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  1. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    You completely ignored my post and continue to dwell on the 144,000 and a 1,000 year millennium with sacrifices re-instated and in complete denial that my post showed that once Christ died and was resurrected, the temple in Jerusalem destroyed and the fact that there is NO mention of the 144,000...
  2. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Yes, in it's raw form,... - God was the head of the "church of Paradise"...Gen. 2:15 - "the Lord God took the man and place him in the Garden of Eden to work it and watch over it." - God was, and still is, the head of the "church" (ekklesia). - Adam was the first "pastor of the "church" - Eve...
  3. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    @ Timtofly Your entire theology that you have presented as a dispenstionsalist is contrary to God's overall plan of redemption that begain in Genesis 3:15. That "plan" continued through the OT with promises in the OT covenants as a foundation to build on until the final covenant of redemption by...
  4. Moriah's Song

    HERESY?

    Interestingly, the phrase "Jesus is God" is not in the Bible. Yet, there are many verses that do "imply" that "Jesus is God" but it would be more appropriate to say "Jesus was God in the flesh." In my opinion, this verse says it all without using "Jesus is God".... "Jhn 8:58...Jesus said to...
  5. Moriah's Song

    HERESY?

    No I am definitely not a troll :eek:
  6. Moriah's Song

    HERESY?

    @GodsGrace - troll is on!
  7. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    That's an "oxymoron." "a" = 1 group not 3 separate groups. That's a product of your own vivid imagination that is a false interpretaton of the wheat and the sheep and it's consdered to be a heresy.
  8. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    1- "You are wise not to interpret Scripture yourself." I would say that it would be wise for you to learn something about hermeneutics yourself Tim. The 144,000 is in no way those who are going to be on earth after the second coming. The ONLY time you see 144,000 mentioned is the 144,000 that...
  9. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    1- How did God rule over humans after the flood? God sent the flood to judge the world at that time of heinous, continual, worldwide sin. Yes, He knew that the flood would not eradicate the sin problem and that mankind would remain sinful after the flood. But God was not done dealing with sin...
  10. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Would your explain in more detail what you mean by...."there will be saints on the earth at this time"...and "never to the unconfessed stangers of the earth"? - at what "time" are you referring to? - in "unconfessed strangers" are you referring to those left behind in a pre-mil "rapture? What...
  11. Moriah's Song

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    LOVE THAT! :D O. Palmer Robertson, Th.D. is well known for having written 3 of the best selling books on the market. They are titled: "The Christ of the Covenants" "The Christ of the Prophets" "The Israel of God." I have all 3 and refer to them often.
  12. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Great topic truth! A bond of life and death was established between God and man after the fall into sin. The Lord sovereignly committed himself to establish enmity between the seed of the woman and the seed of Satan (Genesis 3:15). This divine commitment set the stage of a life-and-death...
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    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Still off topic? Now it's heretic Popes vs. Hitler?
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    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    10:32 - "Give no occasions of stumbling, either to Jews, or to Greeks, or to the church of God": Read the context! Paul is basically saying "Don't offend anyone by something you do that would cause a person to reject Christ." It says NOTHING whatsoever about "two separte groups of people" as...
  15. Moriah's Song

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    No one forcing you to stay either! Most here would LOVE TO SEE YOU LEAVE so we can get back to the OP.
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    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    That is heresy! Only Jesus is the "ark of our salvation" -- no one else! Rev 11:19 - Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; No mention of Mary whatsoeverin the entire book of Revelation! To put Mary as "the new ark of the living Word"...
  17. Moriah's Song

    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    Wiggle-worming around "worship" for a judge in England does not have the same intent that idol "worship" of Mary has worldwide in the Roman Catholic church. This is also called a "straw-mans" argument. It is always easy to see the absurdness of that kind.
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    Christians are not under the New Covenant

    synonyms for reverence: venerate, revere, awe, worship, adoration, homage, awe synonyms for devotion: worship, dedicaton, devoutness, piety, loyalty, allegiance, fidelity