AN OPEN LETTER TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

[Aunty Jane]

NONE of that addresses my points.

LOL… none so blind….I addressed all of it.

 

[Aunty Jane]

You don't know what the KIT is? it's your kingdom interlinear! What does 1985 have to do with it/ How many do they have? lol I have 69 and 85. Has that lying declaration now been removed in yet another new edition? Or are you like family members who are afraid to use the KIT now because they were told it will CONFUSE them. An interlinear, really now? Only if you are hiding things.

Are you serious? Where are you getting your information?…..no guesswork there. It‘s the same place that the Pharisees got their information about Jesus and his disciples.…from their “father”.

In all my years of study, I have never been told the rubbish that you throw in my backyard. Please tell us what denomination your believe, so that we may reciprocate. Shouldn’t you clean up your own backyard first? That includes the whole of Christendom who declare themselves to be “Christians” in spite of the fact that 99% of what they teach did not come from Jesus Christ….and they cannot even agree among themselves. How could you possibly be fooled by the devil? It’s unthinkable…..yet the Jews who put Christ to death felt exactly the same way…..

 

[PS95]

Are you serious? Where are you getting your information?…..no guesswork there. It‘s the same place that the Pharisees got their information about Jesus and his disciples.…from their “father”.

In all my years of study, I have never been told the rubbish that you throw in my backyard. Please tell us what denomination your believe, so that we may reciprocate. Shouldn’t you clean up your own backyard first? That includes the whole of Christendom who declare themselves to be “Christians” in spite of the fact that 99% of what they teach did not come from Jesus Christ….and they cannot even agree among themselves. How could you possibly be fooled by the devil? It’s unthinkable…..yet the Jews who put Christ to death felt exactly the same way…..

I am unsure as to which statement you are so shocked by. I have spoken only what's true. For that, Satan is my Father? Be very careful there, dear. Classic Jw! You will answer for that one day. My question was, did they remove that deceitful declaration in the new edition or not?

If I have thrown rubbish in your yard, you have every opportunity here to clean your yard. Yet, you haven't done so. You may feel that your look over there responses are actual replies. I'm not easily diverted.

So, tell me Jane, what is there in my backyard that you would like me to clean up specifically? What's that comment about?

My denomination is and always will only be, Christian.

 

[TheHC]

NONE of that addresses my points.

She addressed some of them. Like the pagan trinity gods, that you seem to take issue with.

I see your other points as only inciting quarrels and contention. So maybe they’re not worth responding to?
2 Timothy 2:24
Let’s deal with facts, like Christendom’s reputation of bloodguilt.
According to Jesus & the Apostle John, that is one way people can identify God-approved religion from false religion. — John 13:35; 1John 3:10-14.

 

[TheHC]

My denomination is and always will only be, Christian.

That’s actually not very clear…
there’s over 30,000.

Is it one of those that teach Hellfire is literal, or just a condition of being separate from God?

Do your religion’s members talk with the dead, or get the Holy Ghost and speak in tongues?

Do you handle poisonous snakes?

I mean, the list goes on & on.

Maybe you should just “follow Jesus,” and worship Who He, the Apostles, & the first-century Christians worshipped (John 4:23,24; John 20:17), His Father. (Acts 4:24-30 ; 1 Corinthians 8:5,6).

Do your religion’s leaders strive to keep “without spot from the world” (James 1:27), or do they support the world’s wars?


Oh, BTW, we’re against abortion & immorality, too. Just in case you didn’t know.

 

[PS95]

She addressed some of them. Like the pagan trinity gods, that you seem to take issue with.

I see your other points as only inciting quarrels and contention. So maybe they’re not worth responding to?
2 Timothy 2:24
Let’s deal with facts, like Christendom’s reputation of bloodguilt.
According to Jesus & the Apostle John, that is one way people can identify God-approved religion from false religion. — John 13:35; 1John 3:10-14.

You have no issue when she referred to me as satan's child because that's not contentious. It's typical for your group.

As to your snarkiness, HC-. I took issue with her absurd notion that triniarians here believe the same way as pagans by using photos of 3 headed pagan gods. WHY? As I pointed out, pagans had many single headed gods too. Hello? As well as 4 heads and 5 and so on. Hello? If you can't understand why her pics of pagan gods is an utterly ridiculous comparison, especially after i pointed that fact out then you have serious issues! Also she didn't come up with that concept on her own. She got it from the watchtower since those pics graced their brochure years ago in a very deceitful booklet. Uneven scales are a detestable thing.

You think that the very foundation your very religion is contentious? Russell's pyramid and your 1914 good news? How interesting. And yes, Rutherford was even worse than Russell. Your interlinear is dishonest.
All contentious? If I call you satan's child is that ok? Uneven scales are a detestable thing.

You have new accusation for me- Now I'm bloodguilty. Oh gee. You sure you want to go there with me?!
Do you speak of military service I gather? If you haven't noticed, it's necessary to have a military, as I'm sure you don't deny? Although I had NO STOCK in Raytheon as the Watchtower did. $$$

Jesus never told the Roman Centurion to quit. Instead, he told him to be content with his pay. True?
I know you also have an issue with the police. Cops cant be Jws, still?
Funny, I always thought they were the authorities in Romans 13 who answer to God, Not you. True? How manytimes has the WT flip flopped on their poisonous food serving over that issue?!
5-6-10? I lost count. Yet, you demonize police officers. Who do you call when your house in broken into?

As to the military.. Christians as US citizens are free to be exempt. Conscientious objection- ever heard of it? Good. Because it's used all of the time. Christians use their BIBLE TRAINED CONCSIENCE to decide. That's their decision, not their pastor's.
There are many Christian denoms that oppose military service. Amish, Mennonite, are two off the top of my head but there is a long list. SO WHAT?
I find your bloodguilt accusation of believers as absurd as your pyramid theology. If we want to discuss bloodguilt perhaps we can scrutinize the hypocritical, unscientific & unmerciful blood policy and the deaths of innocent children at the hands of mummie n daddie in a child sacrifice offering to Jehovah.

yes, I forgot WT- has lotsa stock in Pfizer as well. Your mandated mrna shot and boosters made them lotsa cash.
It's shame so many are now sick. Maybe pfizer can help with more drugs.$$$ It's too late for the poor Jws who died from it. But at least they now have their sins all paid up, right?
Do you enjoy the "Mother organization" making medical decisions for you? The Lord jesus gave Christians LIBERTY, not a control freak narcissistic mother. But you believe them as if they are God! You do and say whatever they tell you!

 

[rebuilder 454]

If Jesus is your God (as He is for most of Christendom),
then why isn’t Christendom obedient to Him? They’ve been killing their brothers since their inception, since Constantine the Great.

Yet our Savior Jesus said, “ I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, that you also love one another. By this all will know that you are my disciples if you have love among yourselves..” — John 13:34,35. See John 15:12

See, the thing is, when you’re obedient to God, He gives you His spirit; and the fruitage of that spirit is “love,… peace,… kindness, goodness,… mildness.” (Galatians 5:22,23) These qualities are the result of having His blessing, and are especially evident during difficult times, like during wars & conflicts.

But time and again, rather than being representatives of the Prince of Peace, Christendom has joined in the wars of the nations!!
Christ told His followers to be “not of / no part of this world” (John 15:19 ; James 4:4); yet most of Christendom has chosen to ignore Christ.
He’s their God? He’s gonna say “Away from me, you workers of evil.” — Matthew 7:22,23

(Really, what greater “evil” could be done to a person, than taking away their own life?)

This is one reason why Jehovah says “‘Get out from among them, My people, separate yourselves…. Touch nothing unclean.” — 2 Corinthians 6:17

I hope you heed the advice.

Oh yeah the boogeyman man is us Christians.
Meanwhile your watchtower God has Jehovah erroneously leading his own angels into rebellion in Hebrews telling them to worship Jesus.
Get YOUR house in order maybe?
You are so full of sin and have no great high priest to help you.
Sad.

 

[Aunty Jane]

I am unsure as to which statement you are so shocked by.

Who said I was shocked? You forget I was raised with your beliefs….I got rid of them because none of them are genuine teachings of the Bible. They are not stated but rather, suggested, using ambiguous cherry picked verses. Unless you study the Bible rather than church doctrine, you will never know. It’s an ignorance of choice. I was there once….never again. I chose the inconvenient truth over the comfortable old lies.

I have spoken only what's true. For that, Satan is my Father?

Well, you have spoken what “the church” generally teaches, and your reticence to disclose a denomination is telling us that you don’t want to go there.
Satan is the sower of the “weeds”, which are counterfeit “Christians”…..they resemble the original in minuscule ways, but it doesn’t take long to see through the pretense. Actions speak louder…
As @TheHC has pointed out, Christendom’s churches find excuses to break Christ’s commands, in order to carry out the commands of men….they have blood on their hands. (Isa 1:15)

Be very careful there, dear. Classic Jw! You will answer for that one day. My question was, did they remove that deceitful declaration in the new edition or not?

If you can tell me what “deceitful declaration” you mean, then perhaps I can clear that up for you. (although I probably have already)
In Australia we don’t use acronyms much, but prefer to just use the words in English so people can understand what we say. It saves a lot of misunderstanding.

If I have thrown rubbish in your yard, you have every opportunity here to clean your yard. Yet, you haven't done so. You may feel that your look over there responses are actual replies. I'm not easily diverted.

“Not easily diverted”?…..neither were the enemies of Jesus….so relentless (and ‘deaf’ and ‘blind’, in their cultivated hatred) that they had him permanently silenced (so they thought) and even cursed themselves with his blood (Matt 27:25)….are you a hater like that too? Does it ever occur to you that those who taught you, were products of the “weeds” that Jesus told his disciples would come? You said deception was not easy to spot…..are you a victim yourself? How do you know?

So, tell me Jane, what is there in my backyard that you would like me to clean up specifically? What's that comment about?

It’s a long list….but happy to tackle them one by one if you are interested in an actual discussion….?

My denomination is and always will only be, Christian.

Anyone who declares themselves “non-denominational” (if that is what you are suggesting here) has no problem accepting doctrines that are not true. They are ‘fence sitters’ who leave the doctrinal stuff alone so as not to cause waves…..but they are complicit by their silence. God does not accept untruth or half truths. What are you offering? If it’s denominational, then we have something to talk about. Your denomination will have a web site that outlines your beliefs, like we do, so we can see them.

If you accept the three basic doctrines upon which the divided churches of Christendom are built, then your church is a product of the “weeds”, who are in the majority. (Matt 7:13-14; 21-23) It is apparent from your responses that you are not a Bible student who can discuss Scripture, but one who is too hot headed to be civil. Is that a Christian trait?
Self-control is a product of God’s spirit.

The depth of your emotion regarding our beliefs appears to be personal. How do our beliefs impact on you to the point of such negative responses? I wonder if you have even had an exchange with a JW that was an actual two way conversation….rather than a one sided tirade.

Informed consent is the basis for all important decisions…no one can make such a choice without all the information. Those who are afraid of information that they cannot refute always resort to attacks with personal denigration attached. There is no need to make the subject matter personal, when it can be discussed objectively, instead of subjectively. Once emotions are evoked, then the childishness begins, with false accusations that are mostly unsubstantiated. No amount of explanation to the contrary will be accepted. So why bother responding to that?…again and again?

Look at the posts from your co-accuser…..aren’t you proud to be partnered with him…? Peas in a pod. Blind hatred is not a Christian trait.

If you don’t like what we post, or cannot respond in a civil manner, it’s a simple matter of hitting the “ignore” button. Either that, or we will. We are after all, in the “Unorthodox Forum”.

 

[PS95]

Who said I was shocked? You forget I was raised with your beliefs….I got rid of them because none of them are genuine teachings of the Bible. They are not stated but rather, suggested, using ambiguous cherry picked verses. Unless you study the Bible rather than church doctrine, you will never know. It’s an ignorance of choice. I was there once….never again. I chose the inconvenient truth over the comfortable old lies.

Well, you have spoken what “the church” generally teaches, and your reticence to disclose a denomination is telling us that you don’t want to go there.
Satan is the sower of the “weeds”, which are counterfeit “Christians”…..they resemble the original in minuscule ways, but it doesn’t take long to see through the pretense. Actions speak louder…
As @TheHC has pointed out, Christendom’s churches find excuses to break Christ’s commands, in order to carry out the commands of men….they have blood on their hands. (Isa 1:15)

If you can tell me what “deceitful declaration” you mean, then perhaps I can clear that up for you. (although I probably have already)
In Australia we don’t use acronyms much, but prefer to just use the words in English so people can understand what we say. It saves a lot of misunderstanding.

“Not easily diverted”?…..neither were the enemies of Jesus….so relentless (and ‘deaf’ and ‘blind’, in their cultivated hatred) that they had him permanently silenced (so they thought) and even cursed themselves with his blood (Matt 27:25)….are you a hater like that too? Does it ever occur to you that those who taught you, were products of the “weeds” that Jesus told his disciples would come? You said deception was not easy to spot…..are you a victim yourself? How do you know?

It’s a long list….but happy to tackle them one by one if you are interested in an actual discussion….?

Anyone who declares themselves “non-denominational” (if that is what you are suggesting here) has no problem accepting doctrines that are not true. They are ‘fence sitters’ who leave the doctrinal stuff alone so as not to cause waves…..but they are complicit by their silence. God does not accept untruth or half truths. What are you offering? If it’s denominational, then we have something to talk about. Your denomination will have a web site that outlines your beliefs, like we do, so we can see them.

If you accept the three basic doctrines upon which the divided churches of Christendom are built, then your church is a product of the “weeds”, who are in the majority. (Matt 7:13-14; 21-23) It is apparent from your responses that you are not a Bible student who can discuss Scripture, but one who is too hot headed to be civil. Is that a Christian trait?
Self-control is a product of God’s spirit.

The depth of your emotion regarding our beliefs appears to be personal. How do our beliefs impact on you to the point of such negative responses? I wonder if you have even had an exchange with a JW that was an actual two way conversation….rather than a one sided tirade.

Informed consent is the basis for all important decisions…no one can make such a choice without all the information. Those who are afraid of information that they cannot refute always resort to attacks with personal denigration attached. There is no need to make the subject matter personal, when it can be discussed objectively, instead of subjectively. Once emotions are evoked, then the childishness begins, with false accusations that are mostly unsubstantiated. No amount of explanation to the contrary will be accepted. So why bother responding to that?…again and again?

Look at the posts from your co-accuser…..aren’t you proud to be partnered with him…? Peas in a pod. Blind hatred is not a Christian trait.

If you don’t like what we post, or cannot respond in a civil manner, it’s a simple matter of hitting the “ignore” button. Either that, or we will. We are after all, in the “Unorthodox Forum”.

Hilarious! NO NO- Seems YOU are the one who forgot that I was raised with YOUR False Teachings! Unlike you though I decided to actually read my bible in context! Talk about cherry picking!!! Romans 6:7, 23????
You can't die to gain forgiveness!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what Jesus died for!!! HELLO!!! You deny that BASIC CHRISTIAN TRUTH!!
A wage isnt something you can PAY. It is something you ARE PAID!
YOU my dear, are the apostate. REPENT.

 

[TheHC]

So astute! Coming from an expert of watchtower cult that deny Jesus.
You are here for one reason, to disgrace the free gift of Jesus Christ to the planet.
You and your organization bring many people unto hell.
No savior.
You smear Jehovah and his Son Jesus.
Too bad this place gives a soap box to a demon lead antichrist organization.
Without fear,, you smear all of christianity,THE BODY OF CHRIST,...

ON A CHRISTIAN FORUM?????????

Get out of here and take your antichrist demons with you.
You pure fake heretics

My goodness!
Why do you show such vehemence?

In my comments on the reputation of Christendom, did I tell any lies? It is truth.

And i wasn’t applying anything I said to you, personally.
You’re my cousin…

I was encouraging you to consider & question your association with the disobedient leaders of this organization.

When Jesus told His disciples to “love one another”, was it a command? Yes. — John 13:34; 15:12; 15:17

Have Christendom’s religions obeyed His command? For the vast majority, no; not when it mattered the most, like during conflicts.

Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick was candid when he said: “Even in our churches we have put the battle flags . . . With one corner of our mouth we have praised the Prince of Peace and with the other we have glorified war. So well have we succeeded in blending Christ and carnage, the Gospel and organized slaughter, that recently a missionary in an Oriental country, after an address upon Christian goodwill, was taken aside by a native, who said, ‘You must know that the educated people of this country look upon Christianity as a warring, blood-spilling religion.’”

The Bible states that false religion can be recognized by its fruitage: “They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works.”—Titus 1:16.

It’s not for no reason that Jehovah God says “get out” & “separate yourselves, my people”!
2 Corinthians 6:17

 

[rebuilder 454]

It was said that if a Jew broke one law of God, he broke them all.....Jesus said that all of the laws given by God were based on two solid foundations....'Love for God and love of neighbor'. One cannot break one law of God without contravening one or both of those foundations.
Abortion, without a solid medical reason, is "murder".....no question.
But, if a mother's life is put at risk if the pregnancy continues and she has other children to care for, there are hard decisions to be made. One would not knowingly and willingly sacrifice a mother's the life for the sake of an unborn child. Rather the risk factors would have to be weighed up and a prayerful decision made in such circumstances. The other children need their mother. God does not expect life to be preserved at all costs.....all lives are sacred to him, so the circumstances would dictate the action.

We also have the hope of the resurrection, so that a life lost, is not lost forever.

God did not ever create satan or any other of his intelligent creatures to sin. Satan was a beautiful spirit creature who entertained some grandiose ideas about himself.
In an address to the King of Tyre, Jehovah was clearly addressing the devil, whom this King was emulating.....

"In Eʹden, the garden of God, you proved to be. Every precious stone was your covering. . . . . In the day of your being created they were made ready. 14 You are the anointed cherub that is covering, and I have set you. . . . . .15 You were faultless in your ways from the day of your being created until unrighteousness was found in you. . . . “Your heart became haughty because of your beauty. You brought your wisdom to ruin on account of your beaming splendor. Onto the earth I will throw you." (Ezekiel 28:13-17)

Satan envied the worship that humans would give to Jehovah, and wanted that worship for himself....but he had to separate the humans from God in order to attain it. He was there in the garden plotting how he would do that....and his plan worked. He deceived the woman in order to force her husband to divide his loyalties....and he chose to side with his disobedient wife who believed the lies of a snake.....but really all he did was appeal to self interest, which still works really well for him. Selfishness has permeated everything humans do on this planet....haven't we all noticed that?


Why does God allow satan to wreak havoc in the lives of people.....even those who do not worship the true God? Think back to what satan said to the woman in Eden.....
The devil asked..."Did God actually say, 'You shall not eat of any tree in the garden'?"
Eve responded..."God said, 'You shall not eat of the fruit of the tree that is in the midst of the garden, neither shall you touch it, lest you die.'" 4 But the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die. 5 For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Why was God holding back a "knowledge of good and evil"? Wasn't it because he did not want anything to spoil the idyllic life he had planned for his human children? Like any good parent, he wanted only the best for them, but the devil wanted what he had no right to take.....and that was their obedience to God. He knew that it carried the death penalty, but he lied to the woman about that and she in turn offered the fruit to Adam, whose choice threw all of us under bus. (Romans 5:12)

As free willed creatures all three had choices.....and each one, for their own reasons chose badly, plunging God's original purpose into a detour that God could not avoid. He allowed the devil to have what he wanted...rulership over the humans...but why would he do that knowing that pain and suffering were sure to follow?

It seems apparent that neither the devil nor the humans could be told the value of obeying God.....even under threat of death....they had to be shown.....so God allowed them all to experience first hand what rulership under satan's control would result in. An object lesson of mammoth proportions from the point of view of an earth dweller, taking thousands of earth years....but that is only a short period for those who live in a timeless realm. (2 Peter 3:8)

The devil was to be the main target of this lesson, as he was the prime mover in the rebellion, proving to the humans, the value of obedience to their loving Creator, and gratitude for all that he did to give the worthy ones among them, an opportunity to come back to him.....to gain back the beautiful world that should have been theirs in the first place.

There will never be unity among all who identify as "Christians" in this world.....those who are "ready for unity" have already attained it by "doing the will of the Father"....and means to understand why we are here....what went wrong, and how God gets us back everything we lost because of Adam's sin. It means taking on the role Jesus gave to his disciples...that of spreading "the good news of the Kingdom, in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations"....before "the end" comes at God's due time.....soon now. (Matt 24:14; Matt 28:19-20)

The devil and his hordes will never steal God's people away again because God will have trained them to put obedience to his commands first in their lives during the rulership of Christ in the Kingdom....those who want to put them second, will not be welcome in the world to come, so we had better learn obedience now before it is too late.

The lake of fire awaits those who cannot, or will not learn obedience to Jehovah. Its a choice, based on our relationship with God, scriptural knowledge, logical thinking, and the examples we have in the Bible of those who did obey God and those who didn't. We have no excuse to be disobedient. Our choices should reflect that as a mindset....a determination NOT to disobey God in anything.

Since watchtower has a heretical way to salvation, you will never be Christian.
You lead people, gullible, unlearned believers into hell.
You preach heresy.
You can get every one of my posts deleted.
I stand for truth.
You and your organization teach people that Jehovah commands angels to worship a created Jesus, when in fact He actually correctly commands angels to worship the deity of Jesus.
Your deal is heresy and a lie.

 

[PS95]

Since watchtower has a heretical way to salvation, you will never be Christian.
You lead people, gullible, unlearned believers into hell.
You preach heresy.
You can get every one of my posts deleted.
I stand for truth.
You and your organization teach people that Jehovah commands angels to worship a created Jesus, when in fact He actually correctly commands angels to worship the deity of Jesus.
Your deal is heresy and a lie.

it's a whole lot worse than that.

 

[rebuilder 454]

My goodness!
Why do you show such vehemence?

In my comments on the reputation of Christendom, did I tell any lies? It is truth.

And i wasn’t applying anything I said to you, personally.
You’re my cousin…

I was encouraging you to consider & question your association with the disobedient leaders of this organization.

When Jesus told His disciples to “love one another”, was it a command? Yes. — John 13:34; 15:12; 15:17

Have Christendom’s religions obeyed His command? For the vast majority, no; not when it mattered the most, like during conflicts.

Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick was candid when he said: “Even in our churches we have put the battle flags . . . With one corner of our mouth we have praised the Prince of Peace and with the other we have glorified war. So well have we succeeded in blending Christ and carnage, the Gospel and organized slaughter, that recently a missionary in an Oriental country, after an address upon Christian goodwill, was taken aside by a native, who said, ‘You must know that the educated people of this country look upon Christianity as a warring, blood-spilling religion.’”

The Bible states that false religion can be recognized by its fruitage: “They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works.”—Titus 1:16.

It’s not for no reason that Jehovah God says “get out” & “separate yourselves, my people”!
2 Corinthians 6:17

Your false religion is in display.
The deity of Jesus is a non negotiable pillar of our faith.
What a farce your man made salvation is.
Paul said cursed is anyone preaching another gospel.
Show me where Jesus cuddled false religion

He anahilated them, complete with calling them vile names.

 

[hies]

My goodness!
Why do you show such vehemence?

In my comments on the reputation of Christendom, did I tell any lies? It is truth.

And i wasn’t applying anything I said to you, personally.
You’re my cousin…

I was encouraging you to consider & question your association with the disobedient leaders of this organization.

When Jesus told His disciples to “love one another”, was it a command? Yes. — John 13:34; 15:12; 15:17

Have Christendom’s religions obeyed His command? For the vast majority, no; not when it mattered the most, like during conflicts.

Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick was candid when he said: “Even in our churches we have put the battle flags . . . With one corner of our mouth we have praised the Prince of Peace and with the other we have glorified war. So well have we succeeded in blending Christ and carnage, the Gospel and organized slaughter, that recently a missionary in an Oriental country, after an address upon Christian goodwill, was taken aside by a native, who said, ‘You must know that the educated people of this country look upon Christianity as a warring, blood-spilling religion.’”

The Bible states that false religion can be recognized by its fruitage: “They publicly declare they know God, but they disown him by their works.”—Titus 1:16.

It’s not for no reason that Jehovah God says “get out” & “separate yourselves, my people”!
2 Corinthians 6:17

How about this one?

Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - Matthew 7:22-23

Who and what were they trusting in? Not in Jesus' grace or sacrifice. But in their works. They didn't trust in Christ, but in themselves, and what they had done.

Now you might say "but I have kept the law! I'm not a worker of lawlessness! I did this, and I did that..."

For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point has become guilty of all of it. - James 2:10

That is why you can be saved ONLY by what Jesus has done for you, and nothing else. Any amount of trust in yourself for your salvation is self-righteous, and will lead to your damnation.

For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. - Ephesians 2:8-9

Not by works. Not by anything YOU do. It is a gift. Also if you have to do something for a gift, it is not a gift. So that no one may boast, or in other words be self-righteous and proud of how great they are compared to everyone else.

This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins. - 1 John 4:10

It's not your love for God that saves you. But His love for you. His sacrifice. His grace.

 

[Aunty Jane]

Since watchtower has a heretical way to salvation, you will never be Christian.

As you judge, you will be judged…..you will remember that one day. Who made you my judge?

You lead people, gullible, unlearned believers into hell.

What is “hell”? Talk about lies……there is no such place.

No one leads people astray better than Christendom does….you will never find as many “unlearned” ones among our brotherhood as you do in Christendom’s fractured religious system. Who has the truth in that hopelessly divided rabble? Please tell us…if Jesus were to drop in tomorrow, who would he say was teaching his truth? He will let us all know soon enough…. (Matt 7:21-23) Are you ready?

You preach heresy.

What if it’s you who preach an ancient heresy that has been around so long, that no one ever thought to question it? Who taught you?

You can get every one of my posts deleted.

I like to leave them there for God to read….blind hatred personified. It’s not new. (John 15:18-21)

I stand for truth.

You think you do……only God can correct you. You won’t like it.

You and your organization teach people that Jehovah commands angels to worship a created Jesus, when in fact He actually correctly commands angels to worship the deity of Jesus.

That is not what the Bible teaches. Angels do not worship Jesus…they never have…and never will….Jesus would not permit it.

Your deal is heresy and a lie.

Perhaps you will eat those words one day…..the real heresy and lies are way older than Jehovah’s Witnesses. All we did was correct them at the time God said they would be corrected…..but some are so ingrained in the lies, that they would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit them….

Be careful….1 Cor 10:12 may just sneak up on you….
You can rant and rave all you like….but you cannot change the truth.
Who told you that what you believe is true in the first place?

 

[hies]

Please tell us…if Jesus were to drop in tomorrow, who would he say was teaching his truth? He will let us all know soon enough…. (Matt 7:21-23) Are you ready?

Yes, and those who trusted in their works to get into heaven (or the new Earth) will be told to depart. See my post directly above yours: AN OPEN LETTER TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

That is not what the Bible teaches. Angels do not worship Jesus…they never have…and never will….Jesus would not permit it.

Hebrews 1:6 and Revelation 5:13 beg to differ. I know your translation corrupts Hebrews 1:6, but in Rev 5:13, Jesus is receiving the exact same worship as the Father by every creature, which includes angels. And technically it would also include Jesus if he were a creatrue, but he isn't.

Perhaps you will eat those words one day…..the real heresy and lies are way older than Jehovah’s Witnesses. All we did was correct them at the time God said they would be corrected…..but some are so ingrained in the lies, that they would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit them….

It was prophesied that some con artist that can't even read Greek would discover and correct the corruption in the NT 1800 years after the fact?

And hell is just separation from God. It's referred to as the second death. If God is good, he has to get rid of evil. And being self-righteous by trusting in your own works to get into heaven (or the new Earth) is evil.

 

[rebuilder 454]

As you judge, you will be judged…..you will remember that one day. Who made you my judge?

What is “hell”? Talk about lies……there is no such place.

No one leads people astray better than Christendom does….you will never find as many “unlearned” ones among our brotherhood as you do in Christendom’s fractured religious system. Who has the truth in that hopelessly divided rabble? Please tell us…if Jesus were to drop in tomorrow, who would he say was teaching his truth? He will let us all know soon enough…. (Matt 7:21-23) Are you ready?

What if it’s you who preach an ancient heresy that has been around so long, that no one ever thought to question it? Who taught you?

I like to leave them there for God to read….blind hatred personified. It’s not new. (John 15:18-21)

You think you do……only God can correct you. You won’t like it.

That is not what the Bible teaches. Angels do not worship Jesus…they never have…and never will….Jesus would not permit it.

Perhaps you will eat those words one day…..the real heresy and lies are way older than Jehovah’s Witnesses. All we did was correct them at the time God said they would be corrected…..but some are so ingrained in the lies, that they would not know the truth if it jumped up and bit them….

Be careful….1 Cor 10:12 may just sneak up on you….
You can rant and rave all you like….but you cannot change the truth.
Who told you that what you believe is true in the first place?

Oh yeah. The Bible says:
"The righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one"
It is you that smears the Holy Book.
That is why watchtower inventedvyour special Bible.
So you can go door to door hoping to bring others into your false "obedience" heresy


Your organization, watchtower, has invented a new gospel.
Knock on doors and ...pooof! You enter your "kingdom" ( there is indeed a kingdom reserved for all of you cultists. That king has a tail, horns and a pitchfork, )
No blood of Jesus necessary in your cursed gospel.
Pure antichrist heretics.
SMH.
YOU, come in here ,expressly ,to muddy up the testimony of Jesus.
Antichrist spirit big time.

 

[hies]

Oh yeah. The Bible says:
"The righteous man judges all things, but he himself is judged of no one"
It is you that smears the Holy Book.
That is why watchtower inventedvyour special Bible.
So you can go door to door hoping to bring others into your false "obedience" heresy


Your organization, watchtower, has invented a new gospel.
Knock on doors and ...pooof! You enter your "kingdom" ( there is indeed a kingdom reserved for all of you cultists. That king has a tail, horns and a pitchfork, )
No blood of Jesus necessary in your cursed gospel.
Pure antichrist heretics.
SMH.
YOU, come in here ,expressly ,to muddy up the testimony of Jesus.
Antichrist spirit big time.

Indeed we must obey Jesus, but that's not what saves us. Obedience is a result of true saving faith.

Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. - Romans 1:5

The JWs have it backwards. They think it's the obedience that saves them. When in actuality, it's the faith that saves, and true saving faith results in obedience.

Thinking you're justified by being obedient makes you a Pharisee, self-righteous, proud, judgemental and is ultimately what killed Christ to begin with.

Whereas thinking you're justified solely by faith in what Jesus did for you will make you grateful, at peace, assured, and out of that gratitude and love you will be obedient, not to earn anything, but to say thank you to God.

Think about it: which is going to produce more Godly people? Those who only do good things for a selfish reason (to be saved), or those who do good out of love and gratitude for what God has done for them?

 

[rebuilder 454]

Indeed we must obey Jesus, but that's not what saves us. Obedience is a result of true saving faith.

Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake. - Romans 1:5

The JWs have it backwards. They think it's the obedience that saves them. When in actuality, it's the faith that saves, and true saving faith results in obedience.

Thinking you're justified by being obedient makes you a Pharisee, self-righteous, proud, judgemental and is ultimately what killed Christ to begin with.

Whereas thinking you're justified solely by faith in what Jesus did for you will make you grateful, at peace, assured, and out of that gratitude and love you will be obedient, not to earn anything, but to say thank you to God.

Think about it: which is going to produce more Godly people? Those who only do good things for a selfish reason (to be saved), or those who do good out of love and gratitude for what God has done for them?

Exactly.
Salvation is a person. Not a doctrine.
Only one admittance to heaven. The blood of Jesus.
Only one that could walk sinless for 30 years.
The God Man Jesus.
Whom Jehovah declared as receiving worship and deity.

 

[MonoBiblical]

The deity of Jesus is a non negotiable pillar of our faith.

And the Jews who think otherwise? Jesus doesn't wake people from the dead.


And concerning James 2:10:
For whoever keeps the whole law but fails in one point, [he]has become guilty G1777 of all the liability[G1777]. - James 2:10
ἔνοχος

Vine's Expository Dictionary: View Entry
TDNT Reference: 2:828,286
KJV Translation Count — Total: 10x
The KJV translates Strong's G1777 in the following manner: in danger of (5x), guilty of (4x), subject to (1x).
Outline of Biblical Usage [?]

1. bound, under obligation, subject to, liable
   1. used of one who is held by, possessed with love, and zeal for anything
   2. in a forensic sense, denoting the connection of a person either with his crime, or with the penalty or trial, or with that against whom or which he has offended
      1. guilty, worthy of punishment
      2. guilty of anything
      3. of the crime
      4. of the penalty
      5. liable to this or that tribunal i.e. the punishment to by imposed by this or that tribunal
      6. of the place where punishment is to be suffered