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Ronald Nolette

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Yes the words of the watchtower are correct that is the difference.
Hey even a busted clock gets the time right twice a day! Even the Watchtower has biblical truths they did not or could not corrupt. But that is true of all the sects and cults that claim to be the one true representative of God on earth.
 
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Yes the words of the watchtower are correct that is the difference.
Let's see how the WatchTower can twist this.

"These things says the Son of God":

Jeremiah 17:10 (NKJV)
10 I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings. Revelation 2:18-23 (NKJV)
'These things says the Son of God, … 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Jesus is God!!!
 
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I know those facts, yet every translation on earth has capitols and chapters and numbers correct. So what point are you trying to make? Since in English there are capitols in every sentence.
 

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And they did not know like they did not know many other things later revealed! Today they still have blinders on their eyes.

If you wish to become a jew that is your business.

Israel served the one true God that was manifested in different persons. As Isaiah clearly wrote in Chapter 44 there are beings with the divine name Yahweh! No matter how much the Watchtower lies to you- it is 2 people.

Now we are to worship both Father and son as Jesus HImself said along with all the Apostles in the New Testament!
The Greek word proskenaue= 5 different meanings from Greek to English. 1) worship to God-2) Obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 others. The Israelites knew( Psalm 45:7) and taught( Coll 1:3, 1 Pet 1:3) Jesus has a God, thus would not give worship to one who has a God. They were 100% fact looking for Gods appointed king to come, thus in reality gave to Jesus Obeisance not worship. Altered and error filled translations by satan's will gives worship to one who has a God. Causing all to be in darkness.
 

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Hey even a busted clock gets the time right twice a day! Even the Watchtower has biblical truths they did not or could not corrupt. But that is true of all the sects and cults that claim to be the one true representative of God on earth.
Everyone who knows God, knows his view of what a cult is, and in the end its his view that counts= A house divided( trinity religionsssssssss) will not stand. They fail this true mark 100%-1 Cor 1:10-Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division. Yet they cant seem to understand what no division means. They only have had over 1750 years of reading the bible to understand a simple statement a 10 year old can understand. How sad for ant who are listening to them.
 

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The Greek word proskenaue= 5 different meanings from Greek to English. 1) worship to God-2) Obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 others. The Israelites knew( Psalm 45:7) and taught( Coll 1:3, 1 Pet 1:3) Jesus has a God, thus would not give worship to one who has a God. They were 100% fact looking for Gods appointed king to come, thus in reality gave to Jesus Obeisance not worship. Altered and error filled translations by satan's will gives worship to one who has a God. Causing all to be in darkness.
All of our Bibles say you are WRONG!
 

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Let's see how the WatchTower can twist this.

"These things says the Son of God":

Jeremiah 17:10 (NKJV)
10 I, the LORD, search the heart, I test the mind, Even to give every man according to his ways, According to the fruit of his doings. Revelation 2:18-23 (NKJV)
'These things says the Son of God, … 23 I will kill her children with death, and all the churches shall know that I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you according to your works.

Jesus is God!!!
Jeremiah is YHWH(Jehovah)( LORD)
YHWH(Jehovah) gave Jesus all authority in heaven and on earth and to judge. If Jesus were God-No one could give him authority. 1+1=2
 

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Jeremiah is YHWH(Jehovah)( LORD)
YHWH(Jehovah) gave Jesus all authority in heaven and on earth and to judge. If Jesus were God-No one could give him authority. 1+1=2
So you're a Greek and Hebrew expert but you avoid Scripture like plague! I have quoted many Scriptures that you have totally evaded! You have called our Bibles errors and Satanic just like Satan would do.
 
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I know those facts, yet every translation on earth has capitols and chapters and numbers correct. So what point are you trying to make? Since in English there are capitols in every sentence.
And they were added there by men! Just like the Watchtower rewrote the word of God. But in every language and every grammar on earth, if there is only one true god and Jesus is not part of that one true god- then He is a false god. No amount of philosophical twisting the Watchtower does will ever change that.

Just because men added paragraphs and verse numbers and punctuation and capital letters, the Watchtower thought they could rearrange things according to their good pleasure. Just like many other cults have done who claim to be the one true representative of God on earth.
 

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The Greek word proskenaue= 5 different meanings from Greek to English. 1) worship to God-2) Obeisance to a king-3) honor to a judge, plus 2 others. The Israelites knew( Psalm 45:7) and taught( Coll 1:3, 1 Pet 1:3) Jesus has a God, thus would not give worship to one who has a God. They were 100% fact looking for Gods appointed king to come, thus in reality gave to Jesus Obeisance not worship. Altered and error filled translations by satan's will gives worship to one who has a God. Causing all to be in darkness.
Yes God the Father is above God the son. that is not in question. Yes Jesus freely called His Father His god. that is not in question here.

But:

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

That means proskeneo to the son is to be the same proskeneo as to the Father. This verse defines how we honor the son and value Him- in the exact same way we honor or value the Father! that is God's Word not mans
 

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Everyone who knows God, knows his view of what a cult is, and in the end its his view that counts= A house divided( trinity religionsssssssss) will not stand. They fail this true mark 100%-1 Cor 1:10-Unity of thought( all of Gods 1 truth) no division. Yet they cant seem to understand what no division means. They only have had over 1750 years of reading the bible to understand a simple statement a 10 year old can understand. How sad for ant who are listening to them.
Once again you are confusing Christianity with christian religions! Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with the risen ascended glorified Savior and my Father in heaven.

Christianity is an organism- not an organization! And saved Christians are united on all the biblical truths that are essential. Christians who are methodists, Baptists, Episcopalians etc., though we may differ on forms and styles and externals which the bible says is okay to, we who are true followers of Jesus are united.


We do not enforce it dictatorially like the Watchtower does. In the Watchtower as you know, to voice an opposing view is to be disfellowshipped if one doesn't recant. that is not unity but coercion!
 

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And they were added there by men! Just like the Watchtower rewrote the word of God. But in every language and every grammar on earth, if there is only one true god and Jesus is not part of that one true god- then He is a false god. No amount of philosophical twisting the Watchtower does will ever change that.

Just because men added paragraphs and verse numbers and punctuation and capital letters, the Watchtower thought they could rearrange things according to their good pleasure. Just like many other cults have done who claim to be the one true representative of God on earth.
Thank you. I've been saying that for years. They are indeed calling Jesus a false god.
 
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The Bible SCREAMS 'Jesus is God'. Satan SCREAMS, 'Jesus is not God'!

John 5:21
21 For as the Father raises the dead and gives life to them, even so the Son gives life to whom He will.
 

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And they were added there by men! Just like the Watchtower rewrote the word of God. But in every language and every grammar on earth, if there is only one true god and Jesus is not part of that one true god- then He is a false god. No amount of philosophical twisting the Watchtower does will ever change that.

Just because men added paragraphs and verse numbers and punctuation and capital letters, the Watchtower thought they could rearrange things according to their good pleasure. Just like many other cults have done who claim to be the one true representative of God on earth.
No, reality-Every sentence begins with a capitol letter. Just because some languages didn't use them in writing, they still belong--There is no a or an in Greek writing either, nor commas but they belong do they not? And we are not reading or speaking Greek.
 

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No, reality-Every sentence begins with a capitol letter. Just because some languages didn't use them in writing, they still belong--There is no a or an in Greek writing either, nor commas but they belong do they not? And we are not reading or speaking Greek.
How are you qualified to teach us Greek? I don't think you are.
 

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Yes God the Father is above God the son. that is not in question. Yes Jesus freely called His Father His god. that is not in question here.

But:

John 5:23
That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

That means proskeneo to the son is to be the same proskeneo as to the Father. This verse defines how we honor the son and value Him- in the exact same way we honor or value the Father! that is God's Word not mans
Honor him by learning and applying everything he taught. Brings honor to his Father as well. (John 5:41--Jesus does not accept glory from men. So no Jesus does not get worship, Only God does.
Again you need to listen to Jesus-John 4:22-24
 

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Honor him by learning and applying everything he taught. Brings honor to his Father as well. (John 5:41--Jesus does not accept glory from men. So no Jesus does not get worship, Only God does.
Again you need to listen to Jesus-John 4:22-24
Why don't you quote the Scriptures you cite?
 

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How are you qualified to teach us Greek? I don't think you are.
Every one knows those simple facts about the Greek written language. Everyone who has the right to speak on the subject that is. Those who do not know those facts shouldn't be speaking on matters they don't know about.
 

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Every one knows those simple facts about the Greek written language.
What? Prove it! You can't. You can't even prove that you know the Greek.
Everyone who has the right to speak on the subject that is. Those who do not know those facts shouldn't be speaking on matters they don't know about.
You have trouble with English. Why are you teaching Greek?

John 10:17-18 (NKJV)
17 Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
 

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What? Prove it! You can't. You can't even prove that you know the Greek.

You have trouble with English. Why are you teaching Greek?

John 10:17-18 (NKJV)
17 Therefore My Father loves Me, because I lay down My life that I may take it again.
18 No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of Myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again.
All the facts i present on matters are easy to find--You write a, an, and commas in the Greek language in your search engine and it will show you the facts. Be wise Jack--Be like the Bereans and make sure of all things.
 
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