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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    That is false. How could it be possible for God to demand that his servants know him and yet be a mystery to prevent them from doing so? John 17:3 This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ. If God is a mystery as...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    The apostle John, the one who lived longer, until the end of the 1st century, never believed in a "triune-godhead". In the year 96 he wrote about Jesus: Rev. 1:6 (...) he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen.
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You can visit this website and consult John 1:18 in some manuscripts, and you'll learn what you don't know about that verse. https://greekcntr.org/collation/index.htm?v=43001018
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Read the whole chapter: John 1:14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as belongs to an only-begotten son from a father; and he was full of divine favor and truth. (...) 18 No man has seen God at any time; the only-begotten god who is at...
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    He did not say "I am more pre-eminent than Abraham," but rather "Before Abraham was, I was." The passage needs to be twisted to change the meaning like that. The dialogue is exactly about how long Jesus has been alive. Before Abraham? YES. That is the point that Jesus is making to them, to...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    That's ridiculous, sorry. Have you ever seen a Jew who believed that Genesis speaks of a multiple God? Trinitarians have gone to too much trouble in their eagerness to find something in the bible to support that erroneous doctrine they inherited from apostate Christendom after the 2nd century...
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    That is not the correct reading of the story. You are denying exactly what Jesus is clearly saying. It is clearly about pre-existence. That is not the correct understanding of the clear statements of Jesus about his pre-existence. There is another thread I opened about it. You're more than...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    There is not any triune-Godhead among the original Christian teachings. The first Christians were Jews. We are talking about the apostles, including Matthew, Peter and John, the family of Jesus, including his half-brothers James and Jude, and also about Paul, who had been a fervent Pharisee. A...
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    Jesus' God

    Back in topic: ANSWER HERE: John 2:13 Now the Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. 14 He found in the temple those selling cattle and sheep and doves, and the money brokers in their seats. 15 So after making a whip of ropes, he drove all those with the sheep and...
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    You seem to be angry too. Since I don't like to talk to angry people, I'll temporarily send you to make him company in my ignore list. Bye. :quitit
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    I don't like personal conflict when I talk about the Scriptures, so to avoid it, I'll put you on my ignore list. Welcome to the existential void. :Lockedthread Bye. :waves:
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    You seem to be very angry because managers of this website allow posters to discuss this topic. Just relax. If you are so sure of that doctrine, you may have a lot of chances to prove it with the Scriptures. Don't take it personal, because if you are wrong, it will benefit you, if others are...
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    Jesus' God

    I think he did when he said: John 10:36 do you say to me (...) ‘You blaspheme,’ because I said, ‘I am God’s Son’?” He is saying something like: I NEVER SAID I WAS GOD, BUT I AM GOD'S SON. But you do prefer to focus on what those Jews said instead of what Jesus answered them.
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    Nah, that is an interpretation, not a translation. This is the dialog in a correct translation: John 8:56 "Abraham YOUR father rejoiced greatly in the prospect of seeing my day, and he saw it and rejoiced.” 57 Therefore the Jews said to him: “You are not yet fifty years old, and still you have...
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    Jesus' God

    And what did Jesus tell them? John 10:34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into the...
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    Did you check Jesus side of the story? John 10:34 Jesus answered them: “Is it not written in your Law, ‘I said: “You are gods”’? 35 If he called ‘gods’ those against whom the word of God came—and yet the scripture cannot be nullified— 36 do you say to me whom the Father sanctified and sent into...
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    A glaring proof of the divinity of Jesus is the many examples of God's people worshipping Christ in the New Testament, which Christ never corrected

    The same word is used here: Rev. 3:9 Look! I will make those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews yet are not, but are lying—look! I will make them come and bow before your feet and make them know that I have loved you. Do you think Jesus will make "fake Jews" to worship true...
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    Jesus' God

    Are you talking about what those liar Jews, who used false witnesses in a religious trial, said?
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Uh, yes. It means that, but not in the sense you thought before. Otherwise: would be Christians "totally God" for being filled with the fullness of Jesus, who is filled with the fullness of God? Logical transference, my friend, is a natural process of thinking rationally.