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Ronald Nolette

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God created all things-He created 99.9% of them THROUGH Jesus( Coll 1:15-16)He created Jesus direct=Firstborn of all creation)--God did all the powerful works THROUGH Jesus( Acts 2:22,, 1Cor 8:5-6)

Wrong again and I already explained that to you! firstborn is the heir of all things. You make God a liar if yo9u believe that. 100% real life fact!

John 1

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1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

NOTICE WHAT GOD INSPIRED TO BE WRITTEN??? ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY JESUS-NOT ALL OTHER THINGS! YOU NEED TO TAKE THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD AND UNDERSTAND THAT FIRSTBORN WAS A COMMON TERM FOR THE HEIR IN THOSE DAYS! IF GOD WANTED US TO KNOW HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ALL OTHER THINGS- HE DIDN'T BUT THE WATCHTOWER DID! WHO WILL YOU BELIEVE? GOD OR MEN.
 
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You keep living by one line and you will see your error by not believing all the other hundreds of facts that show your reasoning is faulty.
Jesus with 0 doubt teaches-The one who sent him( John 17:3)=Father= THE ONLY TRUE GOD--The question is why won't you believe Jesus? Because you are mislead by faulty reasonings.
That is you living by one line- and taking it out of its context --Jesus is the firstborn of creation.

and if you want to stick to this one verse, seeing as Jesus is called God and Yahweh in many places- then He must be a false god because according to the Watchtower only the Father is true- that makes all other being called god-FALSE!
 

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That is you living by one line- and taking it out of its context --Jesus is the firstborn of creation.

and if you want to stick to this one verse, seeing as Jesus is called God and Yahweh in many places- then He must be a false god because according to the Watchtower only the Father is true- that makes all other being called god-FALSE!
Excellent point! If Jesus is "a god" what kind of god? They don't even know.
 

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Hard to get light into your darkness. You will find out it is YHWH(Jehovah) one must call on. He as well inspired Jesus' real teachers to teach everyone Jesus has a God his Father-2Cor 1:3, Coll 1:3, Eph 1:3--1Peter 1:3--You wont believe their truth there why?
I do believe the truth. Not because the Watchtower misuses it but because the Word of God without commentary declares it!

But you fail because you have allowed the Watchtower to dumb you down so badly, you no longer even recognize context and grammar. That is what is truly sad!

It is the Watchtower who lives in darkness! You will find out and if you did some research in Watchtower archives, you would find out that they have reversed their declarations on doctrine numerous times. They call it the light getting brighter, but if what you had before was false then the light in them was darkness!
 

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Excellent point! If Jesus is "a god" what kind of god? They don't even know.
The Watchtower is one of the best brainwashing cults going. They are the most craftiest in their use of human reasoning and cunningly twisted words to support their false doctrine.

they used ot allow blood transfusions before they didn't. Now they allow whole blood fractions.

they used to promote Christmas a sa time to give WT materials as gifts.

Of course all the end of the world and Armageddon false prophecies.

Judge Rutherford wrote in a book entitled "Prophecy (yellow cover) that teh Scriptural proof was conclusive that Jesus returned invisibly in 1874! Sixteen years after He supposedly did in 1914.

Revamping the witnesses who saw the events of 1914.

And of course the denial of the deity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit!

But the biggest that keeps them from knowing the truth is their indoctrination into believing Jesus did not rise physically from the dead. MY prayer is that after teh church is raptured- the scales will fall off their eyes and they then will truly become the great crowd of witnesses during the 7 year trib.
 

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Isaiah 48
16 "Come near to Me, hear this: I have not spoken in secret from the beginning; From the time that it was, I was there. And now the Lord GOD and His Spirit Have sent Me."17 Thus says the LORD, your Redeemer, The Holy One of Israel: "I am the LORD your God,

Jesus is God!
 

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Yes, and yet another thread that is going to "locked Up" arguing over 'banned' topics -

oh, WHEN we we ever learn :(
 

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Oh, you've never read our Bible?

Luke 16
19 "There was a certain rich man who was clothed in purple and fine linen and fared sumptuously every day. 20 But there was a certain beggar named Lazarus, full of sores, who was laid at his gate, 21 desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table. Moreover the dogs came and licked his sores. 22 So it was that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels to Abraham's bosom. The rich man also died and was buried. 23 And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. 24 Then he cried and said, 'Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.' 25 But Abraham said, 'Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things; but now he is comforted and you are tormented.

Hell will be filled with people who don't believe in Hell.

Revelation 20
15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

I believe you're violating the rules here.
The rich man and Lazarus= symbolic--No one could find joy if they could look down and watch their loved ones suffering, and if it were reality then Rev 21: 3-4 would be a lie. Because those looking down would experience emotional pain, and God promises it will not exist in his kingdom. But you wont believe bible facts over your own false reasonings-Why? Because you don't know Gods truth found in those pages. Its nice you want to, but one needs to apply the whole bible on matters.
Lake of fire= the 2nd death= destruction.
 

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Wrong again and I already explained that to you! firstborn is the heir of all things. You make God a liar if yo9u believe that. 100% real life fact!

John 1​

King James Version​

1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

NOTICE WHAT GOD INSPIRED TO BE WRITTEN??? ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY JESUS-NOT ALL OTHER THINGS! YOU NEED TO TAKE THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD AND UNDERSTAND THAT FIRSTBORN WAS A COMMON TERM FOR THE HEIR IN THOSE DAYS! IF GOD WANTED US TO KNOW HE WOULD HAVE WRITTEN ALL OTHER THINGS- HE DIDN'T BUT THE WATCHTOWER DID! WHO WILL YOU BELIEVE? GOD OR MEN.
I am glad you try to know Gods word, but fall short in doing so.
Every son has a beginning. God does not have a beginning.
The true God is called-Ho Theos at John 1:1--The word is called plain Theos. It doesn't take much to know the reason was to show a clear difference. One is God, one is a god.= reality. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--when the true God is in the same paragraph with another being called Theos, the true God got-Ho Theos. There would be no difference if both were being called God=1+1=2-- Do you have the power to reason correctly?
 

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The rich man and Lazarus= symbolic--
Says Kingdom Hall! Not Jesus. "Symbolic", one of Kingdom Hall's favs when they don't like what God said!
No one could find joy if they could look down and watch their loved ones suffering, and if it were reality then Rev 21: 3-4 would be a lie. Because those looking down would experience emotional pain, and God promises it will not exist in his kingdom. But you wont believe bible facts over your own false reasonings-Why? Because you don't know Gods truth found in those pages. Its nice you want to, but one needs to apply the whole bible on matters.
Lake of fire= the 2nd death= destruction.
As usual, you totally avoid the Scripture!
 

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That is you living by one line- and taking it out of its context --Jesus is the firstborn of creation.

and if you want to stick to this one verse, seeing as Jesus is called God and Yahweh in many places- then He must be a false god because according to the Watchtower only the Father is true- that makes all other being called god-FALSE!
No one called god small g is being called God. Nor are they God.
 

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I do believe the truth. Not because the Watchtower misuses it but because the Word of God without commentary declares it!

But you fail because you have allowed the Watchtower to dumb you down so badly, you no longer even recognize context and grammar. That is what is truly sad!

It is the Watchtower who lives in darkness! You will find out and if you did some research in Watchtower archives, you would find out that they have reversed their declarations on doctrine numerous times. They call it the light getting brighter, but if what you had before was false then the light in them was darkness!
Its plain simple english= The Father is Jesus' God.
 

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Says Kingdom Hall! Not Jesus. "Symbolic", one of Kingdom Hall's favs when they don't like what God said!

As usual, you totally avoid the Scripture!
Wow do you need help. You have 0 power of reasoning. Must be because this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 is leading your mind.
I showed you clearly that that teaching being literal = impossible according to promises.
 

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Wow do you need help. You have 0 power of reasoning.
Oh my, a personal insult from Kingdom Hall.
Must be because this heart-Jeremiah 17:9 is leading your mind.
I showed you clearly that that teaching being literal = impossible according to promises.
I really can't think of even one verse in the Bible that JW's don't twist, just like Satan! Oh, that's right, you said our Bibles are errors and Satanic.
 
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I am glad you try to know Gods word, but fall short in doing so.
Every son has a beginning. God does not have a beginning.
The true God is called-Ho Theos at John 1:1--The word is called plain Theos. It doesn't take much to know the reason was to show a clear difference. One is God, one is a god.= reality. The only word in Greek for God or god is Theos--when the true God is in the same paragraph with another being called Theos, the true God got-Ho Theos. There would be no difference if both were being called God=1+1=2-- Do you have the power to reason correctly?
Every natural normal son has a beginning. Jesus had a beginning for HIs humanity, but not HIs divinity.

YOur second paragraph fails because you lack basic grammar skills.

1. god is both a person and a description of essence or nature.
2. Ho theos is to distinguish Logos from HIs Father.
3. If there is only one true god-
4. And your math is wrong it is not 1+1+1=3 it is 1X1X1+ 1 or if you wish 1/1/1=1 I have the ower to see what Scripture says without comment from a man made organization- sorry you don't.

And if you wish to make a big deal about the definite article "ho", then you have a problem once again!

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

When you go back to the Greek you will see that Thomas actually said "The Lord of me and THE God of me! So Thomas declared Jesus tro be THE GOD of himself!

And once again, Thomas wasn't making any kind of exclamation! He was a disciple and knew full well trhat if He said that of Jesus and it wasn't true- it would be blasphemy!
 
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Its plain simple english= The Father is Jesus' God.
And I never said any different. Why you keep thinking I said something different is you are brainwashed to think I say that from your Watchtower masters.

The Father is above the son and more exalted than the Son. the Son is more exalted than the Spirit. So while they havean order of authority they all share the same essence -all equally divine!

I wish you would focus on what I write and the drilling the Watchtower tells you! they are vastly different.
 

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Every natural normal son has a beginning. Jesus had a beginning for HIs humanity, but not HIs divinity.

YOur second paragraph fails because you lack basic grammar skills.

1. god is both a person and a description of essence or nature.
2. Ho theos is to distinguish Logos from HIs Father.
3. If there is only one true god-
4. And your math is wrong it is not 1+1+1=3 it is 1X1X1+ 1 or if you wish 1/1/1=1 I have the ower to see what Scripture says without comment from a man made organization- sorry you don't.

And if you wish to make a big deal about the definite article "ho", then you have a problem once again!

John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God.

When you go back to the Greek you will see that Thomas actually said "The Lord of me and THE God of me! So Thomas declared Jesus tro be THE GOD of himself!

And once again, Thomas wasn't making any kind of exclamation! He was a disciple and knew full well trhat if He said that of Jesus and it wasn't true- it would be blasphemy!
Israel served and serves a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) from Moses on up until today. God did not change. The council of Constantinople changed him. You cannot get by these facts. Israel served the true God= 0 doubt in all creation. Think about it.
 

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And I never said any different. Why you keep thinking I said something different is you are brainwashed to think I say that from your Watchtower masters.

The Father is above the son and more exalted than the Son. the Son is more exalted than the Spirit. So while they havean order of authority they all share the same essence -all equally divine!

I wish you would focus on what I write and the drilling the Watchtower tells you! they are vastly different.
Yes the words of the watchtower are correct that is the difference.
 

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No one called god small g is being called God. Nor are they God.
Boy your lack of knowledge of the bible and the manuscripts and history of the bible is glaring. the original manuscripts were not written with chapters and numbers. nor were they written with caps and small letters. You should do some checking before you make a statement that has no relevance or historical fact.


Uncial manuscripts are handwritten books that were written in large, separated capital letters123. They were used to write the New Testament books13. Uncial manuscripts did not have word separation or punctuation2. There are approximately 300 uncials known to exist today that contain portions of the New Testament and one uncial that contains the entire NT3. The great uncial codices or four great uncials are the only remaining uncial codices that contain (or originally contained) the entire text of the Bible (Old and New Testament) in Greek4
from Bible.org
 

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Israel served and serves a single being God-YHWH(Jehovah) from Moses on up until today. God did not change. The council of Constantinople changed him. You cannot get by these facts. Israel served the true God= 0 doubt in all creation. Think about it.
And they did not know like they did not know many other things later revealed! Today they still have blinders on their eyes.

If you wish to become a jew that is your business.

Israel served the one true God that was manifested in different persons. As Isaiah clearly wrote in Chapter 44 there are beings with the divine name Yahweh! No matter how much the Watchtower lies to you- it is 2 people.

Now we are to worship both Father and son as Jesus HImself said along with all the Apostles in the New Testament!
 
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