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Right, no difference, so yes, not germane to whether one is or is not elect of God. But irrelevant? Well, I guess we can agree on 'irrelevance' of ethnicity... in a certain sense. Grace and peace to you.

No, all, for sure; all God's promises have their 'yes' and 'amen' in Christ Jesus. And that's the very point; you inadvertently make God's promises (and His love, and even He Himself) out to be far smaller than they really are. You don't mean to do that, certainly, but it is what it is...

Well... actually... <smile> ...long, long before that... <smile> "Long before they were born, before they did anything good or bad..." You agree, I'm sure. <smile> Ahhh... well, I think you will agree with this, too... I wouldn't say 'irrelevant,' but certainly not exclusive. <smile>...

He did, but generally speaking, what we find in the Old Testament is a "lesser" manifestation of the "greater." That's certainly not to say that anything in the Old Testament is "not as good" or "doesn't qualify anymore" or is somehow now "replaced." Rather, the real iteration of it is much...

He/She is referring to 1 Thessalonians 4. I'm quite sure. We can talk about why that's such a terrible understanding from what Paul says in that particular passage, but Marks's statement in and of itself is self-refuting. If it's acknowledged to only be found there and not in the Gospels or...

That's an excellent point, Brakelite, but wouldn't you say all sorts of groups of people do that kind of thing with all sorts of different doctrines, things, and, well, what or who they view as authoritative, in all sorts of ways? Yes, I agree, generally speaking with you regarding Catholicism...

The ethnic Jews thought they were the chosen nation from among all the other nations. In a lesser sense they were, but the greater sense is... much, much greater than that. Paul, in talking about Israel ~ God's true Israel ~ said that "not all who are descended from Israel belong to Israel...

We are in the midst of the tribulation period now. Jesus tells us that "(i)n the world (we) will have tribulation. But take heart; (He has) overcome the world" (John 16:33). Now, there will be great tribulation near the end of this time, and it may be happening now... "in those days there will...

Right, true Jews of God, yes. Ugh. <smile> Many of the "current citizens of the Jewish State of Israel" will stand, in the Judgment, alongside all unbelieving Gentiles, having been resurrected to judgment, and as a result of the Judgment will not enter into the New Heaven and New Earth but...

Not "practically none," but none. Yes, the meek shall inherit the earth. Yes, the return of Christ will surely be a rapturous event. Grace and peace to all.

Everyone will come to the Judgment. All will be judged according to what they have done. The difference is that Christians ~ those on Jesus's right in the Judgment ~ will have an Advocate, in Whose merit and righteousness we will stand. Non-Christians, on the other hand ~ those on His left ~...

Okay, cool. I don't care. <smile> I mean, it might be to you, but hey, I'm here to help... Is that all ya got, Davy? <smile> Grace and peace to you.

The, um, good ones do. <smile> I mean there are good Christians out there who believe Jesus to be saying that there are two different resurrections there... and in a certain sense that's true... but they actually think those two resurrections will be separated by some significant amount of...

Well, Davy, I read your post, there. Just... wanted you to know that... <smile> I'll just say that I don't deny any Bible Scripture at all ~ obviously, because I'm quoting every single Scripture you are and acknowledging it all completely ~ but only... well, to an extent, at least... your...

This is... a bit of a rant... <smile> I'm just going to dismiss it, not necessarily as rubbish, mind you, but... well... yes, I'm just gonna kind of let this go... <smile> Like you, Davy, I follow Jesus. Jesus said it was... <smile> It's just not here in it's fullness yet, that's for sure...

Absolutely. Absolutely agree with this. Yes, at the time of Ezekiel's prophecy... and Zechariah's... the millennium was surely yet future. <smile> <eye roll> Yes, I know. And I don't believe in... well, your "man's theory." Yeah, we disagree. But maybe not as much as you think. So do I...

Well, "part of," in the sense that we "are members of the household of God, built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being...

For us, there will be no more pain, no more suffering, no more sin, no more death. I think you agree with that. Ugh. I agree about the second death existing for the unsaved, certainly, but throughout eternity, which will start after He issues the final Judgment and sends the unsaved away...

I never said I wasn't going to read your responses. Never. Continued...

Yeah, no offense, Davy, but I literally could not care less. I mean... just so you know. <smile> Grace and peace to you.