Aunty Jane
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LOL… none so blind….I addressed all of it.NONE of that addresses my points.
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LOL… none so blind….I addressed all of it.NONE of that addresses my points.
Are you serious? Where are you getting your information?…..no guesswork there. It‘s the same place that the Pharisees got their information about Jesus and his disciples.…from their “father”.You don't know what the KIT is? it's your kingdom interlinear! What does 1985 have to do with it/ How many do they have? lol I have 69 and 85. Has that lying declaration now been removed in yet another new edition? Or are you like family members who are afraid to use the KIT now because they were told it will CONFUSE them. An interlinear, really now? Only if you are hiding things.
I am unsure as to which statement you are so shocked by. I have spoken only what's true. For that, Satan is my Father? Be very careful there, dear. Classic Jw! You will answer for that one day. My question was, did they remove that deceitful declaration in the new edition or not?Are you serious? Where are you getting your information?…..no guesswork there. It‘s the same place that the Pharisees got their information about Jesus and his disciples.…from their “father”.
In all my years of study, I have never been told the rubbish that you throw in my backyard. Please tell us what denomination your believe, so that we may reciprocate. Shouldn’t you clean up your own backyard first? That includes the whole of Christendom who declare themselves to be “Christians” in spite of the fact that 99% of what they teach did not come from Jesus Christ….and they cannot even agree among themselves. How could you possibly be fooled by the devil? It’s unthinkable…..yet the Jews who put Christ to death felt exactly the same way…..
She addressed some of them. Like the pagan trinity gods, that you seem to take issue with.NONE of that addresses my points.
That’s actually not very clear…My denomination is and always will only be, Christian.
You have no issue when she referred to me as satan's child because that's not contentious. It's typical for your group.She addressed some of them. Like the pagan trinity gods, that you seem to take issue with.
I see your other points as only inciting quarrels and contention. So maybe they’re not worth responding to?
2 Timothy 2:24
Let’s deal with facts, like Christendom’s reputation of bloodguilt.
According to Jesus & the Apostle John, that is one way people can identify God-approved religion from false religion. — John 13:35; 1John 3:10-14.
Oh yeah the boogeyman man is us Christians.If Jesus is your God (as He is for most of Christendom),
then why isn’t Christendom obedient to Him? They’ve been killing their brothers since their inception, since Constantine the Great.
Yet our Savior Jesus said, “ I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves..” — John 13:34,35. See John 15:12
See, the thing is, when you’re obedient to God, He gives you His spirit; and the fruitage of that spirit is “love,… peace,… kindness, goodness,… mildness.” (Galatians 5:22,23) These qualities are the result of having His blessing, and are especially evident during difficult times, like during wars & conflicts.
But time and again, rather than being representatives of the Prince of Peace, Christendom has joined in the wars of the nations!!
Christ told His followers to be “not of / no part of this world” (John 15:19 ; James 4:4); yet most of Christendom has chosen to ignore Christ.
He’s their God? He’s gonna say “Away from me, you workers of evil.” — Matthew 7:22,23
(Really, what greater “evil” could be done to a person, than taking away their own life?)
This is one reason why Jehovah says “‘Get out from among them, My people, separate yourselves…. Touch nothing unclean.” — 2 Corinthians 6:17
I hope you heed the advice.
So astute! Coming from an expert of watchtower cult that deny Jesus.That’s actually not very clear…
there’s over 30,000.
Is it one of those that teach Hellfire is literal, or just a condition of being separate from God?
Do your religion’s members talk with the dead, or get the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues?
Do you handle poisonous snakes?
I mean, the list goes on & on.
Maybe you should just “follow Jesus,” and worship Who He, the Apostles, & the first-century Christians worshipped (John 4:23,24; John 20:17), His Father. (Acts 4:24-30 ; 1 Corinthians 8:5,6).
Do your religion’s leaders strive to keep “without spot from the world” (James 1:27), or do they support the world’s wars?
Oh, BTW, we’re against abortion & immorality, too. Just in case you didn’t know.
Who said I was shocked? You forget I was raised with your beliefs….I got rid of them because none of them are genuine teachings of the Bible. They are not stated but rather, suggested, using ambiguous cherry picked verses. Unless you study the Bible rather than church doctrine, you will never know. It’s an ignorance of choice. I was there once….never again. I chose the inconvenient truth over the comfortable old lies.I am unsure as to which statement you are so shocked by.
Well, you have spoken what “the church” generally teaches, and your reticence to disclose a denomination is telling us that you don’t want to go there.I have spoken only what's true. For that, Satan is my Father?
If you can tell me what “deceitful declaration” you mean, then perhaps I can clear that up for you. (although I probably have already)Be very careful there, dear. Classic Jw! You will answer for that one day. My question was, did they remove that deceitful declaration in the new edition or not?
“Not easily diverted”?…..neither were the enemies of Jesus….so relentless (and ‘deaf’ and ‘blind’, in their cultivated hatred) that they had him permanently silenced (so they thought) and even cursed themselves with his blood (Matt 27:25)….are you a hater like that too? Does it ever occur to you that those who taught you, were products of the “weeds” that Jesus told his disciples would come? You said deception was not easy to spot…..are you a victim yourself? How do you know?If I have thrown rubbish in your yard, you have every opportunity here to clean your yard. Yet, you haven't done so. You may feel that your look over there responses are actual replies. I'm not easily diverted.
It’s a long list….but happy to tackle them one by one if you are interested in an actual discussion….?So, tell me Jane, what is there in my backyard that you would like me to clean up specifically? What's that comment about?
Anyone who declares themselves “non-denominational” (if that is what you are suggesting here) has no problem accepting doctrines that are not true. They are ‘fence sitters’ who leave the doctrinal stuff alone so as not to cause waves…..but they are complicit by their silence. God does not accept untruth or half truths. What are you offering? If it’s denominational, then we have something to talk about. Your denomination will have a web site that outlines your beliefs, like we do, so we can see them.My denomination is and always will only be, Christian.
Hilarious! NO NO- Seems YOU are the one who forgot that I was raised with YOUR False Teachings! Unlike you though I decided to actually read my bible in context! Talk about cherry picking!!! Romans 6:7, 23????Who said I was shocked? You forget I was raised with your beliefs….I got rid of them because none of them are genuine teachings of the Bible. They are not stated but rather, suggested, using ambiguous cherry picked verses. Unless you study the Bible rather than church doctrine, you will never know. It’s an ignorance of choice. I was there once….never again. I chose the inconvenient truth over the comfortable old lies.
Well, you have spoken what “the church” generally teaches, and your reticence to disclose a denomination is telling us that you don’t want to go there.
Satan is the sower of the “weeds”, which are counterfeit “Christians”…..they resemble the original in minuscule ways, but it doesn’t take long to see through the pretense. Actions speak louder…
As @TheHC has pointed out, Christendom’s churches find excuses to break Christ’s commands, in order to carry out the commands of men….they have blood on their hands. (Isa 1:15)
If you can tell me what “deceitful declaration” you mean, then perhaps I can clear that up for you. (although I probably have already)
In Australia we don’t use acronyms much, but prefer to just use the words in English so people can understand what we say. It saves a lot of misunderstanding.
“Not easily diverted”?…..neither were the enemies of Jesus….so relentless (and ‘deaf’ and ‘blind’, in their cultivated hatred) that they had him permanently silenced (so they thought) and even cursed themselves with his blood (Matt 27:25)….are you a hater like that too? Does it ever occur to you that those who taught you, were products of the “weeds” that Jesus told his disciples would come? You said deception was not easy to spot…..are you a victim yourself? How do you know?
It’s a long list….but happy to tackle them one by one if you are interested in an actual discussion….?
Anyone who declares themselves “non-denominational” (if that is what you are suggesting here) has no problem accepting doctrines that are not true. They are ‘fence sitters’ who leave the doctrinal stuff alone so as not to cause waves…..but they are complicit by their silence. God does not accept untruth or half truths. What are you offering? If it’s denominational, then we have something to talk about. Your denomination will have a web site that outlines your beliefs, like we do, so we can see them.
If you accept the three basic doctrines upon which the divided churches of Christendom are built, then your church is a product of the “weeds”, who are in the majority. (Matt 7:13-14; 21-23) It is apparent from your responses that you are not a Bible student who can discuss Scripture, but one who is too hot headed to be civil. Is that a Christian trait?
Self-control is a product of God’s spirit.
The depth of your emotion regarding our beliefs appears to be personal. How do our beliefs impact on you to the point of such negative responses? I wonder if you have even had an exchange with a JW that was an actual two way conversation….rather than a one sided tirade.
Informed consent is the basis for all important decisions…no one can make such a choice without all the information. Those who are afraid of information that they cannot refute always resort to attacks with personal denigration attached. There is no need to make the subject matter personal, when it can be discussed objectively, instead of subjectively. Once emotions are evoked, then the childishness begins, with false accusations that are mostly unsubstantiated. No amount of explanation to the contrary will be accepted. So why bother responding to that?…again and again?
Look at the posts from your co-accuser…..aren’t you proud to be partnered with him…? Peas in a pod. Blind hatred is not a Christian trait.
If you don’t like what we post, or cannot respond in a civil manner, it’s a simple matter of hitting the “ignore” button. Either that, or we will. We are after all, in the “Unorthodox Forum”.