Absolute truth - Do we know what it is?

[MA2444]

Thanks. I appreciate that.
Everyone likes to jump to conclusions instead of asking me what I meant.

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It comes with the territory of writing alot I guess. Are you backtracking now? Or was you just not being clear enough about trusting the Lord?

What did you mean then?

 

[Behold]

No. You could apologize for twisting my words in a misquote and lying about me.

Now....Here again is your quote.....cut and pasted..

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A.) St. SteVen said:

"""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife."""


You just told any unbeliever to wait till they die to deal with their sin, and their Salvation.
So, if anyone does this, and they died today, you just sent them to HELL like a bullet.

That's on you, deceiver, forever.

 

[St. SteVen]

I cut and pasted exactly what you stated.

I Quoted you, as a cut and paste.

Readers can see your post #160

St. SteVen said:
This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.

You just posted that its a mistake to Trust in Christ while you are alive.

I said no such thing.

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[St. SteVen]

You just told any unbeliever to wait till they die to deal with their sin, and their Salvation.

1) That's not what I said.
2) This is a Christian forum. I wasn't speaking to unbelievers.

This is why people hate Christians. They don't want to be like you.
Which is more off-putting than anything I could write.

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[Behold]

St. SteVen said:
This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.

You just posted the deception again.

You just stated again.. the same Quote...... that is telling a READER.. its a mistake to assume they HAVE to trust in Christ before they die..

Here is WHY you are telling them this incredible Cross Denying lie.

@St. SteVen said.

""""""Everyone is already saved due to the completed work of the atonement.""""""


Listen carefully....... deceiver...

When you teach that everyone is already saved, you are denying that they have to Trust in Christ., and to teach that blasphemy is to send someone to Hell, if they are an unbeliever, and they believed what you told them today, and they died today.
They would die, in their sin, unforgiven, and meet God who will judge them as an UNBELIEVER , never born again.
That is what you are teaching them to do.

If a Mod on this forum wakes up and realizes what you are doing here...then that will be a fine day for this Forum.

 

[St. SteVen]

What did you mean then?

Here's what I wrote to you in post #139.

This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.
There will an Age of Restoration where all this is sorted out. Jesus will not lose anyone.

We know that no one can come to God unless he draws them. We call these the Elect, predestined for life. (here and now)
What about everyone else? Those that God did not choose to draw to himself? Predestined to destruction?

Acts 3:21 NIV
Heaven must receive him until the time comes for God to restore everything,
as he promised long ago through his holy prophets.

I asked @Behold a question which he refused (neglected?) to answer.
"By what means are we saved?"

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[St. SteVen]

So, you are lying to these people...

You are lying to us about what I said?
Somehow you are justified in that?

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[Behold]

You are lying to us about what I said?
Somehow you are justified in that?

I posted your own quotes.

So, its your own words that prove what im pointing out about you... @St. SteVen

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@St. SteVen posted

St. SteVen said:

""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.""""


And ...Here is WHY you are telling them this incredible Cross Denying lie.

@St. SteVen said.

""""""Everyone is already saved due to the completed work of the atonement.""""""

 

[Behold]

"But what means are we saved?"

"justification by faith".

What is that?

That is...

OUR = "Faith is counted by God as (Christ's) Righteousness.""""

When is this offered?

A.) While you are still breathing.........as otherwise, as Jesus said...>"If you dont believe in me, you shall DIE.. .IN.. YOUR.. SIN's"

What is that ?

That is the Unpardonable sin, you've committed.

And that is to die as a CHRIST Rejector, never FORGIVEN on this EARTH, and that can't be resolved after you die.

 

[St. SteVen]

@St. SteVen posted

""""" its a mistake to assume they HAVE to trust in Christ before they die.."""""

Please provide the post number where I wrote that.
I wrote no such thing.

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[St. SteVen]

@St. SteVen said.

""""""Everyone is already saved due to the completed work of the atonement.""""""

By what means are we saved?

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[Behold]

Please provide the post number where I wrote that.

St. SteVen posted:

""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.""""

You are stating that its a MISTAKE to assume that a person has to trust in Christ, before they die..

St. SteVen posted:

""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.""""


And why do you repeat this lie also?

@St. SteVen said.

""""""Everyone is already saved due to the completed work of the atonement.""""""

 

[Behold]

By what means are we saved?

The Cross of Christ.

John 14:6.

Try reading it.

 

[Wick Stick]

Sorry @St. SteVen , this part isn't necessarily true...

 

[Behold]

Sorry @St. SteVen , this part isn't necessarily true...
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Hopefully.
If not, here it is again.

This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife.

You just posted that its a mistake to Trust in Christ while you are alive.

So, that is leading people to Hell, if they do what you just told them to do.

If the Mods here were cognizant of what you are all about, then you'd have some issues.
But you are on a forum that just allows any Cross denying person to run rampant..

Could the Devil say it any better, then you just said it.....when he would tell people not to worry about being saved while they are on the earth".......So, He's in total agreement with you again @St. SteVen

 

[St. SteVen]

Sorry @St. SteVen , this part isn't necessarily true...
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My post is #139
His post is #160 (though he quotes and then misquotes mine)

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[Behold]

My post is #139
His post is #160 (though he quotes and then misquotes mine)

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St. SteVen said:
""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife."""""

You just posted that its a mistake to Trust in Christ while you are alive.

You said this is what you "think".

So, that is leading people to Hell, if they do what you just told them to do.

No need to "assume" that, as its a fact. @St. SteVen

Let me be more clear, for you..

= YOU said that its a ""MISTAKE, to ASSUME.... that a person has to make a Decision for Christ, BEFORE they DIE">. .which is, as you said......""before they enter the afterlife"

That is stating that they dont have to do it.. they dont have trust in Christ now...they can WAIT and it'll all be fine after they die as a UNBELIEVER, who has "died in their Sin"... as Jesus said.

The reason you posted this Cross rejecting deception, is because you believe THIS.......and let me quote you again... @St. SteVen ..

@St. SteVen posted.

""""""Everyone is already saved due to the completed work of the atonement.""""""

 

[Wick Stick]

My post is #139
His post is #160 (though he quotes and then misquotes mine)

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His post is blocked for me. I don't see it.

 

[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife."""""
Behold said:
You just posted that its a mistake to Trust in Christ while you are alive.

St. SteVen said:
""""This is why I think it is a mistake to assume a person has to make a decision before they enter the afterlife."""""

You just posted that its a mistake to Trust in Christ while you are alive.

Two different things.
A mistake to assume... not a mistake to trust Christ.

I came back with this to clarify:

That is not what I wrote. (see my quote above)
You twisted what I said in order to bear false witness against me. Thanks.

I think it is a VERY good idea for a person to trust Christ while they are still alive.
The benefits of following Christ in this lifetime are plentiful.
Christ came to give us life. Not just life in the afterlife, but life NOW in the present.

The reality however, is that countless billions have gone into the afterlife with no knowledge whatsoever of Christ.
You are seeming happy to consign them to endless and pointless eternal torture. Correct?

Don't make me the bad guy.

Yet you continue.

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[St. SteVen]

St. SteVen said:
By what means are we saved?

The Cross of Christ.

Good.
Was it a complete work, or an incomplete work?

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