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  1. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    I was at a pastor's conference 20 years ago when Bishop Carlton Pearson made the national headlines after being a rising star in the Pentecostal/Charismatic realm. At the conference a pastor asked how they should handle his "heretical theology revelation, which he called Inclusion" (a 'twist'...
  2. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Didn't really want to post it....trying to be more "gentle" than I was being treated. ;) But, stupid is as stupid does.
  3. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Forrest Gump had a better 'saying' for what you just 'did'. MAT 7:1 "Judge not, that you be not judged. 2 For with the judgment you pronounce you will be judged, and the measure you give will be the measure you get. Probably should have just "EVALUATED" me. Oh, wait, you can't do...
  4. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    JAM 5:14 Is any among you sick? Let him call for the elders of the church, and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord; 15 and the prayer of faith will save the sick man, and the Lord will raise him up; and if he has committed sins, he will be forgiven. 16...
  5. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    NOTE; "Word WAS God" NOT 'Word IS God'. NOTE; "Word BECAME flesh" NOT 'Word REMAINED flesh'. Your thehology might as well be saying 'the WORM was God' and 'the WORM' became BUTTERFLY. Therefore 'the BUTTERFLY is a WORM. That's what 'my eyes' are really 'seeing' you believing. Put that empty...
  6. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    In that verse, HE is not saying "I AM GOD", nor is He saying "YOU MUST BELIEVE I AM GOD, or you can't be saved." JOH 8:26 I have much to say about you and much to judge; but he who sent me is true, and I declare to the world what I have heard from him." 27 They did not understand that he...
  7. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Might also show us a verse that says 'BELIEVING HE WAS GOD', is even a required belief for salvation. I know what most of the churches say. But where's 'the meat' of scripture saying so?
  8. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Don't deny it at all. I just don't think it was His body that made Him deity, I believe it was His spirit that made him a "son of God" and his body made Him a "son of man" and His soul made him a "son of David".
  9. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Best answer for me. By the numbers. You know just how clueless I really am with moden tech.
  10. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    I'm disagree and here's why; because God said; "LET US make man IN OUR IMAGE and AFTER OUR LIKENESS." 'Image' equals substance and the substance of GOD was spirit. 'Likeness' equals character. God wanted to represent His invisible spirit image and His visible likeness character to his...
  11. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    SPYDER, how did you get your 'Scripture4all.org' url to copy like you did? Every time I've ever tried to 'Copy/Paste' from that same site, it comes out like this below, which is worthless IMO; John :11 en en G1722 Prep IN arch archE G746 n_ Dat Sg f ORIGINal beginning hn En G2258 vi Impf vxx 3...
  12. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Certainly doesn't lead anywhere for those who have not eyes to see, that's for sure. Yes you certainly do seem to 'GO' that way with every post. Enjoy your trip and we'll know one day who was right and who was wrong.
  13. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Baloney; The WORD became the FLESHLY BODY of A man....Period. And WE don't "down size and limit our Creator" at all. HE did that Himself because he knew people like YOU, can't comprehend what scripture boldly declares. PHI 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who...
  14. Hillsage

    Inerancy - Define, or dismiss?

    I think the whole pied piper thing of calling 'the bible'...'the word of GOD', really got started in the hippie Jesus Revolution era. I don't remember Billy Graham EVER holding up 'the book' and declaring "The WORD OF GOD says". He always called it just what it was 'THE BIBLE SAYS!" And...
  15. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    Don't have to go down a rabbit hole. Just give me ONE VERSE supporting your 'count to two' ground level understanding. " especially on this critical area of scripture for the understanding". So you say!!! Below is just something for those who would like to count beyond 2 in a lesson I put...
  16. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    By "definition" from who? Certainly not by definition from the scriptures IMO. John 4:24 "God IS SPIRIT" I believe that this scripture defines WHAT the image or substance of the triune God IS in this verse. Therefore it seems fair to say; "in the beginning the WORD/LOGOS was spirit, along...
  17. Hillsage

    Apokatastasis in the early church

    Rectify it? He was the one who orchestrated it. He created the tree of the knowledge of GOOD and EVIL. It was Adam's job to take care of the Garden....not keep the most "subtil" beast which was the "serpent" out of the Garden. GEN 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the...
  18. Hillsage

    Inerancy - Define, or dismiss?

    Please hear me...I LOVE THE BIBLE, but I don't worship the book. That verse was only INSPIRED to the 'original autograph'....or person who wrote the original words. And that was written before the SCRIPTURES first became corrupted. Well ,actually that really isn't true either. It started...
  19. Hillsage

    Is the Logos meaningful, or meaningless? - Depends on your view of Logos.

    I see only spirit as being regenerated, or saved via being 're-born' or 'born from above'. I see the soul salvation as being progressively saved/lost, but only if we are totally single minded in obedience to Christ. But if we are doubly minded we will go forward and backslide. I know that's...
  20. Hillsage

    Inerancy - Define, or dismiss?

    What does scripture say? MAT 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Lot of VAINITY in the church I left 5 months ago....and after over 30 years with 4 good pastors. 1CO 1:12 Now this I say, that every one of you saith, I am of Paul; and I of...