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  1. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    YLT EZE 18:4 Lo, all the souls are Mine, As the soul of the father, So also the soul of the son - they are Mine, The soul that is sinning - it doth die.
  2. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    I guess some things are just better 'caught' than 'taught'. And I don't know what else to say. In the movie; THE GREEN MILE' when they called the inmates on DEATH ROW...."DEAD MAN WALKING"....what did it mean? Were they physically dead, spiritually dead? Or did they just have a DEATH SENTENCE...
  3. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    If it has any application at all, it means you will die someday physically in the FLESH just like Jesus did. But nobody really KILLED Jesus. He released His spirit...the Christ spirit in Him to the Father. AND then He breathed his last breath and was JAM 2:26 For as the body apart from the...
  4. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Been claiming that thing for years. So either DEBATE me or BELIEVE me Bro. :Broadly: COL 2:13 And you, who were dead in trespasses and the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made alive together with him, having forgiven us all our trespasses, Where is the qualifying word...that being...
  5. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Adam never died spiritually He walked like ENOCH walked perfectly, but Adam did so, only after committing that one sin. He walked 970 years. Enoch walked perfectly never having lived in the Garden and therefore God took him. Nobody lost the chance to remain in "the presence of the Lord". Not...
  6. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    You believe in the curse was spiritual death????? I've said this a hundred times and you've never said anything contrary, that i remember; "Adam and Eve did not die spiritually!" In fact; they actually gave access to another spirit, when they opened the door of temptation to another spirit...
  7. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    He would have lived as long as the life He came to give to us. Physical Immortality, His spirit like, all spirits was eternal to begin with.. and His ‘situation’ is the eternal glorified body of ‘the WORD BECAME FLESH. And He sits at the right hand of the Father. IMO. .
  8. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    therefore a sinless accomplice in 'the sin nature' with those who did sin; 1JO 3:5 You know that he appeared to take away sins, and in him there is no sin. again a sinless accomplice with those who did sin; 1PE 2:22 He committed no sin; no guile was found on his lips. still a sinless...
  9. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Wasn't that begotten son's "body"/"flesh" formerly 'God the WORD'? Kind of why I was alluding to the "suicide" angle. From your previous 716 post; You never dealt with the question from my last text; "Or is this where someone who drove the getaway car gets charged for murder, when someone...
  10. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    'Letter of the law' counselor. ;) ; God didn't "brutally punish" Jesus....the Jews and the Romans did. JOH 19:10 Pilate therefore said to him, "You will not speak to me? Do you not know that I have power to release you, and power to crucify you?" 11 Jesus answered him, "You would have no...
  11. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Same thing that made him create Satan to begin with. Being omniscient, He knew 'the end before the beginning', of Satan and us. :hmhehm
  12. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Being born with a sin nature, and being a sinner is two different things. The sin nature actually comes before birth, in the womb, before a sin is ever committed. Unless a 'sinful flesh' fetus kicking its mamma in the gut counts. Might want to ask a 'mother to be' if she'd send her fetus to...
  13. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Maybe NOT. You’re adding to scripture something that has purposely been left out. He left the soul out BECAUSE that one is up to you. Just like I've been saying all along. And just like He left SPIRIT out of another list. MAT 10:28 'And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not...
  14. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    Saying you could resist the ‘grace’ was an error, and a partially deleted sentence. Yes fasting is also called afflicting the soul in the OT. I also believe that if we don’t humble ourselves God can sovereignly do so after the counsel of His will.
  15. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    You have not understood what I have said; You do not understand the difference between RIGHTEOUSNESS not of your work versus RIGHTEOUSNESS which is by your WORKing out your SOUL's salvation AFTER receiving the salvation of your SPIRIT which Jesus did ALL the work for. RIGHTEOUSNESS IMPUTED...
  16. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    The only thing “perfected” is the old spirit which upon rebirth has become the Spirit of Christ in you though Justification. Now you have to “work out your (SOUL’S) salvation with Fear and trembling”. Progressing to perfection. “Therefore, my beloved, as you have always obeyed, not as in my...
  17. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    You are saved by the power of God when your spirit is born again. You soul is sanctified when you obey the convicting holy spirit of Christ IN you,. When you do, then you have humbled yourself which allows God to give you the GRACE which is the power to achieve what God's truth demands. And...
  18. Hillsage

    Is God Magnanimous? - (as opposed to tyrannical)

    Not sure on some of these bro. Answer; 1 Yes, I think he "is known for showing kindness or forgiveness." 2 ROM 12:19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God; for it is written, "Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord." 3 A "hothead"? Don't know of a per se...
  19. Hillsage

    Why do some people not like the idea of OSAS?

    That’s not my observation. The church wouldn’t be as fractured as it is if it was as simple as that. :My2c: Your "spirit" (seed) is what was saved by an instantaneous NEW BIRTH....OSAS. This gets you INTO heaven. IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS. You never did anything good enough to earn it and can't...