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  1. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Jack Taylor , now deceased, was considered 'a pastor to pastors' and our pastor met him at a conference, years ago, where Pastor Kent invited him to come speak at our little church in western Kansas. He did, 3 times over several years, every time a delight. A small group of us were invited to...
  2. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    Nope, I think we think pretty much the same. I just know that from my 2 years in jail ministry every week, how many jailhouse conversions took a 'similar' verse which I quoted earlier with the same word in it. 2TI 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be...
  3. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    Yes they did, and that's the point we are making I think. I always say don't worship the 'book of God', worship the 'God of the book'. That's the problem I think Steven made initially. We have too many translations being made GOD by people here. Whereas I study lots of translations hoping...
  4. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    O boy, here we go already. I really don't like the NIV on this verse. Compare the single Greek word translated as "test and approve" in the NIV, in comparison to KJV, NKJ, RSV, NAS and YLT where they all have the same 'one word' "PROVE". By Strong's definition the single Greek word means...
  5. Hillsage

    Source or Resource? - Understanding the difference

    When there was only 'the church' under the original apostles and the 5 fold ministry and elders at the local levels the gospel went to the world. But when the church of Rome took over and progressively controlled the NT writings I think things went awry. To the point that the people had no...
  6. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    I have to admit that I found 2 in my 52 years as a believer that I truly learned the most from. I called them both the 'anointed pens' in my life. The first one being my foundational years, until the mid 80's and the other from then until his death last year. I believe the first one was...
  7. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    That's almost profound....or maybe prophetic. Certainly has me thinking.
  8. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    Is it a problem? :r.u.n: Only since the original author of each of the books died. What's the solution? JOH 16:13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth; for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to...
  9. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    READS DIFFERENT? What name is on your bible? Is it KING JAMES? If YES, then tell me why it's different below compared to 4 other translations AND with itself? If your bible is KJV, do you want to know another verse IN YOUR BIBLE which translates the same Greek word "REMIT/APHIEMI" as...
  10. Hillsage

    Bibliolatry: Worship/knowledge of the book MORE than the author

    The importance of the book REALLY is revealed when our scripture disagrees with their scripture. So of what value is there really, in the bibles 900 different ENGLISH translations? Translations which have shattered OUR relationships with the ONE CHURCH that "the author" sees, when He looks...
  11. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    You obviously did nothing to back why MY scriptural quote disagrees with your scriptural quote. And you obviously didn't deal with how Jesus could have SPOKEN the word HELL out of his mouth when that word didn't even exist until 775 AD. There are THREE, 3 Greek words that get translated as...
  12. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Philosophically it does "make sense" to me. As to the scriptural based question I asked, not so much. :no reply: I was hoping for more of a 'spiritual truth' analogy backed with even more scripture than I just shared, asking the question. IOW, something plumbing the depths of what you shared...
  13. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Did He really? Young's LITERAL Translation.disagrees along with a hundred other bibles This was the same Young who wrote YOUNG"S Hebrew/Greek Concordance for the Bible. But Strong's became more popullar because his definition agreed with the TIMES he LIVED IN theologically more than the...
  14. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    What if this was 'written' in the bible? JER 8:8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. We have a lot of Holdeman Mennonites in our area. They too are very much KJV only...brethren that I love...
  15. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    Agreed with all you said, but have a question on this one point. WHO does the book/bible say the 'Lake of fire" was made for? MAT 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: So, it appears...
  16. Hillsage

    Everyone Goes to Heaven

    I'm curious as to your take on 'the bible' concerning 'your opinion'? JOH 20:23 If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
  17. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    I still think it goes back to some kind of 'application' type difference between RELATIONSHIP and FELLOWSHIP. The prodigal son did not feel "WORTHY" to be called a son....but he always was, wasn't he? Here at the beginning of 1Joh we run into the opposite of what was said in 1Joh 3. 1JO 1:6...
  18. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    1PE 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed/SPORA, but of incorruptible (sperma), by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. 1JO 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed/SPERMA remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 4701...
  19. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Yes, I too believe that there were many demons. But when the demoniac spoke, the words were from the 'strongman' who was the head demon/evil spirit of the thousands in the demoniac. But 'Legion' simply was a rank. Just like MAJOR commands a 1000 (?) and COLONEL commands 5,000 (?). But the...
  20. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    OK I believe that the one named Legion was the 'strongman' spirit. And the name Legion represented the authority level of that rank. Yes, I too have gone through a few deliverance conferences. But I also have dealt with some by 'starving them out' / "fleeing temptation" and some by 'crowding...