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The is no "the I am" anywhere in the scripture. You're inserting "the" where it isn't there. Read your own post. You brought up the crucifixion as though Jesus' crucifixion made him God. I'm just point out that crucifixion does not make anyone God. In the text. By Apostles, I assume you mean...

Several people in the Bible other than Jesus uttered the phrase, "ego eimi" (the Greek I am). I say it myself all the time and I hear it from others. Crucifixion was a common way to execute people in those days. Didn't make any of them God. The context of John 8 is relevant. There is no church...

Not sure why attending a Catholic school means I don't under stand the trinity doctrine. But I understand there are other "flavors" of the doctrine. Having studied the word for 50 years, I've seen that the phrase "son of God" is used some 50 times whereas the phrase "God the Son" is noticeably...

Thessalonians was written to and about the church of the Body, i.e. Christians. They have nothing to do with the events in Revelation. They will have been caught up into the clouds to be with Jesus (1 Thes 4:7). Note that Jesus does not come to the earth at this time. He will come after the 7...

Check out the first 5 verses of Philippians 2 for the context. Take special notice that all Christians are told to have the same mind as Jesus. So if he thought he was God, we should also? I don't think so. Again, context explains verses 6-8.

Rev 20:4, And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their...

Well, having taken 12 years of religion classes 5 days a week in a Catholic school, I do understand what the trinity doctrine teaches. But I can't help but see the "son of God" many times in the scriptures whereas there is nothing in them about a "God the Son." At some point I just decided to...

That's exactly my point. Jesus is not the Father. He's the son. Now couple that with 1 Cor 8:6 saying only the Father is God which would mean the son is not God. But I respect your belief.

Thanks for the kind words. I'll just say that I went to a Catholic school for 12 years where we had religion class 5 days a week. I'm very familiar with the trinity. I've just come to a point where I accept Jesus as the son of God and let it go at that. There is a world of difference between...

Oops, meant to say, " don't think even the staunchest Trinitarian would say Jesus is the Father." I'll correct the post. Thanks for the heads up!

All those verses can easily be understood in a non-trinitarian way, but I'm sure you've heard them all and have come to a decision on the matter. Let's wait until Jesus returns and we no longer see through a dark glass to continue the discussion. tsml

Yes, but it identifies who the one God is, namely, the Father. I don't think even the staunchest Trinitarian would say Jesus is the Father. Well, as you correctly pointed out, a comma could make the difference. I suspect you know that there was no punctuation whatsoever in the original Greek...

I'm not sure which Bible version you are quoting. Maybe the English Standard version? That is the only version I found that said Jesus upheld the "universe." About a dozen other versions I looked at, including the original Greek, say he upholds all "things." The question becomes what are those...

Very good point. There is an interesting verse in one of Peter's epistles: 2 Pet 1:4, Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust. Christians are also...

John 17:21, That they all may be one; as thou, Father, [art] in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. John 17:22, And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: Jesus certainly...

Well if we made 1 Cor 8:6 relevant, then there is a big contradiction between it and Titus 2:13. I'm not sure how 1 Cor 8:6 could be saying anything other than the only God is the Father. Is Jesus the Father? On the other hand, There is much debate on how the Greek of Titus 2:13 should be...

Exodus and Revelation are completely different contexts. But if you are right, then we all get tossed into the lake of fire, given that we've all sinned.

I think you are adding a lot to that verse. It doesn't say "unsaved" dead, nor does it say "spiritually" dead. Also, if the book of life has nothing to do with this resurrection, why is it mentioned? There must be some reason. The way I see it written is that dead people were resurrected from...

Do you have any comments on the actual content of my post? For example, given that 1 Cor 8:6 says only the Father is God, would you say that Jesus is the Father? Or does it not actually say that the only God is the Father? It'd be nice to have a dialogue with you that isn't just tacit accusations.

As a godhead, God is reduced to a "thing" instead of a loving person, our Father. Doesn't seem that good to me. As long as we don't care about the meaning of simple words and logic, we can make the Bible say whatever we want. 1 Cor 8:6, yet to us there is one God, the Father, from whom are...