I believe it's really important foe women to know the truth and to be able to discuss these things in a safe environment. I placed this outside the Women's Only Forum but I want to post it here so we can freely discuss it amongst women.
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1 Corinthians 14:2-6
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
[3]But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
[4]He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
[5]I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
[6]Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
Acts 2:16-18
[16]But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17]And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18]And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
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Here are some of the words used and their original Greek meanings.
"sons"
Greek: υἱός
Transliteration: uihos
Pronunciation: hwee-os'
Definition: Apparently a primary word; a son (sometimes of animals) used very widely of immediate remote or figurative kinship: - child foal son.
KJV Usage: son (85x), Son of Man (with G444) (87x), Son of God (with G2316) (49x), child(ren) (49x), Son (42x), his Son (with G848) (21x), Son of David (with G1138) (15x), my beloved Son (with G27) (with G3350) (7x), thy Son (with G4575) (5x), only begotten Son (with G3339) (3x), his (David's) son (with G846) (3x), firstborn son (with G4316) (2x), misc (14x).
Occurs: 382
In verses: 348
"daughters"
Greek: θυγάτηρ
Transliteration: thugatēr
Pronunciation: thoo-gat'-air
Definition: Apparently a primary word (compare daughter); a female child or (by Hebraism) descendant (or inhabitant): - daughter.
KJV Usage: daughter (29x).
Occurs: 29
In verses: 28
Both of these have various meanings which encompass sons, daughters, and descendants (male and female).
"young men"
Greek: νεανίσκος
Transliteration: neaniskos
Pronunciation: neh-an-is'-kos
Definition: From the same as G3494; a youth (under forty): - young man.
KJV Usage: young man (10x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 9
This word in the original Greek also simply means "a youth under 40." There is no gender specification. It's very likely that social norms of the day dictated how these words were translated.
"old men"
Greek: πρεσβύτερος
Tansliteration: presbuteros
Pronunciation: pres-boo'-ter-os
Definition: Comparative of πρέσβυς presbus (elderly);
older; as noun a senior; specifically an Israelite Sanhedrist (also figuratively member of the celestial council) or Christian presbyter: - elder (-est) old.
KJV Usage: elder (64x), old man (1x), eldest (1x), elder woman (1x).
Occurs: 67
In verses: 67
Here again, this word when we look at the original Greek means "elder" and it can mean "old man" or "elder woman."
There are no gender exceptions where the Spirit of God is concerned.
Other points:
*A woman or young woman has to open her mouth and speak in a congregational setting in order to prophesy.
*This seems to contradict what Paul says in other passages. This obviously calls for what scripture calls "rightly dividing" the Word of God. ALL of scripture comes together to form a complete picture.
*Where does the law of God state that women are to keep silence? (Scripture, please?)
*Since this silence is not in the law of God, what law is Paul referring to?
"servants"
Greek: δοῦλος
Transliteration: doulos
Pronunciation: doo'-los
Definition: From G1210; a slave (literally or figuratively involuntarily or voluntarily; frequently therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or subserviency): - bond (-man) servant.
KJV Usage: servant (120x), bond (6x), bondman (1x).
Occurs: 127
In verses: 119
"handmaids"
Greek: δούλη
Transliteration: doulē
Pronunciation: doo'-lay
Definition: Feminine of G1401; a female slave (involuntarily or voluntarily): - handmaid (-en).
KJV Usage: handmaiden (2x), handmaid (1x).
Occurs: 3
In verses: 3
Then, there's the husband and wife team, Priscilla and Aquila who took a man (Apollos) into the church that was in their home and (both) taught Apollos in the ways of God.
Acts 18:24-26
[24]And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
[25]This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
[26]And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
So here, we have a woman teaching a man. No mention is made otherwise, or that she was only a listener, a sidekick, or a lesser participant. She is mentioned by Paul as a helper/co-laborer and as having taught a man named Apollos. The church was in their home, and Priscilla taught in the church that was in their home, as did her husband, Aquila.
Paul commended and recommended both equally. He actually mentions Priscilla ahead of her husband, Aquila, in this verse.
Romans 16:3
[3]Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
"helpers"
Greek: συνεργός
Transliteration: sunergos
Pronunciation: soon-er-gos'
Definition: From a presumed compound of G4862 and the base of G2041; a co-laborer that is coadjutor: - companion in labour (fellow-) helper (-labourer -worker) labourer together with workfellow.
KJV Usage: fellowlabourer (4x), helper (3x), fellowhelper (2x), fellowworkers (1x), workfellow (1x), labourer together with (1x), companion in labour (1x).
Occurs: 13
In verses: 13
Again, both genders are included equally.
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1 Corinthians 14:2-6
[2]For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
[3]But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.
[4]He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
[5]I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
[6]Now, brethren, if I come unto you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you, except I shall speak to you either by revelation, or by knowledge, or by prophesying, or by doctrine?
Acts 2:16-18
[16]But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17]And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18]And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
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Here are some of the words used and their original Greek meanings.
"sons"
Greek: υἱός
Transliteration: uihos
Pronunciation: hwee-os'
Definition: Apparently a primary word; a son (sometimes of animals) used very widely of immediate remote or figurative kinship: - child foal son.
KJV Usage: son (85x), Son of Man (with G444) (87x), Son of God (with G2316) (49x), child(ren) (49x), Son (42x), his Son (with G848) (21x), Son of David (with G1138) (15x), my beloved Son (with G27) (with G3350) (7x), thy Son (with G4575) (5x), only begotten Son (with G3339) (3x), his (David's) son (with G846) (3x), firstborn son (with G4316) (2x), misc (14x).
Occurs: 382
In verses: 348
"daughters"
Greek: θυγάτηρ
Transliteration: thugatēr
Pronunciation: thoo-gat'-air
Definition: Apparently a primary word (compare daughter); a female child or (by Hebraism) descendant (or inhabitant): - daughter.
KJV Usage: daughter (29x).
Occurs: 29
In verses: 28
Both of these have various meanings which encompass sons, daughters, and descendants (male and female).
"young men"
Greek: νεανίσκος
Transliteration: neaniskos
Pronunciation: neh-an-is'-kos
Definition: From the same as G3494; a youth (under forty): - young man.
KJV Usage: young man (10x).
Occurs: 10
In verses: 9
This word in the original Greek also simply means "a youth under 40." There is no gender specification. It's very likely that social norms of the day dictated how these words were translated.
"old men"
Greek: πρεσβύτερος
Tansliteration: presbuteros
Pronunciation: pres-boo'-ter-os
Definition: Comparative of πρέσβυς presbus (elderly);
older; as noun a senior; specifically an Israelite Sanhedrist (also figuratively member of the celestial council) or Christian presbyter: - elder (-est) old.
KJV Usage: elder (64x), old man (1x), eldest (1x), elder woman (1x).
Occurs: 67
In verses: 67
Here again, this word when we look at the original Greek means "elder" and it can mean "old man" or "elder woman."
There are no gender exceptions where the Spirit of God is concerned.
Other points:
*A woman or young woman has to open her mouth and speak in a congregational setting in order to prophesy.
*This seems to contradict what Paul says in other passages. This obviously calls for what scripture calls "rightly dividing" the Word of God. ALL of scripture comes together to form a complete picture.
*Where does the law of God state that women are to keep silence? (Scripture, please?)
*Since this silence is not in the law of God, what law is Paul referring to?
"servants"
Greek: δοῦλος
Transliteration: doulos
Pronunciation: doo'-los
Definition: From G1210; a slave (literally or figuratively involuntarily or voluntarily; frequently therefore in a qualified sense of subjection or subserviency): - bond (-man) servant.
KJV Usage: servant (120x), bond (6x), bondman (1x).
Occurs: 127
In verses: 119
"handmaids"
Greek: δούλη
Transliteration: doulē
Pronunciation: doo'-lay
Definition: Feminine of G1401; a female slave (involuntarily or voluntarily): - handmaid (-en).
KJV Usage: handmaiden (2x), handmaid (1x).
Occurs: 3
In verses: 3
Then, there's the husband and wife team, Priscilla and Aquila who took a man (Apollos) into the church that was in their home and (both) taught Apollos in the ways of God.
Acts 18:24-26
[24]And a certain Jew named Apollos, born at Alexandria, an eloquent man, and mighty in the scriptures, came to Ephesus.
[25]This man was instructed in the way of the Lord; and being fervent in the spirit, he spake and taught diligently the things of the Lord, knowing only the baptism of John.
[26]And he began to speak boldly in the synagogue: whom when Aquila and Priscilla had heard, they took him unto them, and expounded unto him the way of God more perfectly.
So here, we have a woman teaching a man. No mention is made otherwise, or that she was only a listener, a sidekick, or a lesser participant. She is mentioned by Paul as a helper/co-laborer and as having taught a man named Apollos. The church was in their home, and Priscilla taught in the church that was in their home, as did her husband, Aquila.
Paul commended and recommended both equally. He actually mentions Priscilla ahead of her husband, Aquila, in this verse.
Romans 16:3
[3]Greet Priscilla and Aquila my helpers in Christ Jesus:
"helpers"
Greek: συνεργός
Transliteration: sunergos
Pronunciation: soon-er-gos'
Definition: From a presumed compound of G4862 and the base of G2041; a co-laborer that is coadjutor: - companion in labour (fellow-) helper (-labourer -worker) labourer together with workfellow.
KJV Usage: fellowlabourer (4x), helper (3x), fellowhelper (2x), fellowworkers (1x), workfellow (1x), labourer together with (1x), companion in labour (1x).
Occurs: 13
In verses: 13
Again, both genders are included equally.
