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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The story of Jesus does not end with what he left behind to come to earth, but with what he accomplished when he remained faithful to God. Eph. 1:16 (...) I continue mentioning you in my prayers, 17 that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    When Jesus began his career as a preacher of the Kingdom of God, he was not sent to choose followers who were not Jews. One of the reasons was that the promises of the kingdom were given to them first. After the foundations of Christianity were already laid by Jesus, after the Master died...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    What Jesus said about his Father? John 14:28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am. But trinitarians say just the opposite, that they are equal. What...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    God the Son is a total distortion of the biblical expression the Son of God. It is a mockery of the one behind the doctrine that says that Jesus wants to be treated as an equal to his God...
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    Did they really "WORSHIPPED" Jesus?

    This is another attack of your part. I will mark all of them to you, so you see the facts and what is a distortion of the facts. The book of Revelation shows how heavenly creatures paid homage to Jesus in heavens, but most importantly is the WHY they do that: Rev. 5:9 And they sing a new song...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    People talk as if "God" is a race of beings, a corporation, or a family name that is inherited. Others imagine that it is an invisible substance shared by several people. Is that really what the word "God" means in the Scriptures?
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    Did they really "WORSHIPPED" Jesus?

    Early Christians read and quoted continually from the Greek version of the OT that existed in their time. The same word is used a lot in the LXX, and here I will cite some of those examples: So, what the facts show? Did the Christian writers of the NT believe that the Greek word προσκυνέω...
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    That is what you are saying about my posts. But the facts show something different. Look what you just said after that: And this you said before: So, who is attacking whom? I'm just glossing over your attacks and focusing on the important points of the topic. I can continue showing what the...
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    You have realized that some beliefs you have held are not biblical. It is wise of you to rectify your doctrines when you realize that you were wrong. Perhaps you should also study the subject of Jesus Christ further. Why does the Bible call him "the firstborn of all creation" in Col. 1:15, and...
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    I understand you're seeking a rationale for believing that Jesus had no beginning. This belief is part of the teachings you've received, rooted in religions that adopted the doctrine of the Trinity from the fourth-century apostate church. Since that time, the concept of a triune God and a Christ...
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    Continue reading the passage: Col. 1:15 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation; 16 because by means of him all other things were created in the heavens and on the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, whether they are thrones or lordships or...
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    Jesus himself said: John 6:57 (...) the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father (...) 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. (...) In this way he publicly acknowledged that his life had a beginning. When did Jesus' life begin, in heaven or on earth?
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    On the pre-existence of Jesus

    That is a common mistake: implying that Jesus had no beginning because he already existed at the beginning. If I say: "I was a Jehovah's Witness before you were born", or "I was in the Soviet Union at the beginning of its downfall" ... do any of these expressions mean that I have always...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Paul is talking there. Paul never considered Jesus to be God. While speaking to non-Jews in Athens, he utilized rhetoric about an "unknown God" whom the pagans feared, prompting them to erect an altar to avoid wrath. Paul explained to them that this unknown God was actually the Father of...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    I think you didn't actually read the texts. Rev. 21:5 And the One seated on the throne said: “Look! I am making all things new.” Also he says: “Write, for these words are faithful and true.” 6 And he said to me: “They have come to pass! I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the beginning and the...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    In Rev. 1:8 is God the one talking, not Jesus. Jesus is not called with the term Almighty, because Jesus has a God. The only one who can be Almighty is the God of gods: the Father. Meditate in the account in Rev. 5. It starts like this: Rev. 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of the One seated...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Again: that is false as demonstrated in the post you just quoted. Please, don't repeat the same. Stop playing and move to the next point. The Scriptures are clear. The triune-godhead is not a teaching of Jesus or any Christian who followed him in the first century.
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    That Jesus is a god, but not the God that no one has seen. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. 2 This one was in the beginning with God. ... 14 So the Word became flesh and resided among us, and we had a view of his glory, a glory such as...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    You think that is Jesus talking, but it's not. The One talking there is God. In the whole book of Revelation, GOD, the Majesty of the Universe, is sitting on the throne. In chapter 5 Jesus, the Lamb, take a roll from his hand. After that, we read: Rev. 5:9 And they sing a new song, saying...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    At the bottom of the page is the translation of each word in English. Most older manuscripts have "only-begotten god" instead "only-begotten Son" in John 1:18.