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Obviously not! The Hindu's have an infinite number of gods, the Judeo-Christians can only afford one or 3, depending on how you look at it.

My question is how many have been to the Ark Encounter and Creation Museum in Kentucky? The Founder, Ken Ham, puts GENESIS 1-11 as foundational. The enemy's LONG TIME hypothesis is profoundly shown to be anti-Scriptural. It's past time Christians educate themselves on the scientific evidence of Creation and the Flood.
yeah rather its time for christains to educate themselves in a book called the BIBLE . cause many are following another jesus
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No--and even all those who say they acknowledge Christ don't acknowledge Christ, because some acknowledge "another Christ".
WHY do ye call me LORD , LORD and yet do not the things that i command .
many lip the name but many do not know HIM or serve HIM my friend .
Just as i once did they walk in darkness with but a tiny bit of head knowledge
about enough to quoate the gospel but knowing not the AUTHOR of our FAITH at all my friend .
I was worst of many of the worst . the scary thing was i could still lip his name .
I was decieved . loved my sin and maybe did a few good works like help the poor and etc . I DID NOT KNOW HIM .
and now in these last and final hours of earth another gospel has come under the guise that it is love and of GOD
but IT IS NOT LOVE OR OF GOD , to merge this people as one , the religoins as one . its father be the devil
and its mother the well favored harlot who has poured her diverse and strange rainbow love
unto the world and the religoins to now merge them as one .
 

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Simple answer, no, they don't. We know there is but one God, our Father YHVH. There is but one way to have fellowship with Him, and that's through His Son Jesus Christ. Anyone who tries to climb over by another way instead of using the gate is deceiving himself. They may claim to worship YHVH, but if they deny the Son, or disobey Him, they're lying.
Many now wear a diverse and strange love covering of many colors . Beleiving this to be
the love covenant of GOD . But it is not love or of GOD .
IT has come to pour its skittles drink of fornicational love unto all tribes and religoins , and denominations
to merge them all as one under what they beleive is GOD and love . only its the devil and his all inclusive harlot
and her cup they do drink from . Her ever strange and many diverse skittle rainbow color
of what it calleth love . ITs a drink i shun and refuse to even put my lips to that cup .
JESUS THE CHRIST alone is whom i shall point too . offering up no other hope , no other name peroid whereby one
can be saved . The WHORE is as the chameleon and she can change her color to blend in with any group known to man .
She comes in with a whores cup of what she calleth love to bring them home to her .
THIS LAMB aint touching that cup . and i will warn agaisnt and its false love TO death or TILL JESUS DO COME , SO HELP ME GOD .
 
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This is a place where we can ask each other questions about the Bible, our Christian faith, the Lord, etc, and give our answers.
Our brother @amigo de christo came up with this idea, to help us all help each other to understand the biblical truth, what is not truth and grow more in our faith.

First question.
Do all religions worship the same God?

Please feel free to leave your answers.
No, I don’t think all religions worship the same God.

Sadly, many who call themselves Christians don’t even know the One true YHVH—and this is obvious because they lack joy and have no faith in His promises so clearly given to us by our Father. They won’t
study the ”little Book” and read it. In other words, they don’t set their eyes on Jesus, the Living Word, in order to get to know the Father.

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

- Hebrews 12:2 (KJV)
 
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not all of ISRAEL are truly of ISRAEL .
What did JESUS call the jews who rejected him as the messiah , who failed to believe on HIM .
YE are of your father the DEVIL . so just like a gentile so too do a jew MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
oh on the text of torah and etc , THAT IS THE GOD WE DO WORSHIP , and we know the jews hold torah .
BUT what again DID JESUS tell the jews who did not beleive on HIM and yet claimed moses , torah and etc
HAD YOU REALLY BELIEVED MOSES you had believed ME for he wrote of me .
THE JEWS can cliam to KNOW GOD
but as a jew called john once wrote , IF one believes not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
they CALL GOD A LIAR . in fact they are anti christ . an anti christ can be either a jew or a gentile .
The flesh of man profits not a man and whether a man was born a gentile or a jew
the flesh profits him nothing . YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
and the born again BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . the unborn and dead BELIEVE NOT HE Is the CHRIST .
HE who is OF GOD , said a jew called john , HEARS US . aka THEY GONNA BELIEVE THAT GOSPEL
HE who is not of GOD , does not hear us , aka THEY REJECT THE GOSPEL of JESUS THE CHRIST .
The jews worship GOD in ignorance . THEY have the torah , they can read the prophets
they have the oracles , ONLY HAD THEY TRULY HEARD THEM , THEY HAD COME TO JESUS THE CHRIST .
OH yes johann , I AM A DEAD STICKLER to the DIRE NEED for anyone who was born of a woman
whether jew or gentile had better BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Many can holler we believe in GOD , only their god dont accept JESUS as THE CHRIST . SO NOW
you see why i did not captilize that other god . cause i know who that one is .
I used to serve that other god , satan , TILL GOD came and drew me to CHRIST , SET ME FREE
from the power of satan and of darkness , INTO THE LIGHT of HIS SON .
IF a man denies JESUS , GUESSS who they denied . GOD HIMSELF . THEY DENIED THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD
if they DENY THE SON . as i am sure you do agree my friend . Just wanted to remind all anyway .
YisraEl the remnant is serving the same Jesus, the same YHVH as believers in Christ.

Rom 9:1 I am telling the truth in Christ, I am not lying, my conscience testifies with me [enlightened and prompted] by the Holy Spirit,
Rom 9:2 that I have great sorrow and unceasing anguish in my heart.
Rom 9:3 For [if it were possible] I would wish that I myself were accursed, [separated, banished] from Christ for the sake [of the salvation] of my brothers, my natural kinsmen, [Exo_32:32]
Rom 9:4 who are Israelites, to whom belongs the adoption as sons, the glory (Shekinah), the [special] covenants [with Abraham, Moses, and David], the giving of the Law, the [system of temple] worship, and the [original] promises. [Exo_4:22; Hos_11:1]
Rom 9:5 To them belong the patriarchs, and from them, according to His natural descent, came the Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed), He who is exalted and supreme over all, God blessed forever. Amen.
Rom 9:6 However, it is not as though God's word has failed [coming to nothing]. For not all who are descended from Israel (Jacob) are [the true] Israel;
Rom 9:7 and they are not all the children of Abraham because they are his descendants [by blood], but [the promise was]: "YOUR DESCENDANTS WILL BE NAMED THROUGH ISAAC" [though Abraham had other sons]. [Gen_21:9-12]
Rom 9:8 That is, it is not the children of the body [Abraham's natural descendants] who are God's children, but it is the children of the promise who are counted as [Abraham's true] descendants.
Rom 9:9 For this is what the promise said: "ABOUT THIS TIME [next year] I WILL COME, AND SARAH SHALL HAVE A SON." [Gen_18:10]
Rom 9:10 And not only that, but this too: Rebekah conceived twin sons by one man [under the same circumstances], by our father Isaac;
Rom 9:11 and though the twins were not yet born and had not done anything either good or bad, so that God's purpose [His choice, His election] would stand, not because of works [done by either child], but because of [the plan of] Him who calls them,
Rom 9:12 it was said to her, "THE OLDER (Esau) WILL SERVE THE YOUNGER (Jacob)." [Gen_25:21-23]
Rom 9:13 As it is written and forever remains written, "JACOB I LOVED (chose, protected, blessed), BUT ESAU I HATED (held in disregard compared to Jacob)." [Mal_1:2-3]
Rom 9:14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice with God? Certainly not!
Rom 9:15 For He says to Moses, "I WILL HAVE MERCY ON WHOMEVER I HAVE MERCY, AND I WILL HAVE COMPASSION ON WHOMEVER I HAVE COMPASSION." [Exo_33:19]
Rom 9:16 So then God's choice is not dependent on human will, nor on human effort [the totality of human striving], but on God who shows mercy [to whomever He chooses--it is His sovereign gift].
Rom 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, "I RAISED YOU UP FOR THIS VERY PURPOSE, TO DISPLAY MY POWER IN [dealing with] YOU, AND SO THAT MY NAME WOULD BE PROCLAIMED IN ALL THE EARTH." [Exo_9:16]
Rom 9:18 So then, He has mercy on whom He wills (chooses), and He hardens [the heart of] whom He wills.
Rom 9:19 You will say to me then, "Why does He still blame me [for sinning]? For who [including myself] has [ever] resisted His will and purpose?"
Rom 9:20 On the contrary, who are you, O man, who answers [arrogantly] back to God and dares to defy Him? Will the thing which is formed say to him who formed it, "Why have you made me like this?" [Isa_29:16; Isa_45:9]
Rom 9:21 Does the potter not have the right over the clay, to make from the same lump [of clay] one object for honorable use [something beautiful or distinctive] and another for common use [something ordinary or menial]?
Rom 9:22 What if God, although willing to show His [terrible] wrath and to make His power known, has tolerated with great patience the objects of His wrath [which are] prepared for destruction? [Pro_16:4]
Rom 9:23 And what if He has done so to make known the riches of His glory to the objects of His mercy, which He has prepared beforehand for glory,
Rom 9:24 including us, whom He also called, not only from among the Jews, but also from among the Gentiles?
Rom 9:25 Just as He says in [the writings of the prophet] Hosea: "I WILL CALL THOSE WHO WERE NOT MY PEOPLE, 'MY PEOPLE,' AND [I will call] HER WHO WAS NOT BELOVED, 'BELOVED.'" [Hos_2:23]
Rom 9:26 "AND IT SHALL BE THAT IN THE PLACE WHERE IT WAS SAID TO THEM, 'YOU ARE NOT MY PEOPLE,' THERE THEY SHALL BE CALLED SONS OF THE LIVING GOD." [Hos_1:10]

Rom 9:27 And Isaiah calls out concerning Israel: "THOUGH THE NUMBER OF THE SONS OF ISRAEL BE LIKE THE SAND OF THE SEA, IT IS ONLY THE REMNANT [a small believing minority] THAT WILL BE SAVED [from God's judgment];
Rom 9:28 FOR THE LORD WILL EXECUTE HIS WORD UPON THE EARTH [He will conclude His dealings with mankind] COMPLETELY AND WITHOUT DELAY." [Isa_10:22-23]
Rom 9:29 It is as Isaiah foretold, "IF THE LORD OF HOSTS HAD NOT LEFT US SEED [future generations from which a believing remnant of Israelites came], WE WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE SODOM, AND WOULD HAVE RESEMBLED GOMORRAH [totally rejected and destroyed]!" [Isa_1:9]
Israel's Unbelief
Rom 9:30 What shall we say then? That Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness [who did not seek salvation and a right relationship with God, nevertheless] obtained righteousness, that is, the righteousness which is produced by faith;
Rom 9:31 whereas Israel, [though always] pursuing the law of righteousness, did not succeed in fulfilling the law. [Isa_51:1]
Rom 9:32 And why not? Because it was not by faith [that they pursued it], but as though it were by works [relying on the merit of their works instead of their faith]. They stumbled over the stumbling Stone [Jesus Christ]. [Isa_8:14; Isa_28:16]
Rom 9:33 As it is written and forever remains written, "BEHOLD I AM LAYING IN ZION A STONE OF STUMBLING AND A ROCK OF OFFENSE; AND HE WHO BELIEVES IN HIM [whoever adheres to, trusts in, and relies on Him] WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED [in his expectations]." [Isa_28:16]
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The church was born at Pentecost. The word church comes from the Septuigant but it is actually th eassembly THE church was not born until Pentecost.
In Hebrew, the term commonly used for "church" is כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset), which means "assembly" or "congregation." However, in the context of the New Testament, the Greek word ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used, which translates to "church" or "gathering."

Church in Hebrew:
כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset):
This term means "assembly" or "congregation." It is used in various contexts in Jewish tradition, including the Knesset, the legislative body of modern Israel.
Biblical Context:
"Christ was in the church in the wilderness":
This phrase references Acts 7:38 (Lexham Bible): "This is the one who was in the congregation (ἐκκλησία) in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai and with our fathers. He received living oracles to give to us."
Here, ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used to describe the assembly or congregation of Israel in the wilderness.
Understanding the Term:
ἐκκλησία (Ekklēsia):

In the New Testament, this Greek term means "church" or "assembly" and refers to a gathered community of believers. It is derived from the verb ἐκκαλέω (ekkaleō), meaning "to call out."
כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset):

While Knesset is used in modern Hebrew for the Israeli parliament, it also signifies any assembly or gathering in biblical and rabbinic literature.

In Hebrew, the term כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset) is the closest equivalent to "church," meaning assembly or congregation. In the New Testament, ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used to refer to the Christian church or assembly. The phrase "Christ was in the church in the wilderness" from Acts 7:38 uses ἐκκλησία to describe the assembly of the Israelites in the wilderness, showing continuity between the Old and New Testament concepts of God's gathered people.
 

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In Hebrew, the term commonly used for "church" is כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset), which means "assembly" or "congregation." However, in the context of the New Testament, the Greek word ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used, which translates to "church" or "gathering."

Church in Hebrew:
כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset):
This term means "assembly" or "congregation." It is used in various contexts in Jewish tradition, including the Knesset, the legislative body of modern Israel.
Biblical Context:
"Christ was in the church in the wilderness":
This phrase references Acts 7:38 (Lexham Bible): "This is the one who was in the congregation (ἐκκλησία) in the wilderness with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai and with our fathers. He received living oracles to give to us."
Here, ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used to describe the assembly or congregation of Israel in the wilderness.
Understanding the Term:
ἐκκλησία (Ekklēsia):

In the New Testament, this Greek term means "church" or "assembly" and refers to a gathered community of believers. It is derived from the verb ἐκκαλέω (ekkaleō), meaning "to call out."
כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset):

While Knesset is used in modern Hebrew for the Israeli parliament, it also signifies any assembly or gathering in biblical and rabbinic literature.

In Hebrew, the term כְּנֶסֶת (Knesset) is the closest equivalent to "church," meaning assembly or congregation. In the New Testament, ἐκκλησία (ekklēsia) is used to refer to the Christian church or assembly. The phrase "Christ was in the church in the wilderness" from Acts 7:38 uses ἐκκλησία to describe the assembly of the Israelites in the wilderness, showing continuity between the Old and New Testament concepts of God's gathered people.
While I agree Gods people in all ages have met or congregated, we must make a distinction between the NT church and the OT assemblies.

The church as defined by the NT is the assembly of those who have been born again and are infilled by the Holy Spirit. the infilling did not take place at all until Pentecost, so there was no church in the OT per se.

The NT church of believers is quantitatively and qualitatively different from the OT gathering of believers.
 
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While I agree Gods people in all ages have met or congregated, we must make a distinction between the NT church and the OT assemblies.

The church as defined by the NT is the assembly of those who have been born again and are infilled by the Holy Spirit. the infilling did not take place at all until Pentecost, so there was no church in the OT per se.

The NT church of believers is quantitatively and qualitatively different from the OT gathering of believers.
I Concur.
 

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Before i write what i write , let me say LET NO MAN WOMAN OR CHILD vote for harris .
But this too is why I REFUSE for to vote for trump and vance . PEROID .
Just cause the man might bring us a better economy dont mean i vote for anyone
who leadeth the church into the common ground interfaith religoin of anti christ .
Let no man , woman or child buy the lie . HOPE IN GOD , TRUST NOT IN MAN .
Thank you for your comments.

Some questions: have you ever voted in a presidential election? If so, for whom and why?
Have you ever voted in any election? If so, for whom and why?

In China (for example) only state-sanctioned churches are permitted. All others are underground. If this is the direction the U.S. Is headed if one party wins, does it still not matter to vote for the party dedicated to freedom, especially the freedom to worship as we choose in a public place?

I, too, have complete faith in God and that He will fulfill His purposes. But let’s not be like that person who was waiting for God to save him during a flood, and wound up drowning after refusing the help of three boats!

Blessings.
 

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The church was born at Pentecost. The word church comes from the Septuigant but it is actually th eassembly THE church was not born until Pentecost.
The church and the assembly were in the wilderness together. The church were the Jewish people who believed God and it was counted to them as righteousness. The assembly was the rebellious Jewish people that hated God and "sought it not by faith"

The only difference between Old Testament Christians and New Testament Christian is in the name they were called and whether they are looking forward to the cross or looking back at the cross. Either way both are saved by grace through faith by the blood of the Lamb.
 
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not all of ISRAEL are truly of ISRAEL .
What did JESUS call the jews who rejected him as the messiah , who failed to believe on HIM .
YE are of your father the DEVIL . so just like a gentile so too do a jew MUST BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
oh on the text of torah and etc , THAT IS THE GOD WE DO WORSHIP , and we know the jews hold torah .
BUT what again DID JESUS tell the jews who did not beleive on HIM and yet claimed moses , torah and etc
HAD YOU REALLY BELIEVED MOSES you had believed ME for he wrote of me .
THE JEWS can cliam to KNOW GOD
but as a jew called john once wrote , IF one believes not the testimony that GOD gave of HIS SON
they CALL GOD A LIAR . in fact they are anti christ . an anti christ can be either a jew or a gentile .
The flesh of man profits not a man and whether a man was born a gentile or a jew
the flesh profits him nothing . YE MUST BE BORN AGAIN .
and the born again BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST . the unborn and dead BELIEVE NOT HE Is the CHRIST .
HE who is OF GOD , said a jew called john , HEARS US . aka THEY GONNA BELIEVE THAT GOSPEL
HE who is not of GOD , does not hear us , aka THEY REJECT THE GOSPEL of JESUS THE CHRIST .
The jews worship GOD in ignorance . THEY have the torah , they can read the prophets
they have the oracles , ONLY HAD THEY TRULY HEARD THEM , THEY HAD COME TO JESUS THE CHRIST .
OH yes johann , I AM A DEAD STICKLER to the DIRE NEED for anyone who was born of a woman
whether jew or gentile had better BELIEVE JESUS IS THE CHRIST .
Many can holler we believe in GOD , only their god dont accept JESUS as THE CHRIST . SO NOW
you see why i did not captilize that other god . cause i know who that one is .
I used to serve that other god , satan , TILL GOD came and drew me to CHRIST , SET ME FREE
from the power of satan and of darkness , INTO THE LIGHT of HIS SON .
IF a man denies JESUS , GUESSS who they denied . GOD HIMSELF . THEY DENIED THE ONE TRUE LIVING GOD
if they DENY THE SON . as i am sure you do agree my friend . Just wanted to remind all anyway .
 

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They slick my friend . very slick . he who has been in the garden knows how to decieve and to allure and will join
the tribes and relgions of earth to be as one .
IT knows how to silence the oppostion . YOU make the voice , or the topics seem BAD .
and that its all about just trying to get along .
SO away with biblical doctrine , away with religion , away with topics that speak truth and of absolute truth .
You silence the sheep by making the one who speaks truth seem as though they are the OPPRESOR
and that those who they correct , THE VICTIM .
HOW do you silence the voice of your oppostion so as none will heed them and at most they think you crazy and hateful .
WELL first you break down the idea there is ABSOLUTE TRUTH
then as you turn it into a liquid
you reshape it into an idea that by all means will be seen as Aboslute truth . even though they cry absolutely there is no absolute truth .
YOU BRING IN a common concept that all humanity has . That is the idea of doing good to others and feeding the poor etc .
now even the false religoins believe that , EVEN CHRIST taught to do good to others and etc .
BUT YOU USE his teachings in a way , to support your view and to contradict Many other teachings oF SAID JESUS .
YOU find the concept all religoins had in common . AND EVERY RELIGOIN does teach about doing good works
and doing good to others . SO THEN you PUT the focus ON THAT
and all the while you make doctrine seem less and less important , more in the way and you make your version of love
seem as though ITS THE ONLY WAY . the only way to attain even world peace n safety .
And everyone wants a piece of that pie . THE ONLY PROBLEM IS
JESUS THE CHRIST , THE DIRE NEED TO REPENT and BELIEVE ON HIM and ALL HIS TEACHINGS
GETS REMOVED . because if one says JESUS BE THE ONLY way , and a muslims says HIS way be the only way
and a etc says, THEN HOW CAN THEY UNITE . SO YOU MAKE DOCRTRINES SEEM not important and this other love stuff as THE GOAL
HOW do you convince the world and its religoins to serve you .
HOW do you get control of the world .
BY DOING as i wrote above . GIVE THEM an idea , a love , a common concept of what in part all teach
MERGE THEM UNDER THAT . break down all core fundamental beliefs .
EVER wonder why you heard key concepts like , BREAKING DOWN WALLS , BRIDGE BUILDERS
FINDING COMMON GROUND . THESE FOLKS KNOW how to present it to each relgioin and each denomination
as well as through media , education and science and etc . THEY BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS .
Satan is very wise my friend . and these men have no idea its who they been following either .
EVEN the church , in large has become the enemy of biblical truth , of that GOD and HIS CHRIST
and yet have no idea they have . IF JESUS were to return as a man
and the apostles wtih him and then paul too , and they came into most churches
GUESS what they would be told . AWAY WITH YOU HATERS , you know neither GOD , JESUS THE CHRIST OR LOVE .
THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER my friend . WE BEEN DUPED for quite some time from withein even christendom
 
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The church and the assembly were in the wilderness together. The church were the Jewish people who believed God and it was counted to them as righteousness. The assembly was the rebellious Jewish people that hated God and "sought it not by faith"

The only difference between Old Testament Christians and New Testament Christian is in the name they were called and whether they are looking forward to the cross or looking back at the cross. Either way both are saved by grace through faith by the blood of the Lamb.
Sorry but that is incorrect.

OT people had no knowledge of Jesus nor that their Messiah would be crucified for their sins. they also did not have the indwelling of the Holy spirit, but only the on dwelling.

But most important is what Jesus Himself said:

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus did not say "keep building" or "continue building" or "will add on".

He said will build, future.
 

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Sorry but that is incorrect.

OT people had no knowledge of Jesus nor that their Messiah would be crucified for their sins. they also did not have the indwelling of the Holy spirit, but only the on dwelling.

But most important is what Jesus Himself said:

Matthew 16:18
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Jesus did not say "keep building" or "continue building" or "will add on".

He said will build, future.
We can agree to disagree on this one.
 

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They slick my friend . very slick . he who has been in the garden knows how to decieve and to allure and will join
the tribes and relgions of earth to be as one .
IT knows how to silence the oppostion . YOU make the voice , or the topics seem BAD .
and that its all about just trying to get along
They slick my friend . very slick . he who has been in the garden knows how to decieve and to allure and will join
the tribes and relgions of earth to be as one .
IT knows how to silence the oppostion . YOU make the voice , or the topics seem BAD .
and that its all about just trying to get along .
SO away with biblical doctrine , away with religion , away with topics that speak truth and of absolute truth .
You silence the sheep by making the one who speaks truth seem as though they are the OPPRESOR
and that those who they correct , THE VICTIM .
HOW do you silence the voice of your oppostion so as none will heed them and at most they think you crazy and hateful .
WELL first you break down the idea there is ABSOLUTE TRUTH
then as you turn it into a liquid
you reshape it into an idea that by all means will be seen as Aboslute truth . even though they cry absolutely there is no absolute truth .
YOU BRING IN a common concept that all humanity has . That is the idea of doing good to others and feeding the poor etc .
now even the false religoins believe that , EVEN CHRIST taught to do good to others and etc .
BUT YOU USE his teachings in a way , to support your view and to contradict Many other teachings oF SAID JESUS .
YOU find the concept all religoins had in common . AND EVERY RELIGOIN does teach about doing good works
and doing good to others . SO THEN you PUT the focus ON THAT
and all the while you make doctrine seem less and less important , more in the way and you make your version of love
seem as though ITS THE ONLY WAY . the only way to attain even world peace n safety .
And everyone wants a piece of that pie . THE ONLY PROBLEM IS
JESUS THE CHRIST , THE DIRE NEED TO REPENT and BELIEVE ON HIM and ALL HIS TEACHINGS
GETS REMOVED . because if one says JESUS BE THE ONLY way , and a muslims says HIS way be the only way
and a etc says, THEN HOW CAN THEY UNITE . SO YOU MAKE DOCRTRINES SEEM not important and this other love stuff as THE GOAL
HOW do you convince the world and its religoins to serve you .
HOW do you get control of the world .
BY DOING as i wrote above . GIVE THEM an idea , a love , a common concept of what in part all teach
MERGE THEM UNDER THAT . break down all core fundamental beliefs .
EVER wonder why you heard key concepts like , BREAKING DOWN WALLS , BRIDGE BUILDERS
FINDING COMMON GROUND . THESE FOLKS KNOW how to present it to each relgioin and each denomination
as well as through media , education and science and etc . THEY BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS .
Satan is very wise my friend . and these men have no idea its who they been following either .
EVEN the church , in large has become the enemy of biblical truth , of that GOD and HIS CHRIST
and yet have no idea they have . IF JESUS were to return as a man
and the apostles wtih him and then paul too , and they came into most churches
GUESS what they would be told . AWAY WITH YOU HATERS , you know neither GOD , JESUS THE CHRIST OR LOVE .
THIS IS NO LAUGHING MATTER my friend . WE BEEN DUPED for quite some time from withein even christendom
Praise the Lord.
 
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We can agree to disagree on this one.
I have a question. I have never asked this as of yet to someone who believes the church existed in the OT. What do you base it on? It has to be more than the use of the word "ekklesia" in the Greek Septuigant for the assembly in the wilderness.

Ekklesia means a called assembly. It came to refer to the church through massi usage in NT times.

Christian means a partisan of Jesus. How can there be Christians in the OT when no one knew who Jesus was?
 

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I have a question. I have never asked this as of yet to someone who believes the church existed in the OT. What do you base it on? It has to be more than the use of the word "ekklesia" in the Greek Septuigant for the assembly in the wilderness.

Ekklesia means a called assembly. It came to refer to the church through massi usage in NT times.

Christian means a partisan of Jesus. How can there be Christians in the OT when no one knew who Jesus was?

Indeed, Jesus specifically said He would build His church upon the rock of things coming from the Father in spirit.

Which is to say, His church is a spiritual temple and body, not of the stones or flesh and blood portrayed by the house of Israel: "The spiritual is not first, but the natural, and afterward the spiritual" (1 Corinthians 15:46). "It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing" (John 6:63).
 
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I have a question. I have never asked this as of yet to someone who believes the church existed in the OT. What do you base it on? It has to be more than the use of the word "ekklesia" in the Greek Septuigant for the assembly in the wilderness.

Ekklesia means a called assembly. It came to refer to the church through massi usage in NT times.

Christian means a partisan of Jesus. How can there be Christians in the OT when no one knew who Jesus was?
It is more than “Christ was in the church in the wilderness “ but that is the verse that made me dig deeper. Here’s what I found.

1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

Exo 19:5 Now therefore, if ye will obey my voice indeed, and keep my covenant, then ye shall be a peculiar treasure unto me above all people: for all the earth is mine:

These two verses are talking about the same specific group of people, those who love God and keep his covenant. In the Old Testament the group is known as “a peculiar treasure” in the New Testament the group is known as the church.

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Mat 12:4 How he entered into the house of God, and did eat the shewbread, which was not lawful for him to eat, neither for them which were with him, but only for the priests?

This one is a little harder to see but that verse is telling us that David and his men were blameless because it was only for the priests to eat the shewbread. We’ll if David and his men were blameless then they had to be priests, this kind of priest - Rev 1:6 And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.

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These verses describe Old Testament believer’s in christ (Christians) partaking in “ the blood and body” of Christ.

1Co 10:3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
1Co 10:4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
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The church has always existed, there has always been a “called out” group of people. The church was hidden in the Old Testament but it was revealed in the New Testament.

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You mentioned that no one knew of Christ in the Old Testament but all of the Old Testament people knew the messiah was coming and that he was coming to save them from their sins.

In Galatians we’re told the GOSPEL was preached to Abraham.

Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.

In Isaiah the plan of salvation is laid out.

Isa 53:3 He is despised and rejected of men; a man of sorrows, and acquainted with grief: and we hid as it were our faces from him; he was despised, and we esteemed him not.
Isa 53:4 Surely he hath borne our griefs, and carried our sorrows: yet we did esteem him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted.
Isa 53:5 But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.
 
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Vote for the imperfect David among them, and so serve Him whose strength is made perfect in weakness among the fallen.
Trump is in no way like King david . I do understand why anyone would not vote harris .
But scott , come now this goes way too far my friend .
Had trump even been close at all to king david
he had never have dared to even do some of what he has done . You do realize
that they all pretty much beleive in this every religoin serves the same GOD etc .
The lie that captivates the entire world to merge as one under what they all think is GOD but it sure aint GOD .
You have to realize what the REAL agenda has been . Its not politics
not in the old sense of the word anyway . The agenda
is to find common ground in order to get all to simply come together and in time will beleive
they all serve the same God . Now the real goal behind this
was to unify the religoins and even non religious to unify
under a concept of love and of what the religoins will see as love and of GOD .
But what will this love idea really serve , A one world agenda scott .
Its not being sold as a religoin but rather as its love and of God etc .
They , or i should say the dark one who works through them ,
Has come to preach a concept that all religoins and even non religious can relate too .
Love and doing good works . Now its not really the love of GOD , but of the world .
These politicans are all behind this . We get kept distracted by their sleight of differences in certain politics
and by those sleights they are using the idea to unify with the false religoins .
They are tricking both sides .
The goal is and was to get the religions to unify , to convince us to become unequally yoked
so as the lasts one will fall into the trap and become convinced in time that all religoins must serve the same GOD
Now the end result , or so they think , will be to have remolded
the minds of the peoples into a concept that will serve the agenda of the one world govt .
And guess what , NOT a one of them will realize it . Not even the ones
who cry out against the idea of a one world religoin or a one world govt
CAUSE ITS ALL OVER OUR CAMP TOO . they holler against a one world govt and relgion
and yet have NO IDEA this common ground crap IS OF THE ONE WORLD GOVT .
its like a mad house my friend .
 
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