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  1. Jericho

    Aliens & watchers & hybrids, oh my!

    This might be a little out there, even by unorthodox doctrine standards, but it's just something I've been musing over lately. There's a heavy dose of speculation involved, and I don't claim any of it to be emphatically true. It's more of a thought experiment than anything. I hold to the...
  2. Jericho

    I hate myself, and hate being an atheist.

    I am the ultimate example of it's never too late. I didn't do anything with my life until I was around aged 40. It was the perfect storm of anxiety, no direction, and lack of confidence that made me fearful of doing anything. So, I just shut down and gave up for nearly two decades. I had no job...
  3. Jericho

    Lucifer the once beautifully arrayed angel... explain please!

    Isaiah 14:3 begins by talking about the fall of the king of Babylon, but then the narrative shifts to Lucifer in Isaiah 14:12, who is the real power behind the king of Babylon. The fact that he is called a "man" is missleading. The Hebrew word used here for "man" is not "'āḏām" but "'îš". This...
  4. Jericho

    Was polygamy a sin?

    Polygamy was permitted, but I don't believe it was ever God's intent as evidenced by Adam and Eve. It was common during Old Testament times, but by the time of the New Testament, it seems to have lost favor. Several couples are mentioned in the New Testament, and they only had one wife. Jesus...
  5. Jericho

    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    I speculate that there "may" be a pathway for some, not all, who died in ignorance to go to heaven, but I don't know what I don't know. And I wouldn't call it merit, but grace. God isn't fair, but he is just. We can only trust that he deals with everyone justly. Of course, because our choices...
  6. Jericho

    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    Maybe they did. There are three groups of people who have ever lived: Those who have heard the gospel and responded to it. Only their works are judged, but not their salvation. Those who have heard the gospel and rejected it. They are judged and condemned to eternally atone for their own sins...
  7. Jericho

    Is heaven only for Christians? - That's convenient

    "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved. (Rom 10:9) It's pretty cut and dry. Without accepting Jesus, there is no way to get into heaven. It's not about us; it's about Jesus. We are not more deserving...
  8. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Thanks for the support, MA2444. I knew when I posted it that I would probably be walking into a mine field, but that is to be expected. To me, the truth seems obvious. But if we can't agree on certain precepts on which our foundation rests, we're never going to agree on certain issues. The...
  9. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    I'll let you in on a little secret, all rapture doctrines are fairly modern: *The mid-tribulation rapture emerged in 1941 with the publication of the book, "The End: Rethinking the Revelation" by Norman B. Harrison. *Prewrath was conceived in the 1970s by Robert Van Kampen. It became...
  10. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    I'm not sure what this is supposed to prove. Odd that you would dismss 2TH 2:7 and the identity of the "Restrainer" when it certaintly is releveant to that discussion. Regardless, when Jesus established the Church, He said, "The gates of Hades (Hell) shall not prevail against it" (Mat 16:18)...
  11. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Now your just nit picking. If you don't have something of subtance to post then move along to another post.
  12. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Does not the Bible contain symbolism? Revelation is full of it. Regardless, it relies far less on symbolism than you suggest. It merely contrasts and compares the historical Galilean wedding ceremony against scripture, and puts those scriptures into proper context. That's it. Did the early...
  13. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    That's your problem then. You are so closed-minded that you don't even want to consider the possibility you might be wrong. There's really no point in continuing this discussion with you.
  14. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Good luck finding any scripture that explicitly spells out the timing of the rapture. If it did, we wouldn't have so many debates about it. I've laid everything out in a nice outline, complete with plenty of scripture references. If that's not enough, then I don't know what to tell you. How is...
  15. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    If you haven’t noticed, the Bible is filled with symbolism, and it is indeed possible to use symbolism to convey deeper theological truths from which to build doctrines. The first-century people whom Jesus preached to would not have needed to guess what the symbolism meant; they wouldn’t have...
  16. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Did you actually read what I wrote? No where did I claim the virgins are the bride of Christ. I mentioned it because it was the custom of the day and highlights that Jesus will come like a thief in the night.
  17. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Stage 3: Celebration (the wedding feast) (Gen 29:27–28, Gen 29:27–28, John 2:1–11) 1. During the wedding feast, the doors were closed, and anyone who had not been invited would be shut out. a. Jesus highlights this in the Parable of the Wedding Feast (Mat 22:1–14). Those who were invited to...
  18. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Stage 2: Consummation (chuppah) (Gen 24:64–67, Gen 29:21–26, Gen 29:30) 1. Neither the bride nor groom knew the exact day when the wedding would take place. No one knew except the groom’s father. It was left up to him alone to decide the exact day of the wedding. a. Jesus said, “But of that...
  19. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    Stage 1: Contract (ketubah) (Gen 24:33, Gen 24:51–53, Gen 24:57–58, Gen 29:15–20, Gen 29:27) 1. The betrothal phase began with a contract or covenant called a "ketubah." Marriages were often arranged by the parents, though young men could sometimes suggest their preference. When a man was to...
  20. Jericho

    The Galilean wedding is the model for the pre-trib rapture

    The ancient Galilean wedding ceremony is the model for the rapture, specifically the pre-trib rapture. When the Scriptures are compared to the Galilean wedding ceremony, it explains the purpose of the rapture, why the church won’t go through the tribulation, and puts certain biblical passages...