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Well that is one of many many major differences between the Old and New Testament saints.

Anopther huge one is that Israel was and will be again the wife of Jehovah while the church is the espoused to Jesus and we await our wedding day.
TRUE ISRAEL has always been the bride of JEHOVAH .
the problem is not all of israel IS OF ISRAEL . true ISRAEL always has been and always will be the BRIDE OF CHRIST .
There is no bride of JEHOVA and different bride of CHRIST . EITHER ONE IS OF JESUS THE CHRIST
or guess what , THEY AINT TRULY OF ISRAEL .
even paul spells that one out . he aint even a jew , truly a jew , which is outward in the flesh circumcision .
THESE are not the children of GOD . so they sure as heck as the BRIDE OF GOD EITHER .
men are screwing things up as usual .
THERE IS ONLY ONE BRIDE of GOD , THE BRIDE OF CHRIST , and only BELIEVERS BE THAT BRIDE
whether jew or gentile . many gentiles just like many jews are gonna wail ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
cause they rejected JESUS THE CHRIST . and if a jew rejects JESUS or a gentile rejectes JESUS
THEY JUST DENIED AND REJECTED and PROMOTED TOTAL REBELLION and WAR against GOD HIMSELF .
GET BACK to the gospel church . GET back to preaching the gospel . THERE IS ONLY ONE HOPE
and only one means a way TO BE SAVED , BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST OF GOD .
 

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Through the presence of the Holy Spirit among them. Those of Old who believed the Prophecies concerning the coming Messiah/Savior believed through the same power according to grace through faith that believers of the New Covenant do. The Holy Spirit was not yet poured out liberally to be in them, but He has always been among believers of all nations.

John 14:17 (KJV) Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Exodus 29:45-46 (KJV)
And I will dwell among the children of Israel, and will be their God. And they shall know that I am the LORD their God, that brought them forth out of the land of Egypt, that I may dwell among them: I am the LORD their God.
As for the Holy spirit, there is also a major difference between the saints of the Old and the saints of the New.

In the Old, the Holy Spirit only on -dwelt believers and could leave.
In teh New the Spirit indwells the believer and seals them until the day of redemption and will never leave.
 

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True. and all true saints believed on jesus when He came. But people were not saved in teh Old by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for their sins.
Those who died in faith , BEFORE HIS DEATH BURIAL AND RESSURECTION , DIED STILL havingfaith .
SO yes your right they were saved too .
THEY DID TRUST IN A COMING SAVOIR who would save ISRAEL and cleanse her from her sins . THEY DID believe that .
Many kings and many prophets looked for his day and did not see it , they died in faith
Many kings and prophets have desired to see what you SEE , said JESUS .
OH Their were sheep all right , even long before JESUS came to earth .
As you know that my friend .
But what scares the bejangles out of me for this generation
is they think muslims serve the same GOD we do .
The truth is muslims and all other religoins do serve the same god .
BUT ITS NOT THE GOD we DO . hence it dont get captilzed .
Had you beleived moses you would have BELIEVED ME . so the if even the jews got the boot
even though they claimes moses , abraham , that GOD was theri father .
DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH for the muslims . THEY too can claim oh we are of abraham
we of ishmael , we hold to torah , we believe moses . NO THEY DONT .
Had they actually believed torah , moses , the prophets , THEY WOULD NOT HAVE DENIED JESUS IS THE CHRIST
the SON OF GOD . DONT BUY into the abraham peace accords . cause JESUS Didnt even give unbelieving jews a pass
HE said your father be the devil . SO DONT hold out for the muslims claims either , ITS ALL IN VAIN .
TIME TO PREACH CHRIST JESUS AGAIN .
 

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TRUE ISRAEL has always been the bride of JEHOVAH .
the problem is not all of israel IS OF ISRAEL . true ISRAEL always has been and always will be the BRIDE OF CHRIST .
There is no bride of JEHOVA and different bride of CHRIST . EITHER ONE IS OF JESUS THE CHRIST
or guess what , THEY AINT TRULY OF ISRAEL .
even paul spells that one out . he aint even a jew , truly a jew , which is outward in the flesh circumcision .
THESE are not the children of GOD . so they sure as heck as the BRIDE OF GOD EITHER .
men are screwing things up as usual .
THERE IS ONLY ONE BRIDE of GOD , THE BRIDE OF CHRIST , and only BELIEVERS BE THAT BRIDE
whether jew or gentile . many gentiles just like many jews are gonna wail ON THE DAY OF THE LORD
cause they rejected JESUS THE CHRIST . and if a jew rejects JESUS or a gentile rejectes JESUS
THEY JUST DENIED AND REJECTED and PROMOTED TOTAL REBELLION and WAR against GOD HIMSELF .
GET BACK to the gospel church . GET back to preaching the gospel . THERE IS ONLY ONE HOPE
and only one means a way TO BE SAVED , BELIEVE YE IN JESUS THE CHRIST OF GOD .
You do not understand the biblical difference between being espoused, being a bride and being a wife. In the Jewish culture all three were different and had different time periods when the women were called each.

Israel was called the Wife of Jehovah and Israel was also given a bill of divorcement from Jehovah, He will remarry Israel once again.

The church is engaged to Jesus and we are not married yet. Learn from the parable herew.

Matthew 22
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22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

The King is god the Father and the Son is jesus! The church is the bride for the Son! The king has his wife- Israel!
 

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You do not understand the biblical difference between being espoused, being a bride and being a wife. In the Jewish culture all three were different and had different time periods when the women were called each.

Israel was called the Wife of Jehovah and Israel was also given a bill of divorcement from Jehovah, He will remarry Israel once again.

The church is engaged to Jesus and we are not married yet. Learn from the parable herew.

Matthew 22​

King James Version​

22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

The King is god the Father and the Son is jesus! The church is the bride for the Son! The king has his wife- Israel!
i know the difference between being espoused to be married
verses finally being married . Their is a peroid of time that the jews held too
wherein a wife was espoused to a man , for example mary or others . not yet married
but are espoused to be married .
BUT Not a muslim one or unbeliever have any part or inheritance in any lott of that matter
THEY espoused to only the darkness and the dark one .
THUS YEAH ITS TIME TO PREACH THE GOSPEL to all that do have breath .
The bride of the harlot grows huge now . the bride of CHRIST , which is both beliving jew and gentile
is quite the smaller in number . OH BUT the children of the Harlot , that well favored harlot
are far more than SHE WHO HAS A HUSBAND , aka JESUS THE CHRIST .
The blood of all them false religoins and unrepentant sinners
who we saw in error and did not correct , IS ON US PARDNER . you remember that .
I am free from the blood of all men for i have not failed to shunned to delcare .....................
SO if folks let rainbow holders just sit in their churches week after week
saying nothing to correct them
OR if one sees a muslim and hugs him and says hey we all worship the same GOD \lets just hug and find common ground
THEY BLOOD IS ON YOU . love corrects . it dont just hug and say all is well .
 

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You do not understand the biblical difference between being espoused, being a bride and being a wife. In the Jewish culture all three were different and had different time periods when the women were called each.

Israel was called the Wife of Jehovah and Israel was also given a bill of divorcement from Jehovah, He will remarry Israel once again.

The church is engaged to Jesus and we are not married yet. Learn from the parable herew.

Matthew 22​

King James Version​

22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

The King is god the Father and the Son is jesus! The church is the bride for the Son! The king has his wife- Israel!
The remarriage to israel , IS those IN JESUS THE CHRIST , not the jews who rejected him .
OH he has set up a new covenant all right . ITS BELIEVE YE IN JESUS .
The jews will face the same damanation as do a gentile who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST . the same one .
And many gonna wail . wail and howl and howl and wail , wishing to GOD and all that is holy
they had not rejected JESUS THE CHRIST . that do include every jew who denied him just as it do every gentile too .
TIME TO PREACH that gospel . and not the social justice junk trash , I mean the real ONE .
 

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Well that is one of many many major differences between the Old and New Testament saints.

Anopther huge one is that Israel was and will be again the wife of Jehovah while the church is the espoused to Jesus and we await our wedding day.

Do you doubt Christ when He says, I and my father are one?

John 10:30 (KJV) I and my Father are one.
 

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True. and all true saints believed on jesus when He came. But people were not saved in teh Old by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for their sins.

All people who are saved are saved and have been saved by grace through faith in Christ Jesus our Lord, who is and always shall be the Messiah/Savior of whosoever believed He would come, and also whosoever believes He has come. Do you believe the Old Covenant saints were saved another way?
 
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As for the Holy spirit, there is also a major difference between the saints of the Old and the saints of the New.

In the Old, the Holy Spirit only on -dwelt believers and could leave.
In teh New the Spirit indwells the believer and seals them until the day of redemption and will never leave.

The Spirit of Old dwelt with/among His people. Now, since the advent of Christ, He dwells within His people. Both are still eternally saved the same way by grace through faith.
 
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True. and all true saints believed on jesus when He came. But people were not saved in teh Old by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus for their sins.
but NOW WE MUST BELEIVE IT . paul knew it andpreached it , peter knew it and preached it they all did .
HOW is one saved .
He believes from the heart that GOD ROSE JESUS FROM THE DEAD
HE confesses JESUS by the mouth . Dont let them fool us into trying to believe other relgioins gonna be okay .
THEY AINT . oh dear , oh me and oh my THEY AINT . Now to the trenches
IF we want these poor souls who walk in darkness and are under the sway of satan
to be saved , PREACH JESUS THE CHRIST . cause their religions their gods , AINT GONNA SAVE a darn one of them
no matter if they hugged and fed some poor folks .
 

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You do not understand the biblical difference between being espoused, being a bride and being a wife. In the Jewish culture all three were different and had different time periods when the women were called each.

Israel was called the Wife of Jehovah and Israel was also given a bill of divorcement from Jehovah, He will remarry Israel once again.

The church is engaged to Jesus and we are not married yet. Learn from the parable herew.

Matthew 22​

King James Version​

22 And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2 The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,
3 And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4 Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5 But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6 And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7 But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.
8 Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9 Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10 So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.
11 And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12 And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13 Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
14 For many are called, but few are chosen.

The King is god the Father and the Son is jesus! The church is the bride for the Son! The king has his wife- Israel!
that last line sure did put a bit of fear into my heart . you actually make it sound like We got TWO GODS
not just ONE . THE WIFE OF JESUS who is alpha and omega . just a friendly reminder my dear friend .
GOD dont have one wife and JESUS another . that sounds a bit scary to me . Maybe you can try and clear that up a bit .
We will let the very words of CHRIST HIMSELF clear up this matter .
ALL THAT THE FATHER HAS ARE MINE . yeah . lets keep that in mind shall we .
 
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that last line sure did put a bit of fear into my heart . you actually make it sound like We got TWO GODS
not just ONE . THE WIFE OF JESUS who is alpha and omega . just a friendly reminder my dear friend .
GOD dont have one wife and JESUS another . that sounds a bit scary to me . Maybe you can try and clear that up a bit .
 
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Notice it says SPIRIT and TRUTH , not another spirit that spouts lies .
Sister i am totally scared to death for this people and their leaders . THEY GOT NO idea
what is to occur unto them on the day of the LORD , if they do not repent asap .
Two great evils have occured within the massive majority of christendom .
THE priests and leaders prosphey lies unto this people
and the people love to have it so .
NONE does preach the words of GOD . FOR HAD THEY PREACHED THE WORDS of GOD
the people would have repented of their evil .
They have prophsied smooth things to this people
and have Turned away from teh HOLY one Of israel and of his words in the scrips .
And if a man does enter in amongst them
and brings the words of TRUTH to cause correction , that man makes himself a prey to their teeth .
But look again sister , oh look again
and ye shall see far worse things they do in the dark chambers of their churches
The men hold up rainbows
and kiss korans and budda statues and the gospel is removed
and the SON OF MAN TROD UNDER FOOT for a love that they believe is of GOD .
And the people chant , GOD is love but know neither GOD OR LOVE .
The leaders promise the wicked life and none does repent of his wickendess .
WHAT THE JEWS DID , CHRISTENDOM IS DOING SISTER . ITS DOING IT RIGHT NOW
and i am warning us JUDGMENT IS AT THE DOOR and soon many will wail .
And their gods and their god of this so called love that created this sin accepting broad path to GOD
WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DELIVER THEM from the WRATH O GOD and of the lamb WHOM THEY DENIED .
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Trump is in no way like King david . I do understand why anyone would not vote harris .
But scott , come now this goes way too far my friend .
Had trump even been close at all to king david
he had never have dared to even do some of what he has done . You do realize
that they all pretty much beleive in this every religoin serves the same GOD etc .
The lie that captivates the entire world to merge as one under what they all think is GOD but it sure aint GOD .
You have to realize what the REAL agenda has been . Its not politics
not in the old sense of the word anyway . The agenda
is to find common ground in order to get all to simply come together and in time will beleive
they all serve the same God . Now the real goal behind this
was to unify the religoins and even non religious to unify
under a concept of love and of what the religoins will see as love and of GOD .
But what will this love idea really serve , A one world agenda scott .
Its not being sold as a religoin but rather as its love and of God etc .
They , or i should say the dark one who works through them ,
Has come to preach a concept that all religoins and even non religious can relate too .
Love and doing good works . Now its not really the love of GOD , but of the world .
These politicans are all behind this . We get kept distracted by their sleight of differences in certain politics
and by those sleights they are using the idea to unify with the false religoins .
They are tricking both sides .
The goal is and was to get the religions to unify , to convince us to become unequally yoked
so as the lasts one will fall into the trap and become convinced in time that all religoins must serve the same GOD
Now the end result , or so they think , will be to have remolded
the minds of the peoples into a concept that will serve the agenda of the one world govt .
And guess what , NOT a one of them will realize it . Not even the ones
who cry out against the idea of a one world religoin or a one world govt
CAUSE ITS ALL OVER OUR CAMP TOO . they holler against a one world govt and relgion
and yet have NO IDEA this common ground crap IS OF THE ONE WORLD GOVT .
its like a mad house my friend .
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There is more going on than meets the eye. But the fight has always been between good and evil. Love as common ground is just a toe in the door, first things first-- If we can agree on love, then perhaps we can stand together against the common enemy of evil. Then, perhaps we can work on the details and the wrongs among those who wrongly think all love is good love, and all gods are good gods.

Being wrong is not categorically against God, it's just wrong. God is working on that.

Meanwhile, the fight against evil is now operating through an alliance of nations who prefer good over evil. As we speak military covert ops are eradicating evil strongholds around the world--secretly, in order to minimize chaos. Trump is a volunteer front man doing the work of an international coalition of military generals for good against the armies of evil.

A vote for Trump is a vote for good.

"I call heaven and earth as witnesses today against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore choose life, that both you and your descendants may live" (Deuteronomy 30:19).​
But choosing the Tree of Life means we must not choose the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. It may be so that there are things going on covertly in this world as you say.....but all that is God's business I believe - and He is God and we are not - He is ruling and reigning and dealing with government authorities and raising/lowering kings and kingdoms according to His will and wisdom. And He is a God who sends both good and evil at various times/place for His purposes etc. We must not believe that He intends for the church to put down our ploughshares and take up swords to join a crusade of bloodshed. Our weapons are not carnal. Even David could not build the Father's house because he had blood on his hands. We as believers need to especially guard our hearts in these days.
 
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In teh OT it was one single nation called Israel.

In the New Testament it is the people from all nations called the body of Christ/bride of Christ/ church.

OT saints are not part of the body of Christ nor are part of the bride of Christ.

Even JOhn the Baptist recognized he was not part of the bride of christ. He called himself the friend of the bridegroom.
Bible says that they (OT saints) would not be made perfect without us. Jesus went to the place of the dead after He died and preached the gospel to the souls there. They received Christ after they died. OT saints as well as even ancient Gentile saints who had faith are all part of the body/bride of Christ and "commonwealth" of the Israel of God.
 

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Well that is one of many many major differences between the Old and New Testament saints.

Anopther huge one is that Israel was and will be again the wife of Jehovah while the church is the espoused to Jesus and we await our wedding day.
No man can come to the Father but by Me, Jesus said. An Apostle wrote that if you have not the Son you have not the Father either. And remember these things were preached and taught to the Jews/Israel "first" before the Gentile. The only way anyone belonging to Israel after the flesh can be part of the bride/wife of Jehovah God is through Christ. Bride and wife are the same thing. There are many bridal references in the OT.
 

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The remarriage to israel , IS those IN JESUS THE CHRIST , not the jews who rejected him .
OH he has set up a new covenant all right . ITS BELIEVE YE IN JESUS .
The jews will face the same damanation as do a gentile who denies JESUS IS THE CHRIST . the same one .
And many gonna wail . wail and howl and howl and wail , wishing to GOD and all that is holy
they had not rejected JESUS THE CHRIST . that do include every jew who denied him just as it do every gentile too .
TIME TO PREACH that gospel . and not the social justice junk trash , I mean the real ONE .
Amen. Those OT passages referring to the re-gathering of Israel etc were looking ahead to the coming Messiah/Christ and His gospel. They are gathered back to God through Christ the Shepherd of their and our souls. Jesus said He came looking for those lost sheep.
 
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They aer soliders of interfaith . Vance has well admitted
it was his hindu wife who led him back to his so called christian faith .
THIS is all a ploy to get us to beleive in time that we do worship the same GOD in different ways .
IT cometh of anti christ . ITS the plan . THEY are doing this ON PURPOSE .
Unequally yoked they may be, but love never fails. His wife supported him because she loves him and will not prohibit him from worshipping/practicing a belief in a higher being.
To Hindus, they do not know the true God, they believe in many and so identify will many. This may be partiallu why she had no objections and actually encouraged him to pick one. But there could be another reason, an openness to Christ.
God works in mysterious ways. Can He draw someone to himself through another religion? Maybr He guides them through that religion to come to realizing it's futility and emptiness; then He proceeds to open up another passage. ???
JD Vance did not get drawn to Christ from reading The Vedas. Faith comes by the Word, Jesus and the Bible. But likely God first had to open his heart and fill it with love, the love of a woman and then wirk through that love. For God is LOVE. Then unbeknownst to her, He guided JD to the God of the Bible, while she encouraged him to do so.
Now since they are married, what happens in the end is quite wonderful and merciful. "You and your household will be saved".( Acts16:31)
We do not know what is in Mrs. Vance's heart now. She may be following her religion to honor and respect her parents, (as some do who attend Christian churches); and not to cause any descension. Maybe she really has doubts about her religion she does not share with her parents, a secret admiration and i terest in Jesus?. Welcoming Christianity into her home is an open door to Jesus and in time she will turn. So she will be saved at the end of their story because it is God's promise.
You need to stop being so judgmental because really you don't have a clue with what God is doing in person's life nor where they are going! Do you have the Book of Life in front of you so that you can open it and examine who's in it or not? NO.
 

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Unequally yoked they may be, but love never fails. His wife supported him because she loves him and will not prohibit him from worshipping/practicing a belief in a higher being.
To Hindus, they do not know the true God, they believe in many and so identify will many. This may be partiallu why she had no objections and actually encouraged him to pick one. But there could be another reason, an openness to Christ.
God works in mysterious ways. Can He draw someone to himself through another religion? Maybr He guides them through that religion to come to realizing it's futility and emptiness; then He proceeds to open up another passage. ???
JD Vance did not get drawn to Christ from reading The Vedas. Faith comes by the Word, Jesus and the Bible. But likely God first had to open his heart and fill it with love, the love of a woman and then wirk through that love. For God is LOVE. Then unbeknownst to her, He guided JD to the God of the Bible, while she encouraged him to do so.
Now since they are married, what happens in the end is quite wonderful and merciful. "You and your household will be saved".( Acts16:31)
We do not know what is in Mrs. Vance's heart now. She may be following her religion to honor and respect her parents, (as some do who attend Christian churches); and not to cause any descension. Maybe she really has doubts about her religion she does not share with her parents, a secret admiration and i terest in Jesus?. Welcoming Christianity into her home is an open door to Jesus and in time she will turn. So she will be saved at the end of their story because it is God's promise.
You need to stop being so judgmental because really you don't have a clue with what God is doing in person's life nor where they are going! Do you have the Book of Life in front of you so that you can open it and examine who's in it or not? NO.
The church seems to be dropping the bar lower and lower generally so it makes me wary. Being a Christian is due to an act of the Holy Spirit when He gives us faith not of our own that no man may boast. It isn't due to an act of man or a cultural upbringing or a mental decision someone makes with their carnal mind. It is deeper than that. No we don't always know someone's heart but we can discern their fruits and their testimony. To begin with perhaps we can discern whether this person testifies to the LORD bringing about a change of heart and life, or does he only testify about himself and/or wife and what they decided/chose to do or believe. There are superficial conversions and tares among the wheat so there is a need for wisdom and not to be naive.