You both make an accusation that is without any evidence.
You both made an idol out of the bible, that is something I and the Christians I know have not and Don do.
The bible is how I learn of about God, it is what I use to validate summons, messages and feelings.
You both by the superior tone in your post and the putting down of those who " still depend" on the bible, portray yourselves as mature Christians.
Yet you show little regard for other Christians with weaker faith.
You have both stressed how the spirit has endorsed your view of the unimportance of scripture.
For me all I get is alarm bells ring about the dangers of your views.
My view of "view of the unimportance of scripture"???????????????????????
Just count the number of scriptures I use to prove what I am saying verses what you use!!!!
Indeed, the very first words He told me were, "Read Your Bible", and so that was the very first command that I heard from His voice and I did it. But if anyone is being taught by God then they get commands from His voice!!! Or have you not read:
Jn 10:27 “My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me
or
Jn 10:3 “To him the doorkeeper opens, and the sheep hear his voice, and he calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.
or
Jn 10:4 “When he puts forth all his own, he goes ahead of them, and the sheep follow him because they know his voice.
So the danger is that you don't hear His voice - according to the very Scriptures you are putting your trust in! And the question that 'One 2 question' still remains - "Who told you that? Did you not also read in that same chapter Jn 10
Jn 10:20 Many of them were saying, “He has a demon and is insane. Why do you listen to Him?”
Indeed, who were those many that were saying that? Were they not the Jews, even those religious Pharisees and Sadducees?
So there are His sheep who hear His voice and also the religious who think those hearing His voice and testifying to the voice of God means that person has a demon. Yet Jesus does and says only what His Father tells Him to this very day - which is why He is called the Word of God, and why His sheep hear His voice, via the Holy Spirit - but like those religious Pharisees and Sadducees you think the danger is in hearing form the Lord our God, Jesus Christ, who has the very words of God for us. And His Holy Spirit brings them to our spirit, or did you not even read:
Jn 6:63 “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.
Yet it is right after that written:
Jn 6:64 “But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who it was that would betray Him.
And that is what you should fear; that you indeed betray Him, even by telling people that knowing the Bible exceeds knowing Jesus Christ personally!!
And I have already pointed out John 5:39,40 -
"You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;
and you are unwilling to come to Me so that you may have life."
And as far as maturity in Jesus Christ, did you not read:
Heb 5:14 But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.
If you are one who does not practice using your spiritual senses, then you are not the mature Christian, and you are not yet trained to discern good and evil. But rather you are "dull of hearing" are you not - which is discussed right before the above verse?
Heb 5: 11-14 Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.
For though by this time you ought to be teachers, you have need again for someone to teach you the elementary principles of the oracles of God, and you have come to need milk and not solid food.
For everyone who partakes only of milk is not accustomed to the word of righteousness, for he is an infant.
This simple fact that we "Christians" need to seek the Lord and listen to the words that come from His voice should be the easiest of things to preach, but to the person who does not believe Jesus Christ is there with His Holy Spirit to talk to them it is almost impossible to get thru to them.
Did you not also read the first recorded words that snake said in the garden? They were "“Indeed, has God said,"
Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, “Indeed, has God said, ‘You shall not eat from any tree of the garden’?”
It is still the first way the devil deceives a person Today! The snake say "“Indeed, has God said" and so a person falling into that trap and trick turns from hearing the Lord by faith, to read the Bible by their own understanding!
But it is still written:
2 Tim 3:16 All Scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness;
And that is why I use the very Scriptures that you are putting your faith in to prove that you need to put your faith in Jesus Christ, that He as the Great I Am is there for you to hear from personally!!1 But you find that as "alarm bells" ringing in you. So, who put those alarm bells there? Who told you, "“Indeed, has God said,"???
We all need to hear His voice and His words that come to us via His Holy Spirit, just like it is written!! And that is done by faith in Jesus Christ, that He is there to be heard from, and it does not come from searching the Scripture and thinking in them you have eternal life!!
But there is GOOD NEWS for anyone!! He is still standing there and if ANYONE hears His voice and opens up to Him He will come into them so that the two of you can talk back and forth! But who will believe that? Who will accept the reproof that we tend not to seek Him and listen to Him? Who will become an actual disciple of His by listening to Him? Who will repent of leaning on their own understanding? Who will actually be zealous for Him, as opposed to their own religious understanding? It is the ones who actually seek Him and listen to Him!! But it could be ANYONE, if they turn from their ways to His voice!
Rev 3:19,20 ‘Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline; therefore be zealous and repent.
Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.
It is those who listen to Him who are taught of God!!
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