9 teachings from Jesus

[Jack]

All the facts i present on matters are easy to find--You write a, an, and commas in the Greek language in your search engine and it will show you the facts. Be wise Jack--Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things.

WatchTower doctrine is not facts. You NEVER prove any of your comments. You have openly declared our Bible to be Satanic, just like Satan would do! And I don't think you know anything about Greek or Hebrew! Why won't you tell us how long you've been 'taught' by the WatchTower? Why do JW's avoid this subject like plague? But you have indeed taught us that WatchTower believes our Bible is Satanic!

 

[Keiw]

WatchTower doctrine is not facts. You NEVER prove any of your comments. You have openly declared our Bible to be Satanic, just like Satan would do! And I don't think you know anything about Greek or Hebrew! Why won't you tell us how long you've been 'taught' by the WatchTower? Why do JW's avoid this subject like plague? But you have indeed taught us that WatchTower believes our Bible is Satanic!

Every trinity scholar on earth knows 100% Gods name was removed and replaced with GOD or LORD nearly 6800 spots=ot--those spots are quoted in the NT over 200 spots. Why do you think God put his name in all those spots? Whose will was it to remove Gods name? Why do those who claim to love and serve God keep his name out where he willed it to be? Then turn around and condemn the ones who put it back. Think about these things Jack. In the OT it was called the tetragramoton=YHWH.

 

[Jack]

Every trinity scholar on earth knows 100% Gods name was removed and replaced with GOD or LORD nearly 6800 spots=ot--those spots are quoted in the NT over 200 spots. Why do you think God put his name in all those spots? Whose will was it to remove Gods name? Why do those who claim to love and serve God keep his name out where he willed it to be? Then turn around and condemn the ones who put it back. Think about these things Jack. In the OT it was called the tetragramoton=YHWH.

How do you know that? Why do you make such outrageous comments?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

No, reality-Every sentence begins with a capitol letter. Just because some languages didn't use them in writing, they still belong--There is no a or an in Greek writing either, nor commas but they belong do they not? And we are not reading or speaking Greek.

Yes and to insert capitols and punctuation is pretty much an arbitrary thing based on the scholars knowledge of the original language!
The Watchtower as proven in court testimony by ex-Pres Franz has no Greek nor Hebrew scholars on their staffs.

But any real student of Scripture should at least have a concordance, lexicon and grammar guide to better understansd the ENglish as translated from teh Greek and Hebrew. It makes the bible more understandable.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Honor him by learning and applying everything he taught. Brings honor to his Father as well. (John 5:41--Jesus does not accept glory from men. So no Jesus does not get worship, Only God does.
Again you need to listen to Jesus-John 4:22-24

I accept 100% what this verse says. this was never in question.

But now I give you something to ponder. Jesus by name is never mentioned in the Old Testament. We should both agree on that. The name Yahweh however is used over 7,000 times for the name of God. We should both agree on that as well.

Now listen to what Jesus says as to the Old Testament:

John 5:36-41

King James Version

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36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.

The reason Jesus receives not honor from men is because He receives Honor for the Father.! But we honor him the same way we honor the Father if we obey Him!

Vse 38 Jesus says the religious crowd did not have Gods Word abiding in them.

Vse 39: The Old Testament testifies of Jesus.

Jesus Himself we have to come to Him to have eternal life!

John 6:43-45

King James Version

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43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

I belong to jesus. I also belong to Yahweh who is also named Jesus as well as His Father!

After all in the Old TEstament Jesus is called THE FATHER of eternity!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Every one knows those simple facts about the Greek written language. Everyone who has the right to speak on the subject that is. Those who do not know those facts shouldn't be speaking on matters they don't know about.

And your education in Greek is?

 

[Keiw]

How do you know that? Why do you make such outrageous comments?

Google tetragramoton--its very simple.

 

[Keiw]

Yes and to insert capitols and punctuation is pretty much an arbitrary thing based on the scholars knowledge of the original language!
The Watchtower as proven in court testimony by ex-Pres Franz has no Greek nor Hebrew scholars on their staffs.

But any real student of Scripture should at least have a concordance, lexicon and grammar guide to better understansd the ENglish as translated from teh Greek and Hebrew. It makes the bible more understandable.

Ones lead by holy spirt do not need to know languages- God knows them.

Truly i tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.=Error comma placement in every trinity translation on earth
Truly i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.
Proof= Jesus was in Hades(grave) for 3 days, he could not be in Paradise the first day as the comma error shows.

 

[Keiw]

I accept 100% what this verse says. this was never in question.

But now I give you something to ponder. Jesus by name is never mentioned in the Old Testament. We should both agree on that. The name Yahweh however is used over 7,000 times for the name of God. We should both agree on that as well.

Now listen to what Jesus says as to the Old Testament:

John 5:36-41​

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King James Version​

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36 But I have greater witness than that of John: for the works which the Father hath given me to finish, the same works that I do, bear witness of me, that the Father hath sent me.
37 And the Father himself, which hath sent me, hath borne witness of me. Ye have neither heard his voice at any time, nor seen his shape.
38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
41 I receive not honour from men.

The reason Jesus receives not honor from men is because He receives Honor for the Father.! But we honor him the same way we honor the Father if we obey Him!

Vse 38 Jesus says the religious crowd did not have Gods Word abiding in them.

Vse 39: The Old Testament testifies of Jesus.

Jesus Himself we have to come to Him to have eternal life!

John 6:43-45​

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King James Version​

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43 Jesus therefore answered and said unto them, Murmur not among yourselves.
44 No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day.
45 It is written in the prophets, And they shall be all taught of God. Every man therefore that hath heard, and hath learned of the Father, cometh unto me.

I belong to jesus. I also belong to Yahweh who is also named Jesus as well as His Father!

After all in the Old TEstament Jesus is called THE FATHER of eternity!

John 17:3-This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ
2 major truths from Jesus-1) The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--2) THE ONLY TRUE GOD sent another named Jesus as a mortal, he did not come down here.

Michael is the one who was sent. God sent his best.

 

[Keiw]

And your education in Greek is?

Do you live in 2023? One can google any subject and find truths.

 

[Jack]

Google tetragramoton--its very simple.

It is simple indeed. You should have studied the Bible before you went to Kingdom Hall.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Ones lead by holy spirt do not need to know languages- God knows them.

Truly i tell you, today you will be with me in Paradise.=Error comma placement in every trinity translation on earth
Truly i tell you today, you will be with me in Paradise.
Proof= Jesus was in Hades(grave) for 3 days, he could not be in Paradise the first day as the comma error shows.

Oh so now your defense is that people do not need to know grammar, they just can be led by the hairs on the back of their heads, and what they think is right? WOW!

And paradise was in hades until Jesus emptied it of the righteous souls when He physically ascended on high! all that is left is the place of torments and Tartarus.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

John 17:3-This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ
2 major truths from Jesus-1) The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--2) THE ONLY TRUE GOD sent another named Jesus as a mortal, he did not come down here.

Michael is the one who was sent. God sent his best.

So to you Jesus is a false god--Okay then. Calling Jesus Michael is ludicrous to the extreme.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

Do you live in 2023? One can google any subject and find truths.

So instead of listing any training in Greek you just say--"Google it"?

 

[Ronald Nolette]

John 17:3-This means eternal life, their knowing you(Father) THE ONLY TRUE GOD and the one whom you sent forth Jesus Christ
2 major truths from Jesus-1) The Father is THE ONLY TRUE GOD--2) THE ONLY TRUE GOD sent another named Jesus as a mortal, he did not come down here.

Michael is the one who was sent. God sent his best.

"means" is a lie! But then again you believe God didn't so scriptures well enough, so He inspired non scholars of grammar of the original languages to redefine words and place commas where God didn't. yOu are the poster child for being gullible.

But this means eternal life:

John 5:38-40

King James Version

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38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Yahweh=Jesus. For the OT testifies of Yahweh.

I noticed you didn't want to touch that 100% reality.

 

[Jack]

Google tetragramoton--its very simple.

It is simple indeed. You should have read the Bible before you went to Kingdom Hall.

So to you Jesus is a false god--Okay then. Calling Jesus Michael is ludicrous to the extreme.

Amen brother!

Daniel 10
13 But the prince of the kingdom of Persia withstood me twenty-one days; and behold, Michael, one of the chief princes, came to help me,

 

[Keiw]

It is simple indeed. You should have studied the Bible before you went to Kingdom Hall.

I attended different trinity religions in my day. Every one of those teachers taught that religions brand of dogma and little of what Jesus taught-You see Jesus himself commanded that every thing( Matt 28:19-20) he taught was to be taught, and his real teachers do it without fail. And Jesus taught--Man does not live by bread alone but by EVERY utterance from God= OT-NT, it never stops. So 1+1- Every real teacher that Jesus is with teach the flock-EVERY utterance from God without fail. My teachers do it for 0 pay.

 

[Keiw]

Oh so now your defense is that people do not need to know grammar, they just can be led by the hairs on the back of their heads, and what they think is right? WOW!

And paradise was in hades until Jesus emptied it of the righteous souls when He physically ascended on high! all that is left is the place of torments and Tartarus.

Its ludacris to believe Paradise is in Hades. Hades translates-the grave.

 

[Keiw]

So to you Jesus is a false god--Okay then. Calling Jesus Michael is ludicrous to the extreme.

Tell us then-1Thess 4:16--Upon Jesus return he comes with the trumpet of God( announcing his ride)White horse) and with the voice of the archangel--Did Jesus borrow Michaels voice or is it his voice?

 

[Keiw]

So to you Jesus is a false god--Okay then. Calling Jesus Michael is ludicrous to the extreme.

Jesus isn't God at all-He has godlike qualities= small g god, because he is Gods image, Yet it was God who did the creating through Jesus and did all the powerful works while he was on earth Coll 1:15-16,, Acts 2:22,,1 Cor 8:5-6)