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  1. Spiritual Israelite

    The resurection at the time of great tribulation

    You should try actually reading scripture some time. 1 Thessalonians 5:23 And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. You say we have no spirit. Scripture says we are made up...
  2. Spiritual Israelite

    Why do Premillennialists not believe that 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 and 2 Peter 3:10-13 refer to the same event?

    The destruction would not be sudden in that case because both Peter and Paul indicate that the destruction occurs, or at least begins to occur, upon the arrival of Christ as a thief in the night and neither of them gave any indication at all that the destruction would not occur until a long time...
  3. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    Zechariah 14 can't possibly have anything to do with a time period after His return because that would mean that obsolete animal sacrifices would be reinstated (impossible - read Hebrews 8 to 10) which would suggest that Christ's "once for all" sacrifice wasn't sufficient. And it would mean that...
  4. Spiritual Israelite

    The Holy People and the Treaty

    Why can't you read scripture properly? There is only one prince in verse 26. The same prince referenced in verse 25. You said the beast is Satan because you said "They are one and the same". Now you're backtracking?
  5. Spiritual Israelite

    The Holy People and the Treaty

    Says the guy who uses a translation that is full of errors. No, it says the people of the prince that shall come destroy the city and the sanctuary. It does not say the prince does that. Jesus was ethnically a Jew so His people in an ethnic sense were the Jews and they were responsible for the...
  6. Spiritual Israelite

    The Holy People and the Treaty

    Absolutely right. Verse 25 mentions a coming Messiah Prince and then verse 26 again mentions a Messiah and a coming prince. What basis is there for thinking that the coming prince referenced in verse 26 is some other coming prince than the one mentioned in verse 25? None. That's like saying that...
  7. Spiritual Israelite

    Surely Premils must invent 2 future glorifications days and 2 future raptures separated by 1000 years+?

    Absolutely true. And some of them have the gall to say that we don't take scripture literally?! No, we take it literally when it's literal and spiritually when it's spiritual. As you indicated, they instead often take the spiritual text literally and the literal text spiritually.
  8. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    How about rebuilder 454's playpen? Same thing. LOL. As if you have any idea how to debate.
  9. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    But, you have to care. He really, really wants you to get away from him. Okay, jr. I kid! <smile> That truly is his only purpose in being here. He complains about personal insults while making personal insults. It's hilariously hypocritical.
  10. Spiritual Israelite

    The Four Stages of Mankind's Redemption:

    In relation specifically to the church, yes. What does this mean exactly? Are not both Jew and Gentile saved the same way? What promises are you talking about exactly? What do you mean by "His people Israel"? Do you mean it the same way that Paul described? Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God...
  11. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Are you trying to change the subject? We're talking about something that was a reality when he wrote Revelation 1:5-6, not something that will happen in the future.
  12. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    Did you not read my post? I showed verses from other parts of scripture identifying 3 of them as actual churches that existed in the first century. I also give you a link that gives historical information on all 7 churches. What?!
  13. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    LOL. Says the guy who attacks others personally like when he says things like this: Look in the mirror, hypocrite. Wrong. As if you don't go personal? You are a total hypocrite. I can debate FAR better than you can as everyone here can see. I give coherent arguments to back up my claims...
  14. Spiritual Israelite

    The Coming Rapture

    It shouldn't cause any confusion. People confuse themselves. Everyone can see that it talks about us being caught up to Him "in the air" and not to heaven. The word "rapture" does not mean "caught up to heaven" it just means being caught up to meet Christ. Now, you're doing the same kind of...
  15. Spiritual Israelite

    The Holy People and the Treaty

    This shows an incredible lack of discernment. KJV Translation: Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Keraz Nonsense Translation: Revelation 13:4 And...
  16. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    John referred to "us" in that passage, implying that he was including himself as well as the ones he was writing to.
  17. Spiritual Israelite

    Indisputable proof that the Premillennial theory contradicts Scripture

    We're talking about history here, so in that case you have to look at historical evidence not only in scripture, but also outside of scripture. But, there is scriptural evidence for there being actual churches in Ephesus, Laodicea and Thyatira. Scriptural references to the church in Ephesus...
  18. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    Absolutely. Jesus would not have said that it will be like what happened in Sodom if He didn't mean it. And Sodom was destroyed by literal fire. As Jesus said "Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.". The destruction that will happen when He comes again will be by fire...
  19. Spiritual Israelite

    Babylon

    He keeps blatantly lying about what you believe. You never said that His kingdom is not on this earth at all. You only have said that it's not an earthly kingdom of this world (earthly kingdoms of this world are evil and against God) and it's a spiritual kingdom instead, which is the truth. How...