Abortion

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Do you believe someone can be Christian and support / defend aborting millions of unborn babies?

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  • No

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Naomanos

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You're in the Medical profession and don't even have any stats??? How many women have been KILLED by abortion? Don't know?

Yes, I am in the medical profession, but I don't know every stat. Do you expect every medical professional to know every medical stat? I have already agreed that are risks with abortion, just as there are risks with all surgeries and procedures.

I see you are still avoiding my question to you. You are trying to make this about me so you can continue to avoid my question? So that isn't avoiding the question, I admitted that I do not know the answer, but agreed that there are risks. You have flat-out just ignored my question to you. Why are you afraid to answer it?
 
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Jack

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Yes, I am in the medical profession, but I don't know every stat. Do you expect every medical professional to know every medical stat? I have already agreed that are risks with abortion, just as there are risks with all surgeries and procedures.

I see you are still avoiding my question to you. You are trying to make this about me so you can continue to avoid my question? So that isn't avoiding the question, I admitted that I do not know the answer, but agreed that there are risks. You have flat-out just ignored my question to you. Why are you afraid to answer it?
You're defending abortion and don't even know how many women have been killed because of abortion??? So you're defending KILLING unborn babies and women?
 
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Naomanos

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You're defending abortion and don't even know how many women have been killed because of abortion???

I am defending medical abortions, please be accurate in what you're saying.

I looked it up for you. Here it is:

"Since 1990, the annual number of deaths among women due to induced abortion has ranged from two to 12, according to the CDC.

The annual number of reported deaths from induced abortions tended to be higher in the 1980s, when it ranged from nine to 16, and from 1972 to 1979, when it ranged from 13 to 54 (1972 was the first year the CDC began collecting this data). One driver of the decline was the drop in deaths from illegal abortions. There were 35 deaths from illegal abortions in 1972, the last full year before Roe v. Wade. The total fell to 19 in 1973 and to single digits or zero every year after that. (The number of deaths from legal abortions has also declined since then, though with some slight variation over time.)"

Found here: What the data says about abortion in the U.S.

I answered your question, even though I had answered it before. Time for you to answer mine.
 

Naomanos

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You're defending abortion and don't even know how many women have been killed because of abortion??? So you're defending KILLING unborn babies and women?

Here is even more from the above link:

How often are there medical complications from abortion?

About 2% of all abortions in the U.S. involve some type of complication for the woman, according to an article in Statpearls, an online health care resource. The article says that “most complications are considered minor such as pain, bleeding, infection and post-anesthesia complications.”

The CDC calculates case-fatality rates for women from legal induced abortions – that is, how many women die from abortion-related complications, for every 100,000 abortions that occur in the U.S. The rate was lowest during the most recent period examined by the agency (2013 to 2019), when there were 0.43 deaths to women per 100,000 legal induced abortions. The case-fatality rate reported by the CDC was highest during the first period examined by the agency (1973 to 1977), when it was 2.1 deaths to women per 100,000 legal induced abortions. During the five-year periods in between, the figure ranged from 0.5 (from 1993 to 1997) to 0.8 (from 1978 to 1982). The CDC says it calculates death rates by five-year and seven-year periods because of year-to-year fluctuation in the numbers and due to the relatively low number of women who die from abortion."
 

Jack

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I am defending medical abortions, please be accurate in what you're saying.

I looked it up for you. Here it is:

"Since 1990, the annual number of deaths among women due to induced abortion has ranged from two to 12, according to the CDC.

The annual number of reported deaths from induced abortions tended to be higher in the 1980s, when it ranged from nine to 16, and from 1972 to 1979, when it ranged from 13 to 54 (1972 was the first year the CDC began collecting this data). One driver of the decline was the drop in deaths from illegal abortions. There were 35 deaths from illegal abortions in 1972, the last full year before Roe v. Wade. The total fell to 19 in 1973 and to single digits or zero every year after that. (The number of deaths from legal abortions has also declined since then, though with some slight variation over time.)"

Found here: What the data says about abortion in the U.S.

I answered your question, even though I had answered it before. Time for you to answer mine.
You're citing Big Pharma that makes BIG $$$ from abortions! Give us some neutral stats.
 

Naomanos

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You're citing Big Pharma that makes BIG $$$! Give us some neutral stats.

I'm citing pew research which gets its stats from the CDC. It is neutral.

I answered your question, now answer mine or are you afraid to answer it? If you are, you can just say that.
 

Jack

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I'm citing pew research which gets its stats from the CDC. It is neutral.
LOL! When has Government been "neutral"?
I answered your question, now answer mine or are you afraid to answer it? If you are, you can just say that.
What's your question again? Honestly I think you are linked to the abortion industry.
 

Naomanos

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Are you a Dem?

I answered you. Do try to keep up.

How pro Planned Parenthood!

Not sure how that's planned parenthood. It is a legitimate question. Either you answer it, or you keep avoiding it, which no offense, doesn't make you look good in this.

So you're anti baby murdering? You can't sit on the fence on Judgment Day.

I said I am against abortions for birth control but support medical abortions. That is not sitting on the fence. Are you against medical abortions?
 

Jack

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I answered you. Do try to keep up.



Not sure how that's planned parenthood. It is a legitimate question. Either you answer it, or you keep avoiding it, which no offense, doesn't make you look good in this.



I said I am against abortions for birth control but support medical abortions. That is not sitting on the fence. Are you against medical abortions?
The medical industry is nearly all about $$$. Isn't that why you are in? It's quite easy to cover up deaths they CAUSE! Who has the $$$ to fight Big Pharma?
 

Naomanos

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Isn't that why you are in?

HAHAHA... the funniest thing I heard all day!

I was an EMT in an ambulance for 20 years. There is a saying. You don't get into EMS for the money. I got paid squat for what I did. I was doing it because I wanted to help people and I am very good as an EMT. Before that, I was a volunteer firefighter. While I was working as an EMT, I also volunteered as an EMT and firefighter in two different states.

Now I work for a plasma center and make decent money, but nothing to write home about.

You are still avoiding my question, why is that? Are you that afraid?
 
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Jack

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HAHAHA... the funniest thing I heard all day!

I was an EMT in an ambulance for 20 years. There is a saying. You don't get into EMS for the money. I got paid squat for what I did. I was doing it because I wanted to help people and I am very good as an EMT. Before that, I was a volunteer firefighter. While I was working as an EMT, I also volunteered as an EMT and firefighter in two different states.

Now I work for a plasma center and make decent money, but nothing to write home about.

You are still avoiding my question, why is that? Are you that afraid?
Emergency service is truly amazing! I applaud you. But you're changing the subject. What is your question that I didn't answer?
 

Naomanos

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But you're changing the subject.

You said "The medical industry is nearly all about $$$. Isn't that why you are in?" I answered you. That is not changing the subject.

What is your question that I didn't answer?

The same one from above.

If your daughter or wife were faced with this decision, would you just say, oh well, you will both die?
 

Jack

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If your daughter or wife were faced with this decision, would you just say, oh well, you will both die?
I would tell them, don't murder your baby. Don't burn in Hell "forever and ever". Your question is LOADED with LEFT propaganda!
 

Naomanos

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I would tell them, don't murder your baby. Don't burn in Hell "forever and ever".

So you would tell them I am sorry, but you have to die and the fetus will die too?
 

Naomanos

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Are you a Planned Parenthood spokesman?

No. I am asking you legitimate questions. Why not actually answer the question?

You do know that is what would happen, right? If the fetus, blastocyst, or zygote is not viable, you are dooming your wife or daughter to die if an abortion is not performed and that is what is killing them.

So, would you still say not to abort, even if it will kill them? This is a valid question.
 
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The Learner

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And what percentage are you referring to? I doubt you even know. What about abortion for birth control??? You're a Dem, right? Planned Parenthod donated hundreds of millions of $$$ to the Dems. It is about $$$!
I posted some articles, it is less than 2% for true medical problems from non-pro-murder sources.
 
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