need me to kill? He told me that He was not going to ask me to murder. Yet in the above story the irony is the Moses, who the Lord have bring the command, was in fact a murderer. So not only can God give the command but also forgive the failure to keep the command. Yet Moses was used because He turn from is path to seek the Lord, and thus wound up hearing the Lord and even being taught by Him, personally.

So the only logical choice for us is to seek the voice of the Lord, and reject leaning on our own understanding - not that we do that like we should, but that knowing that we should seek the Lord enables the Lord to do what He needs to do in our lives.

Yet the comment about that post was:

talk about twisted misconceptions to try and prove an error my friend .
Its like when folks try and say JESUS spoke contradictions too .

Clearly you didn't twist what was written but clearly referred to what was written, and that to point out that amigo de christo needs to actually hear from God to know God. But the concept of hearing God cannot be accepted by amigo de christo, so it is he that clearly "talked about misconceptions, so is in error.

And that is so that by doing the work of God you are like a worker who separates the caff, which is blown away, by throwing it into the wind.

 

[One 2 question]

What gets " will be not only be restored but completed" in heaven. Is it not the believers? So then if the Lord Jesus Christ is out light and the center of what we circle around in heaven, then are not those who listen to Him like planets and are they not only be restored but completed when they get to the realm, heaven, that we are looking forward to?

This resonates with me brother. Another layer of truth that I haven't seen before,
'those who listen to Him are like planets and are not only going to be restored but completed when they get to the realm that we are looking forward to?'

 

[Ritajanice]

@Karl Peters wrote.

. Our lives are just not made up of what's written in the Bible

I say, I never said they were.


When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

You say hearing God is not by divine revelation/ heart revelation/ witnessing his truth to your spirit, ..that’s the only way that we can communicate with God, via his Spirit as we are his spirit children.

We must be Born Of God’s seed.

He doesn’t communicate with us like a human does...he communicates Spirit to spirit.

Your teachings/ preaching is not biblical.

You say he talks to you from heaven, then that must be by divine revelation....how are we we Born Of Gods seed if not by divine revelation.

Do you actually know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed?

People need to know, that you are teaching contrary to the Bible.

You say when we are Born Again ,we hear the wind, not true....God will never contradict what we receive by divine revelation in his Written word.

We are led by the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the teachings of Karl Peters.

Thankfully, I don’t believe anyone takes on board what you write mostly, as it’s from your own testimony/ opinions and beliefs....you don’t teach the word of God....

What church would accept the utter confusion you post on this forum imo, most of the time, ..

What church would accept your teachings that you post on here..imo, not one.

You are a self confessed dangerous, confused , self taught believer..

Now, rather than argue with you as you would all day every day..I will cease posting on this thread.

I wouldn’t listen to you if you were the last person on the planet,I thank God that I test the spirits also.

If you notice Karl Peters will argue all day every day, look how he won’t stop forcing “ HIS” own opinions onto me.....how many pages has he quoted me?....it’s consistent/ FORCEFUL.....

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.



........therefore in my opinion he doesn’t understand the written word, it doesn’t penetrate his heart/ spirit ....maybe if he reads this scripture enough he might hear what God is saying, that it might penetrate his heart/ spirit that he may have the spiritual eyes to see the words....... and the spiritual ears to hear the Lord witnessing these truths to our hearts/ spirit.

What does God say about arguing?..would Jesus have spoken like Karl Peters?

Christians should not quarrel or engage in foolish arguments: 2Timothy 2:22-26 says, Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.


Is Karl Peters doing any of the above ...as a teacher ?......that’s what he’s confessing is he not?
..is he not standing up and teaching contrary to the word/ Bible?


No way am I any teacher....yet Karl Peters believes he is, is his teachings like the way Jesus would have taught?....does the Holy Spirit teach us like Karl Peters does on this thread?
Does the Bible not explain how we should treat each other?

Does the Bible not teach about the flesh/ the carnal mind....being led by the Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that the Spirit witnesses with our spirit that we are Gods children?


Have a good day...my last post, thank you Lord, imo, for uncovering this self taught man, who thinks the Bible is irrelevant, for growing and maturing in the spirit...

My opinion / testimony/ belief.

 

[Karl Peters]

You cannot put anyone BEFORE HIM

We can and do certainly put others before Him, otherwise we would be the Word of God.
Yet 'amigo de christo' cannot even see that he puts others before the Lord as proven by the fact that He does not listen to the Lord as the Word of God and Great I Am. Which is to say we tend to put ourselves before Him! To make any progress in that regard a person must first realize the we can and do put others, even ourselves, before God anytime we don't actually seek Him and listen to Him personally. That includes searching the Scriptures before hearing Him.

Saul the Pharisees did not see this problem, but Paul the Christian writer of Scriptures wrote:

Rom 7:19 For the good that I want, I do not do, but I practice the very evil that I do not want.
and
Rom 7:21 I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wants to do good.

To do good, we should understand that means actually seeking the voice of the Lord and do what He tells us, because only God is good. So to do good we must hear from the Lord and do what He asks, otherwise we are putting someone (us) before God.

And if anyone loves God they would listen to Him who is standing at the door and knocking with His voice. - Of course there is also something about some pretending obedience.

And even writing:

BUT again its they who misunderstand

Again shows the misunderstanding of the amigo de christo. He should have "we who misunderstand" then again He would have show that He has understanding, but by excluding himself from that statement he showed He does not listen to Understanding.

That is to say the God is Understanding, and since we are not God we should realize that understanding is not our understanding but Him! If we have Him and listen to Him, we have Understanding, but as for us, all of us, we operate in 'misunderstanding'. We can have the Lord in us, but our position is that of 'misunderstanding'. We are not God and can not know the depths of God, though we can know God via Jesus Christ, who as the Word of God is God. So we can listen to Understanding (Jesus Christ speaking to us via His Holy Spirit) but our thinking only leads to misunderstanding, because we are not Him. Therefore, amigo de christo should have included himself whose thinking - like the rest of us - is misunderstanding.

Prov 7:4 Say to wisdom, “You are my sister,”
And call understanding your intimate friend;

What amigo de christo fails to realize that he puts himself before God every time he does not seek the voice of the Lord, but leans on his own understanding. If he was to realize that, he would seek the voice of the Lord more often. But in doing that we would discover how far off he is from being perfect (Jesus Christ) by doing and saying only what God tells him. So that like Paul; as opposed to that Pharisee Saul, he would be saying - Rom 7:24 Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from the body of this death?

But as it is he says "they who misunderstand" and not "they who misunderstand" - and because of the same issue he writes "You cannot put anyone BEFORE HIM", instead of realizing that we can and co put, even ourselves, BEFORE HIM.

Have we not read:

1 Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us.

So our message is that "WE, need to listen to Him." - Still it was written about some,
Mat 13:15 "FOR THE HEART OF THIS PEOPLE HAS BECOME DULL,
WITH THEIR EARS THEY SCARCELY HEAR,
AND THEY HAVE CLOSED THEIR EYES,

The person who realizes that was written to us, is the person who will seek the voice of the Lord more and listen more, but still you will find that 'SCARCELY HEAR', can apply to you. I am sorry to say that I only hear from the Lord about a dozen times a day. Yet I have talked about hearing from the Lord a dozen times a day and have had people think I am boasting or lying. I know better. Only hearing from the Great I Am a dozen times a day is poor, and I should do better. Still, I can tell people what He tells me.

He asked me to go on a walk this morning where He talked to me about my son's soccer team. He later asked me to call my son, then my daughter, then my mom. I had some time today to contact them, which is not always the case, but it was Friday. Later He had me invite my wife to lunch, and there was an interesting teaching He discussed then, but now I am having trouble remembering what it was. And later He asked me to go to the store and for a couple of specific things, and added to the list while there for my wife's sake. And on the trip to the store He talked to me about how doing the work of God was like throwing wheat into the air and separating the chaff. What/who He wants are those who listen to Him, and the others will be blown away when I talk about listening to Him. And He will burn up the chaff, He explained.

"The work of God is that all should come to know Him, but those without ears to hear land else where", He explained.

 

[Karl Peters]

This resonates with me brother. Another layer of truth that I haven't seen before,
'those who listen to Him are like planets and are not only going to be restored but completed when they get to the realm that we are looking forward to?'

Yes if course - you had a really good word, but it of course was as a dark saying so anyone not going to Jesus Christ for understanding would not get it. That is the chaff, and they are blown away and will be burned on that day.

He has had me post on this forum often, but it is hard to find someone who hears Him as well as you do. Of course you would know that too. Still I appreciate it. After all, He once told me:

THE BEST LISTENERS MAKE THE BEST TEACHERS.

and

A MAN THAT LISTENS TO GOD IS AS RARE AS DIAMONDS IN THE ROCK.

So I have enjoyed your writings. Thanks for listening to Him

 

[One 2 question]

Yes if course - you had a really good word, but it of course was as a dark saying so anyone not going to Jesus Christ for understanding would not get it. That is the chaff, and they are blown away and will be burned on that day.

He has had me post on this forum often, but it is hard to find someone who hears Him as well as you do. Of course you would know that too. Still I appreciate it. After all, He once told me:

THE BEST LISTENERS MAKE THE BEST TEACHERS.

and

A MAN THAT LISTENS TO GOD IS AS RARE AS DIAMONDS IN THE ROCK.

So I have enjoyed your writings. Thanks for listening to Him

Thanks for your words of encouragement.

I'm appreciating being questioned and even challenged these days as it brings me back to the Spirit. He has been consistent with His delivery of new revelations.

Making time to tune into His station as it were has never brought silence on His part. He seems to be waiting for me to get alone with Him, to sit before Him so I can hear what He has received from Christ specifically for me and my situation.

I would like to exercise greater disciple in regard to setting time aside to be alone with Him without distractions. We often have a great time together when I do. Often in the bush/woods.

Do you have a usual place to be alone with Him?

 

[Karl Peters]

Thanks for your words of encouragement.

I'm appreciating being questioned and even challenged these days as it brings me back to the Spirit. He has been consistent with His delivery of new revelations.

Making time to tune into His station as it were has never brought silence on His part. He seems to be waiting for me to get alone with Him, to sit before Him so I can hear what He has received from Christ specifically for me and my situation.

I would like to exercise greater disciple in regard to setting time aside to be alone with Him without distractions. We often have a great time together when I do. Often in the bush/woods.

Do you have a usual place to be alone with Him?

Yeah - I have a place I get alone with Him every morning. It is my favorite recliner chair. I pray the Lord's prayer and a number of additions like, the prayer of Jabez, praying for Jerusalem, our leaders, elders, enemies, and He told me that I needed to pray for humility because of how He was going to use me. So I do that also. And then the important part, which is turning my ears to Him and listening to Him. As you know, but too many posting hear do not know, is that the Lord speaks. He speaks via His Holy Spirit talking to our spirit, but we can even pick it up in words in our spirit. Which is why those who wrote the Scriptures were able to write in words and wrote things like: 'The word of the Lord came to me saying'.

Of course you know all this, and it is obvious. Those who don't listen to Him, but get into 'Christianity' and so post on this problem generally have a problem. The problem is that they replace knowing Jesus Christ with knowing the Scriptures. That simply means they have made an idol out of the Bible, and that actually gets in the way of knowing Jesus Christ because they make the Bible the word of God to them and so don't seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, via the Holy Spirit.

Which brings me to something we really need to get out there. And that is that HE is always with us, and always willing to talk to us, if we just seek Him. So while it is indeed easier to hear from Him in my chair at home, He is also easy to hear from while drive in the chair in my car. Also I love taking a walk where Him and I talk to each other. It is easy to hear from Him then. If I go into a restaurant by myself, I find it is easy to hear from Him there also. Then you find out that you can listen to Him at work, at the mall, and everywhere. Maybe the easiest place to hear from Him is at church. All I have to do is go, sit, and listen, because His presence is greater when more than one are gathered in His name - yet still so many posting on this site, this Christian Forum, don't understand this. They go to church, listen to someone behind the podium saying that the Bible is the word of God, thereby pointing them away from listening to Him and to making the Bible an idol.

So it was the He has told me personally:

"Karl, I want you to preach the word, but not as it is so often preached Today. I want you to preach I AM the Word of God." - and when He said "I AM" it those words hit me with power so that I started stumbling toward the floor and had to catch myself on the cabinet.

 

[amigo de christo]

Yeah - I have a place I get alone with Him every morning. It is my favorite recliner chair. I pray the Lord's prayer and a number of additions like, the prayer of Jabez, praying for Jerusalem, our leaders, elders, enemies, and He told me that I needed to pray for humility because of how He was going to use me. So I do that also. And then the important part, which is turning my ears to Him and listening to Him. As you know, but too many posting hear do not know, is that the Lord speaks. He speaks via His Holy Spirit talking to our spirit, but we can even pick it up in words in our spirit. Which is why those who wrote the Scriptures were able to write in words and wrote things like: 'The word of the Lord came to me saying'.

Of course you know all this, and it is obvious. Those who don't listen to Him, but get into 'Christianity' and so post on this problem generally have a problem. The problem is that they replace knowing Jesus Christ with knowing the Scriptures. That simply means they have made an idol out of the Bible, and that actually gets in the way of knowing Jesus Christ because they make the Bible the word of God to them and so don't seek Jesus Christ and listen to Him, via the Holy Spirit.

Which brings me to something we really need to get out there. And that is that HE is always with us, and always willing to talk to us, if we just seek Him. So while it is indeed easier to hear from Him in my chair at home, He is also easy to hear from while drive in the chair in my car. Also I love taking a walk where Him and I talk to each other. It is easy to hear from Him then. If I go into a restaurant by myself, I find it is easy to hear from Him there also. Then you find out that you can listen to Him at work, at the mall, and everywhere. Maybe the easiest place to hear from Him is at church. All I have to do is go, sit, and listen, because His presence is greater when more than one are gathered in His name - yet still so many posting on this site, this Christian Forum, don't understand this. They go to church, listen to someone behind the podium saying that the Bible is the word of God, thereby pointing them away from listening to Him and to making the Bible an idol.

So it was the He has told me personally:

"Karl, I want you to preach the word, but not as it is so often preached Today. I want you to preach I AM the Word of God." - and when He said "I AM" it those words hit me with power so that I started stumbling toward the floor and had to catch myself on the cabinet.

ajust remember , THOUGH HE IS THE WORD , HE WILL NEVER CONTRADICT HIS WORDS .
and if he do , IT AINT GOD , IT AINT CHRIST at all . SO get a nosefull of some bible and enjoy THE TRUTH .
OH i know GOD still speaks to us today , but if what one hears contradicts HIS words , IT AINT COMING FROM GOD .
Nor would HE ever once try and discourage us from learning our bibles for ourselves .
But many men do just that and most folks sure seems to love to hear that junk . Now why is that .
OH , I KNOW , i know says little johnnie in the back room of the class .
Its cause some things JESUS said in that bible and the apostels reminded , THEY DONT LIKE TO HEAR THAT STUFF .
they want to hear another jesus and another voice that pleases their flesh . LIL JOHNNY BE RIGHT .

 

[amigo de christo]

@Karl Peters wrote.

. Our lives are just not made up of what's written in the Bible

I say, I never said they were.


When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

You say hearing God is not by divine revelation/ heart revelation/ witnessing his truth to your spirit, ..that’s the only way that we can communicate with God, via his Spirit as we are his spirit children.

We must be Born Of God’s seed.

He doesn’t communicate with us like a human does...he communicates Spirit to spirit.

Your teachings/ preaching is not biblical.

You say he talks to you from heaven, then that must be by divine revelation....how are we we Born Of Gods seed if not by divine revelation.

Do you actually know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed?

People need to know, that you are teaching contrary to the Bible.

You say when we are Born Again ,we hear the wind, not true....God will never contradict what we receive by divine revelation in his Written word.

We are led by the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the teachings of Karl Peters.

Thankfully, I don’t believe anyone takes on board what you write mostly, as it’s from your own testimony/ opinions and beliefs....you don’t teach the word of God....

What church would accept the utter confusion you post on this forum imo, most of the time, ..

What church would accept your teachings that you post on here..imo, not one.

You are a self confessed dangerous, confused , self taught believer..

Now, rather than argue with you as you would all day every day..I will cease posting on this thread.

I wouldn’t listen to you if you were the last person on the planet,I thank God that I test the spirits also.

If you notice Karl Peters will argue all day every day, look how he won’t stop forcing “ HIS” own opinions onto me.....how many pages has he quoted me?....it’s consistent/ FORCEFUL.....

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.



........therefore in my opinion he doesn’t understand the written word, it doesn’t penetrate his heart/ spirit ....maybe if he reads this scripture enough he might hear what God is saying, that it might penetrate his heart/ spirit that he may have the spiritual eyes to see the words....... and the spiritual ears to hear the Lord witnessing these truths to our hearts/ spirit.

What does God say about arguing?..would Jesus have spoken like Karl Peters?

Christians should not quarrel or engage in foolish arguments: 2Timothy 2:22-26 says, Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.


Is Karl Peters doing any of the above ...as a teacher ?......that’s what he’s confessing is he not?
..is he not standing up and teaching contrary to the word/ Bible?


No way am I any teacher....yet Karl Peters believes he is, is his teachings like the way Jesus would have taught?....does the Holy Spirit teach us like Karl Peters does on this thread?
Does the Bible not explain how we should treat each other?

Does the Bible not teach about the flesh/ the carnal mind....being led by the Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that the Spirit witnesses with our spirit that we are Gods children?


Have a good day...my last post, thank you Lord, imo, for uncovering this self taught man, who thinks the Bible is irrelevant, for growing and maturing in the spirit...

My opinion / testimony/ belief.

dont heed that man , dont ever feel guilty . HE is accusing you of things you , nor I are guilty of at all .
HE is the one doing as HE does to downplay the dire importance of the scrips . HE IS IN THE ERROR sister .
NOT you . not me . HE IS . i have watched men like karl for years . THERE is a reason they do as they do .
THINGS in that bible BOTHER THEM . they had rather hear another voice that panders to WHAT they desire
RATHER than THE WORDS OF TRUTH that would correct . Sister , march on in the LORD .

 

[amigo de christo]

@Karl Peters wrote.

. Our lives are just not made up of what's written in the Bible

I say, I never said they were.


When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

You say hearing God is not by divine revelation/ heart revelation/ witnessing his truth to your spirit, ..that’s the only way that we can communicate with God, via his Spirit as we are his spirit children.

We must be Born Of God’s seed.

He doesn’t communicate with us like a human does...he communicates Spirit to spirit.

Your teachings/ preaching is not biblical.

You say he talks to you from heaven, then that must be by divine revelation....how are we we Born Of Gods seed if not by divine revelation.

Do you actually know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed?

People need to know, that you are teaching contrary to the Bible.

You say when we are Born Again ,we hear the wind, not true....God will never contradict what we receive by divine revelation in his Written word.

We are led by the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the teachings of Karl Peters.

Thankfully, I don’t believe anyone takes on board what you write mostly, as it’s from your own testimony/ opinions and beliefs....you don’t teach the word of God....

What church would accept the utter confusion you post on this forum imo, most of the time, ..

What church would accept your teachings that you post on here..imo, not one.

You are a self confessed dangerous, confused , self taught believer..

Now, rather than argue with you as you would all day every day..I will cease posting on this thread.

I wouldn’t listen to you if you were the last person on the planet,I thank God that I test the spirits also.

If you notice Karl Peters will argue all day every day, look how he won’t stop forcing “ HIS” own opinions onto me.....how many pages has he quoted me?....it’s consistent/ FORCEFUL.....

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.



........therefore in my opinion he doesn’t understand the written word, it doesn’t penetrate his heart/ spirit ....maybe if he reads this scripture enough he might hear what God is saying, that it might penetrate his heart/ spirit that he may have the spiritual eyes to see the words....... and the spiritual ears to hear the Lord witnessing these truths to our hearts/ spirit.

What does God say about arguing?..would Jesus have spoken like Karl Peters?

Christians should not quarrel or engage in foolish arguments: 2Timothy 2:22-26 says, Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.


Is Karl Peters doing any of the above ...as a teacher ?......that’s what he’s confessing is he not?
..is he not standing up and teaching contrary to the word/ Bible?


No way am I any teacher....yet Karl Peters believes he is, is his teachings like the way Jesus would have taught?....does the Holy Spirit teach us like Karl Peters does on this thread?
Does the Bible not explain how we should treat each other?

Does the Bible not teach about the flesh/ the carnal mind....being led by the Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that the Spirit witnesses with our spirit that we are Gods children?


Have a good day...my last post, thank you Lord, imo, for uncovering this self taught man, who thinks the Bible is irrelevant, for growing and maturing in the spirit...

My opinion / testimony/ belief.

THERE is much wisdom in what you just said . MY last post . this man AINT HEARING a word sister .
and to stay and battle with him will cause you naught but vexation . THERE is a pattern GOD has set
WHEN One wont hear , MOVE ON and leave them be , they condmen themselves .

 

[amigo de christo]

@Karl Peters wrote.

. Our lives are just not made up of what's written in the Bible

I say, I never said they were.


When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

You say hearing God is not by divine revelation/ heart revelation/ witnessing his truth to your spirit, ..that’s the only way that we can communicate with God, via his Spirit as we are his spirit children.

We must be Born Of God’s seed.

He doesn’t communicate with us like a human does...he communicates Spirit to spirit.

Your teachings/ preaching is not biblical.

You say he talks to you from heaven, then that must be by divine revelation....how are we we Born Of Gods seed if not by divine revelation.

Do you actually know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed?

People need to know, that you are teaching contrary to the Bible.

You say when we are Born Again ,we hear the wind, not true....God will never contradict what we receive by divine revelation in his Written word.

We are led by the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the teachings of Karl Peters.

Thankfully, I don’t believe anyone takes on board what you write mostly, as it’s from your own testimony/ opinions and beliefs....you don’t teach the word of God....

What church would accept the utter confusion you post on this forum imo, most of the time, ..

What church would accept your teachings that you post on here..imo, not one.

You are a self confessed dangerous, confused , self taught believer..

Now, rather than argue with you as you would all day every day..I will cease posting on this thread.

I wouldn’t listen to you if you were the last person on the planet,I thank God that I test the spirits also.

If you notice Karl Peters will argue all day every day, look how he won’t stop forcing “ HIS” own opinions onto me.....how many pages has he quoted me?....it’s consistent/ FORCEFUL.....

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.



........therefore in my opinion he doesn’t understand the written word, it doesn’t penetrate his heart/ spirit ....maybe if he reads this scripture enough he might hear what God is saying, that it might penetrate his heart/ spirit that he may have the spiritual eyes to see the words....... and the spiritual ears to hear the Lord witnessing these truths to our hearts/ spirit.

What does God say about arguing?..would Jesus have spoken like Karl Peters?

Christians should not quarrel or engage in foolish arguments: 2Timothy 2:22-26 says, Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.


Is Karl Peters doing any of the above ...as a teacher ?......that’s what he’s confessing is he not?
..is he not standing up and teaching contrary to the word/ Bible?


No way am I any teacher....yet Karl Peters believes he is, is his teachings like the way Jesus would have taught?....does the Holy Spirit teach us like Karl Peters does on this thread?
Does the Bible not explain how we should treat each other?

Does the Bible not teach about the flesh/ the carnal mind....being led by the Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that the Spirit witnesses with our spirit that we are Gods children?


Have a good day...my last post, thank you Lord, imo, for uncovering this self taught man, who thinks the Bible is irrelevant, for growing and maturing in the spirit...

My opinion / testimony/ belief.

You might be wondering how on earth ol amigo can constantly warn
and yet not wear out .
WELL believe you me , in my early days I was wearing out by constantly battling with those who kept on rejecting .
BUT GOD got a hold on me sister . HE reminded me of something .
Just preach the truth , he who hears amen and who rejects its on them .
ALWAYS continue to expose as you are led , but dont just keep on keeping on with those who keep on rejecting .
MOVE ON when they wont hear .
AND as time by time as i am led and i do see some of those doing as they do
WHEN I AM LED i come again to correct . and when they dont hear , I MOVE ON AGAIN .
the pattern of GOD WORKS . its a pattern we learn well IN THAT BIBLE and by HIS SPIRIT which also reminds
us when or if we are not operating as we should . GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS SISTER . HE KNOWS HOW
to KEEP us safe . Its best we stay well DUG in that bible .

 

[Karl Peters]

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.

The Bible is not "our guide book" it is like His text book!!

We are not guided by the Bible, we are guide by listening to Him - or have you not read:

Jn 10:4 “When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.

And that is where you are wrong on all you false assumptions! You don't hear His voice so you don't follow Him!!

You read a verse like the above you quoted:

22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

And you completely miss the phrase "the fruit of the Spirit" and think that is your fruit! So you lean on your own understanding, white wash yourself, and think you are the one who is loving!

Did you not read:

1 Jn 4:16 We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.

So you abide in Him nor He is you if you don't open up to Him and listen to Him! You just give a pretense of it! You pretend by saying the Bible is the one thing necessary, which you did, and that shows that you are not listening to the Great IAM whose name is called "The Word of God."

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
Rev 22:13“I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.”

And because you don't actually listen to Him but lean on your own understanding of the orderly lines of text that you read a little here and there, you wind up calling the text the written word!

When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

In fact you got all of the quote above wrong!! Jesus did not say we are Born Again, He said you must be Born Again. What makes you think you are? He also said those Born Again hear the sound of the Wind, but you talk about reading what is written. And concerning being Born Again Jesus explained we testified of what we know and said you don't accept our testimony. So yes we do even 'post of our own accord, our own testimony, about what we hear. But you don't have anything to tell us as a testimony of what you have heard. So you were wrong three times in just one line of your post. I can go over all of it, but Isaiah prophesied correctly concerning those who do not listen to the Lord and so call the orderly lines of text they read a little here and there, 'the word'.

Is 28:12,13 He who said to them, “Here is rest, give rest to the weary,”
And, “Here is repose,” but they would not listen.
So the word of the LORD to them will be,
“Order on order, order on order,
Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there,”
That they may go and stumble backward, be broken, snared and taken captive.

Because you "would not listen" the word of the Lord to you has become "Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line,
A little here, a little there, - that is to say the word of the Lord to you has become "the written word" and not the voice of the Lord. And that has resulted exactly what Isaiah wrote that it would - it has resulted in you stumbling backward, broken, snared, and taken captive by the enemies of God. That snake of old has never wanted us to go about listening to the Lord our God Jesus Christ, but has wanted us to lean on our own understanding!

Have you not read:

Gen 3:1 ...And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?”

and

Gen 3: 4,5 The serpent said to the woman, “You surely will not die!
“For God knows that in the day you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

So you go around telling others that they can eat of the tree of knowledge and their eyes will be opened and will be like God, knowing good and evil. - But perhaps you never had the parables and saying in the Bible explained to you?

The fact is that no matter how much knowledge you get, even from the Bible, you will never ever be like God, knowing good and evil!! But you can personally get to know God, who knows what is good and evil! You can seek Him, find Him, and listen to Him, as opposed to continually leaning on your own understanding. Or have you not read:

Gal 3:22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.

But you keep going back to leaning on your understanding of the Scriptures instead of seek the voice of the Lord and talking to Him, so you are missing out on the promise by faith in Jesus Christ because you don't actually believe in Him - that He is there to talk with, to hear from, to be taught by! And while you don't see it, that shows in everything you write!

It shows in your thinking you are the loving One, instead of going to the loving One and listening to Him. It shows because you get upset when I do point you to the loving One and try and get you to listen to Him, which of course is the right and loving thing to do - or have you not read:

Rev 3:19 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.

And you don't realize that I point to Him and reprove because He asks me to! You think I am against you, but I tell you that He is for you and He loves you, so He reproves you, but you don't listen to Him and His Holy Spirit who brings your spirit His words of God, but you constantly lean on your own understanding so He has to send other people to tell you to listen to Him who sends His Spirit with His words to you personally, if only you would listen to Him!! Or did you not read the next verse:

Rev 3:20 ‘Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.

It does not say that He will give you written words, but it explains that He will actually come into you and dine personally with you and you with Him. Or have you not also read:

Is 1:18 “Come now, and let us reason together,”
Says the LORD,
“Though your sins are as scarlet,
They will be as white as snow;
Though they are red like crimson,
They will be like wool.

You cannot reason with "the written word" if that is what you insist on calling the Scriptures (which in Greek was Graphe and Graphe is not translated 'word; in your Bible) because the Bible can not think, talk, discuss, or judge things. However Jesus Christ can and does think, talk, and judge things, because He is the living Word of God!! He is alive and active! And you, indeed anyone, can in fact turn to Him by faith and talk with Him, but who will believe in Him?

So I have told you, explained this, used Scripture upon Scripture to back up what I am telling you, and have even testified to what I have heard and seen, just like it is written:

Jn 3:8 “The wind blows where it wishes and you hear the sound of it, but do not know where it comes from and where it is going; so is everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

So again it does not say you are Born Again, it says if your are born of the Spirit you "heard" (not read) the sound of the wind! But you write "the written word of God", so what do you know about hearing the Word of God?

And did you not read:

Jn 3:11 “Truly, truly, I say to you, we speak of what we know and testify of what we have seen, and you do not accept our testimony.

And that is what's happening here! I am telling you to listen to Him, but you come back telling us that only one thing is needed and that is read the Bible. And when I reprove you by showing you that the Lord said only one thing was needed and that was listening to Him, like Mary was doing, you rejected that! But I knew you would because He took me to Ezek 3 and told me that they would not listen to me because they were not willing to listen to Him!

Ezek 3: 7 yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.


All I have been telling you, with all my writings, is simply just seek Him by faith and listen to Him, but you stubbornly refuse to do that!

 

[amigo de christo]

@Karl Peters wrote.

. Our lives are just not made up of what's written in the Bible

I say, I never said they were.


When you can quote the proper scripture by the written word, in how the Lord says we are Born Again, you don’t, you post of your own accord.

You say hearing God is not by divine revelation/ heart revelation/ witnessing his truth to your spirit, ..that’s the only way that we can communicate with God, via his Spirit as we are his spirit children.

We must be Born Of God’s seed.

He doesn’t communicate with us like a human does...he communicates Spirit to spirit.

Your teachings/ preaching is not biblical.

You say he talks to you from heaven, then that must be by divine revelation....how are we we Born Of Gods seed if not by divine revelation.

Do you actually know what it means to be Born Of God’s seed?

People need to know, that you are teaching contrary to the Bible.

You say when we are Born Again ,we hear the wind, not true....God will never contradict what we receive by divine revelation in his Written word.

We are led by the Holy Spirit, we are not led by the teachings of Karl Peters.

Thankfully, I don’t believe anyone takes on board what you write mostly, as it’s from your own testimony/ opinions and beliefs....you don’t teach the word of God....

What church would accept the utter confusion you post on this forum imo, most of the time, ..

What church would accept your teachings that you post on here..imo, not one.

You are a self confessed dangerous, confused , self taught believer..

Now, rather than argue with you as you would all day every day..I will cease posting on this thread.

I wouldn’t listen to you if you were the last person on the planet,I thank God that I test the spirits also.

If you notice Karl Peters will argue all day every day, look how he won’t stop forcing “ HIS” own opinions onto me.....how many pages has he quoted me?....it’s consistent/ FORCEFUL.....

Galatians 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, 23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

Is Karl Peters showing the fruit of the Spirit, does he even know what the fruit of the Spirit means.
It certainly doesn’t seem that way ....has he thrown his Bible out, is he now going by what he believes he hears in his head.....

The Bible is our guide book, it’s said in Spirit and truth..it was written by men who were under divine inspiration , the Holy Spirit......Karl Peters is not the Spirit Of Truth, that’s why I would never listen to him....he imo is a self processed teacher....all in my opinion.



........therefore in my opinion he doesn’t understand the written word, it doesn’t penetrate his heart/ spirit ....maybe if he reads this scripture enough he might hear what God is saying, that it might penetrate his heart/ spirit that he may have the spiritual eyes to see the words....... and the spiritual ears to hear the Lord witnessing these truths to our hearts/ spirit.

What does God say about arguing?..would Jesus have spoken like Karl Peters?

Christians should not quarrel or engage in foolish arguments: 2Timothy 2:22-26 says, Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels. And the Lord's servant must not quarrel; instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful.


Is Karl Peters doing any of the above ...as a teacher ?......that’s what he’s confessing is he not?
..is he not standing up and teaching contrary to the word/ Bible?


No way am I any teacher....yet Karl Peters believes he is, is his teachings like the way Jesus would have taught?....does the Holy Spirit teach us like Karl Peters does on this thread?
Does the Bible not explain how we should treat each other?

Does the Bible not teach about the flesh/ the carnal mind....being led by the Spirit.

Does the Bible teach that the Spirit witnesses with our spirit that we are Gods children?


Have a good day...my last post, thank you Lord, imo, for uncovering this self taught man, who thinks the Bible is irrelevant, for growing and maturing in the spirit...

My opinion / testimony/ belief.

Rita let us steer clear of this matter now . lets find other threads and posts .

 

[Karl Peters]

You might be wondering how on earth ol amigo can constantly warn
and yet not wear out .
WELL believe you me , in my early days I was wearing out by constantly battling with those who kept on rejecting .
BUT GOD got a hold on me sister . HE reminded me of something .
Just preach the truth , he who hears amen and who rejects its on them .
ALWAYS continue to expose as you are led , but dont just keep on keeping on with those who keep on rejecting .
MOVE ON when they wont hear .
AND as time by time as i am led and i do see some of those doing as they do
WHEN I AM LED i come again to correct . and when they dont hear , I MOVE ON AGAIN .
the pattern of GOD WORKS . its a pattern we learn well IN THAT BIBLE and by HIS SPIRIT which also reminds
us when or if we are not operating as we should . GOD IS WITH THE LAMBS SISTER . HE KNOWS HOW
to KEEP us safe . Its best we stay well DUG in that bible .

You write "Just preach the truth" - but you don't know Him.

You write "we stay well DUG in that bible" but He told the Jews:

Jn 5: 39,40 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life.

Yet I reprove you by the very Bible you are claiming to be "DUG" into, and in such a manor that you capitalize "DUG".

And yet is it written:

Gal 3:22 But the Scripture has shut up everyone under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe

And even Paul only wanted to know one thing.

Gal 3:2 This is the only thing I want to find out from you: did you receive the Spirit by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

So Paul even disproves you , and your "we learn well IN THAT BIBLE and by HIS SPIRIT" - statement.

So you have even rejected what was written of what Jesus said, and what was written by Paul all in one post, and also in every post you write. And that because you have rejected Jesus Christ from coming into you life. What price will you pay for that? And for leading others to believe that their salvation comes from staying "well DUG in that bible" as opposed to seeking and listening to Jesus Christ, what will that cost you?

Mat 18:16 but whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him to have a [fn]heavy millstone hung around his neck, and to be drowned in the depth of the sea.


Mat 18:2-4 And He called a child to Himself and set him before them,
and said, “Truly I say to you, unless you are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven.
“Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven.

If you would just humble yourself like the child who is called by Him and sit before Him, you would be saved, but you don't hear nor go to Him. Instead you are "DUG in that bible", so are still under sin! You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is those that testify about Him; and you are unwilling to come to Him so that you may have life.

 

[Karl Peters]

Rita let us steer clear of this matter now . lets find other threads and posts .

Ezek 3:6,7 ...I have sent you to them who should listen to you; yet the house of Israel will not be willing to listen to you, since they are not willing to listen to Me. Surely the whole house of Israel is stubborn and obstinate.

 

[One 2 question]

If the truth in that bible proves me wrong , Then WRONG i am . But lets not twist it shall we .
WHEN i say one ought to be in that bible and reading it for themselves , believe you me
that is not gonna contradict what is written in the scrips .

What if the Spirit convinces you from scriptures that God changes His mind. Are you ok to accept that?