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  1. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    The symbolism of the "sheep" goes all the way back to the Garden of Eden... Gen 4:2..."Now Abel was a keeper of sheep, and Cain a tiller of the ground. Gen 4:3...In the course of time Cain brought to the LORD an offering of the fruit of the ground, Gen 4:4...and Abel brought of the firstlings of...
  2. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    I thought I might have been misreading that but wanted to make sure. :)
  3. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Not too sure what you mean by that. Do you mean that the temple was not literally destroyed in 70 a.d.? I think Jesus was referring to his body being raised from the dead was a spiritual reference to his literal body being then raised. But later, upon his ascension his body became "glorified."...
  4. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    I agree for the most part about the "same planned sermon topic each week." I know it exists and have seen it but I would not put all pastors in the same box though. What I do disagree on in our church is the 'Lifeway Bible Studies for Life" Sunday School books that are used as a must do thing. I...
  5. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    I respect both of them but it was when I first attended a church as an adult, my pastor who had an excellent perspective on scripture told me that "just about everything I needed to know could be found in Genesis 3:15 because the rest of the Bible was built on that foundation. He was a wise and...
  6. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    That is the only useage of "holy city" Mat 4:5...Then the devil took him to the holy city, and set him on the pinnacle of the temple, Mat 27:53...and coming out of the tombs after his resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many. The symbolism in Revelations: Rev 11:2...but...
  7. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Literalism is destroying the truth of God's Word when it refuses to believe that "a thousand" could not possibly ever be "symbolized" as in... 2 Peter 3:8...But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. Psalms...
  8. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    People end up twisting scripture because they went to scripture to find verses that support their pre-conceived views on pre-millennialism or dispensationalism rather than taking God's Word for what it actually says. One word for it though is "indoctrination." 2 Timothy 4:3-4 - For the time...
  9. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    To put it simply, Rome destroyed the Temple (and ransacked Jerusalem) in A.D. 70 because Jesus prophesied that the Temple would be destroyed. As Jesus was coming into Jerusalem shortly before He was to be betrayed and sent to trial, Luke writes that: Now as He drew near, He saw the city and...
  10. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    WRONG!!!! I did an extensive study on Matthew 27. key words point to the Holy City / the New Jerusalem. Earthy Jerusalem was by no means a Holy City at the time of Christ or he would not have it demolished in 70 a.D.
  11. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Rev 20:4...Then I saw thrones, and seated on them were those to whom judgment was committed. Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and for the word of God, and who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads...
  12. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    There is no space for a thousand year reign on this earth or any of the other events which are speculated to occur on or around the judgment. Time does not have the same meaning to us as it does to the eternal God. Jesus' second coming could be at any time and we should always be ready for it...
  13. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    You too should read some of the above post of mine and Gen2REV's and other AMILLS.
  14. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    I never said there was a mixed "race" in the Garden of Eden. Religious beliefs of people are not a "race" of people. Adam and Eve were "gentiles" because the "Jews/Israelites" had not become a religious group until circumcision days. That makes Abraham a Gentile until circumcision made him a...
  15. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Tim, you keep showing your inability to deal with several above posts.
  16. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    That's only because you see it with blindfolds on.
  17. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Don't put all Amils in the same box. I don't ignore Rev. 20 any more than the remainder of Revelations. However, the major differnce between amils' and premils' view of the book is that premil's use it literally to base their heretical dispensational theories on the highly symbolism contained in...
  18. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Oh yes, GEN2REV did need to post things that oppose your theories that Darby created in the early 1800's. But, as usual in other threads you have been on, you live in the world of Revelations symbolism that even theologians can't agree on. Yet you seem to think your views are more important...
  19. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    So you agree that you really don't have a need for aa 1,000 year millennim but Jesus is going to reign from Jerusalem for 1,000 years? :confused: Also, since you say there is no need for a new temple then what is he here for and where is he going to reign from? The dome of the rocK? I think...
  20. Moriah's Song

    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    Then you have no need for a 1,000 year millennium now do you?