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  1. Butch5

    Does the Church still possess miraculous gifts today?

    Those gifts ceased. They were given to validate the Apostles as genuinely from God.
  2. Butch5

    "Free" Will

    :)
  3. Butch5

    "Free" Will

    Could be!
  4. Butch5

    "Free" Will

    That passages isn't about hell.
  5. Butch5

    "Free" Will

    What does this passage have to do with man having free will?
  6. Butch5

    The wrong gospel

    I've already shown you that Paul said he preached "NOTHING" other than what Moses and the Prophets said would come. That means what he preached came from Moses and the Prophets, not some other Gospel revealed to Him and no one else. Peter too preached what the Prophets said would come. The...
  7. Butch5

    The wrong gospel

    Did you read what Paul said? He said he said nothing other than what Moses and the prophets said should come. However, you understand Eph. 3 it must reconcile with this his words here. These words can't just be ignored. There is nothing in Eph 3 that says the others didn't get the mystery...
  8. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    Abraham spoke with Jesus, as did Moses, The prophet got direct revelation from God and they had the writings of Moses.. The apostles had direct teaching from Jesus and they had the Bible. So, how would you know about God without the Bible
  9. Butch5

    The wrong gospel

    Where do you guys get this stuff? Paul and the 12 preached the same Gospel. Paul didn't get some special Gospel that the others didn't. He said, 22 Having therefore obtained help of God, I continue unto this day, witnessing both to small and great, saying none other things than those which...
  10. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    How would you know God without the Bible?
  11. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    I've had that same experience with moderators on Christian forums. Not on this forum but on others.
  12. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    Sure! Ad Hominem If your spelling wasn't so bad people might listen to your argument. Begging the question Person 1---Fossils prove evolution is true. Person 2---How's that? Person 1---Because they take so long to form.
  13. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    It does cause me to wonder why. It's not like anyone can see you or know who you are outside of the forum.
  14. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    That statement was made to the apostles. It is not a universal statement. Notice Jesus' words " whatsoever I have said unto you."
  15. Butch5

    Logical fallacies hijack discussion

    HI Oz, I agree. I too have seen too many logical fallacies from Christians. They are dangerous in that they can be used to lead Christians into false doctrines. However, They are also dangerous to the lost. When Christians discuss Christian things with the lost anyone who is intelligent is...
  16. Butch5

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    We don't know how to debate this subject? You post Scripture and highlight a portion. Often you don't even comment. Are we supposed to read your mind? I've already said that we are aware of the Scriptures that you post. It's not like you're posting something we've never seen. That it doesn't...
  17. Butch5

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Then why do you keep using them?
  18. Butch5

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    You're still avoiding the issue. As I said in another post by ignoring logic and grammar you set yourself up as the ultimate authority, not the Scriptures. It's your "interpretation" of the Scriptures that is ultimately authoritative, not the Scriptures. In order to make the Scriptures the...
  19. Butch5

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    I agree wholeheartedly! It seems no matter where you go people don't reason correctly. I see, it from all kinds of people. There is a problem with Christians in particular doing it because they claim to speaking truth when in reality they aren't. What is even more disconcerting is a refusal to...
  20. Butch5

    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Why do you ignore the fact that your arguments are fallacious?