The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

Zao is life said:
Yes. Those who had been beheaded by the beast that had ascended from the abyss, whom John saw as alive in their bodies [zao], which he called the first resurrection, saying that they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

There is "One" future resurrection of "All" that have lived, it takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" The End

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life
2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
What does the following tell you?

Rv 20:4-5
which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

It tells me that those martyred believers during the tribulation are waiting upon the last day resurrection at the second coming of Jesus Christ (The End) as seen in post #1641 above

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

Davy said:
That means it is impossible for a 2nd resurrection of the dead in graves to happen after Christ's "thousand years" reign. That points to the Rev.20:5 idea that the "dead lived not again until..." has to have some other meaning.

Brethren in Christ, Davy is in error teaching of a literal 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ that's not found in scripture

CTK · Mar 30, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Brethren in Christ, Davy is in error teaching of a literal 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ that's not found in scripture

Rv 20:4-5
which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
Rv 20:4-5
which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

WPM · Mar 30, 2025

Davidpt said:
In another post you indicated the beast has been around since the beginning. I do not disagree with that. What about the false prophet, though? Has the false prophet also been around since the beginning? Let's not forget about him or it or they, whatever the fp might be. According to Revelation 13 the fp ascends out of the earth. It doesn't say instead that it ascends out of the pit

These martyrs recorded in Revelation 20:4---which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands---there is no way that the fp did not have a hand in their martyrdom.

Revelation 20:4---which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands

THe idea is to use Scripture to interpret Scripture. Which means we should be interpreting this in light of Revelation 13, for one. Anyone not doing that, interpreting Revelation 20:4---which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands--in light of Revelation 13 couldn't possibly be interpreting the timing of the thousand years correctly.

This doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what you're trying to say. But Revelation 20 relates to the intra-advent.

CTK · Mar 30, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Please just try and answer the question.

CTK · Mar 30, 2025

WPM said:
This doesn't make sense to me. I don't know what you're trying to say. But Revelation 20 relates to the intra-advent.

Would you also please answer the question regarding the verse showing the 1000 years?

CTK · Mar 30, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand year

Please consider....

1) The phrase “a thousand years” appears six times in Revelation 20:2–7. That’s unusually repetitive for such a short passage, which suggests deliberate emphasis. If the Holy Spirit intended the number to be symbolic, He would not have repeated it six times without any qualifying metaphorical language. Repetition strengthens the case for a specific, measurable time period.

“They lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years...” (v.4)
The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were finished...” (v.5)

2) Also, Revelation 20 presents a logical timeline. This structure suggests actual, sequential events, not symbolic or overlapping metaphors. There’s nothing in the context indicating that John intended these events to be taken figuratively or as “happening in heaven” only.

Satan is bound
The righteous are resurrected and reign with Christ
After 1,000 years, Satan is released
A final rebellion is crushed
The final judgment takes place

3) Verse 4 speaks of souls being resurrected (the “first resurrection”), and verse 5 contrasts that with the resurrection of the rest of the dead after the 1,000 years. If the resurrections are literal physical events, then the timeframe separating them must also be literal. You can’t have two literal resurrections separated by a symbolic interval and still keep the timeline consistent.

4) While numbers in Revelation are often symbolic (like “7,” “12,” or “144,000”), the number 1,000 is often used literally in Scripture: The symbolic use of 1,000 in poetic texts doesn’t automatically make every use of 1,000 symbolic. In narrative prophecy, like Revelation 20, the default is literal unless something in the text clearly signals otherwise—and it doesn’t here.

Psalm 90:4 says a thousand years are like yesterday to God—but that's from God’s eternal perspective, not meant to negate the existence of literal time.
2 Peter 3:8 uses similar language to teach patience, not to redefine prophecy.

5) Symbolizing the 1,000 years blurs the clarity of key prophetic events. A literal interpretation keeps these events sequential, distinct, and measurable, just as they are presented. If the 1,000 years are symbolic, then,

When does Satan’s binding happen?
What marks the end of that period?
When is the resurrection of the wicked?
What distinguishes the first resurrection from the second?

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
1) The phrase “a thousand years” appears six times in Revelation 20:2–7. That’s unusually repetitive for such a short passage, which suggests deliberate emphasis. If the Holy Spirit intended the number to be symbolic, He would not have repeated it six times without any qualifying metaphorical language.

Is the time seen below in 2 Peter 3:8 one literal day or one thousand literal years?

"It's neither", it's doing nothing more than showing the human mind that in the Lord's eternal spiritual realm literal time doesn't exist, it's that simple

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
1.) When does Satan’s binding happen?
2.) What marks the end of that period?

Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
When is the resurrection of the wicked?

What distinguishes the first resurrection from the second?

There are (Two) resurrections on this (Last Day) the righteous are blessed to be in the (First Resurrection) to eternal life, on such the (Second Death) resurrection has no power.

1.) (First Resurrection) To Life
2.) (Second Death) Resurrection To Damnation

Revelation 20:6KJV
Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

The (Last Day) Resurrection Of All Below

Daniel 12:1-2KJV
1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
2 And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

1 Corinthians 15:21-24KJV
21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.

The (Last Day) Judgement

John 12:48KJV
48 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

Truth7t7 · Mar 30, 2025

CTK said:
When is the resurrection of the wicked?

What distinguishes the first resurrection from the second?

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV
39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life
2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

TribulationSigns · Mar 30, 2025

Marty fox said:
I don’t see Apollyon being released as the same time as satans release at all

Incorrect. Apollyon “IS” Satan.

Revelation 9:11

"And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon."

Actually, Satan is not an Angel, he is a SPIRIT, the "messenger" of evil, and Apollyon (or Abaddon) is Satan, that very same spirit and king ruling over the deceived. Satan doesn't give command to Apollyon, Satan is Apollyon. That word means destruction, and that is the epitome of what he does here. He is the king or ruler of this spiritual army from the abyss, and what he brings is death to these people. This Hebrew word [abaddon] only occurs here in the New Testament and 5 times in the Old Testament (Job 26:6; 28:22; 31:12; Psalm 88:11; Prov 15:11 ) and always relates to death, which this messenger from hell/hades brings to the unfaithful congregation (those in it who are not truly sealed).

Satan's interest is absolutely in attacking the church, and in Revelation 20 when he is loosed God makes that point even more abundantly clear. It's the evil spirit Satan's "whole persona" and reason for existence. He is the absolute quintessential adversary of the church, not the world which is already his domain. The world is his own, it's already his kingdom that he's not fighting against because a kingdom divided against itself cannot stand. The word of God encourages us to make our calling and election sure not because Satan has no interest in attacking the church, but because that is his whole character, his entire modus operandi. Satan isn't loosed to attack his own kingdom, but as judgment upon the unfaithful church, just as in the old Testament God loosed wicked empires upon Israel as judgment for their rebellions. The fact is, the judgment and apostasy comes specifically because Satan is loosed by God upon a rebellious church that will not receive His truth in the love wherewith it was given. Apostasy is a falling away of the church, not a falling away of the world. The world is already fallen.

2nd Thessalonians 2:9-11

"Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness."

The false Christs and false prophets that come to deceive are attacking the church, and who do they deceive there? Under rule of the Apollyon, the great destroyer Satan, they bring the rebellious church to desolation by deceiving those men within it that do not have the seal of God in their foreheads.

Revelation 7:2-3

"And I saw another messenger ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four messengers, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,
Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads."

That's the whole reason Satan was bound in the bottomless pit, so that He could not go forth deceiving the nations until after the 144,000 of Israel were all sealed (secured) with the Spirit of promise. But once the church has done its job, their testimony finished, then he is loosed as locusts upon the grass. The point being NOTuntil God has sealed/saved everyone that He intends to save.

For example, those who have not made their calling and election sure (2nd Peter 1:10). God brings this spiritual judgment of delusion upon His Temple because these are those who would not receive the love of truth (2nd Thessalonians 2:12), instead getting their pleasure from unrighteousness. The destroyer comes up against the camp of the saints, not his own camp and his own people and his own kingdom.

Selah.

Davidpt · Mar 31, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Satan is "Currently" bound from "One Specific Purpose", And One Only?

"Deceive The Nations" To Battle

The Non-Literal 1,000 Years (Revelation) 20:1-6 Are Taking Place Now In The Lords Spiritual, And Will Cease At The Future Second Coming

If A Tribulation Saint Were To Die One Day Before The Second Coming, He Enters Into The Non-Literal 1,000 Year Reign

Many That Promote Millennialism Falsely Teach, Satan Cant Be Presently Bound Because Evil Exist In The World?

Satan Is Presently Bound As Is Clearly Seen In (Revelation) 20:7-8 Below That Interprets (Deceive The Nations) Is To Battle, Not General Evil In The World Presently.

Satan Is Loosed At The End Of The Tribulation When The 6th Vial Is Poured Out As Seen In (Revelation) 16:12, The Deception Is Devils In False Miracles Going Forth To The Kings Of The Earth, To Gather Them To The Final Battle

(Revelation) 20:1-9KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.
7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.
9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.

(Revelation) 16:12-14 & (Revelation) 20:7-8 Same Deception In Gathering The Nations To The Very Same Final Battle In "Parallel" Teachings Of The Same Event

(Revelation) 16:12-17KJV
12 And the sixth angel poured out his vial upon the great river Euphrates; and the water thereof was dried up, that the way of the kings of the east might be prepared.
13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.
17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done.

The logic would be this then. He is bound so that he can't deceive the nations to battle anymore until the thousand years are finished. Which then begs the question. What nations was he initially deceiving to battle before getting bound 2000 years ago? After all, what he does after the thousand years has to be the same thing he was doing before the thousand years. Otherwise, it makes nonsense out of the 'no more' part'. Keeping in mind, in the real world, for example, when someone gets locked up it is because of what they were doing, not what they weren't doing.

Zao is life · Mar 31, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
There is "One" future resurrection of "All" that have lived, it takes place at the second coming of Jesus Christ on "The Last Day" The End

Revelation 20:6 "The First Resurrection" Explained

There will be "Two Future Resurrections" on "The Last Day" the righteous saved are "Blessed" to be in "The First Resurrection" to eternal life, the second death resurrection has no power over the righteous saved

The second death will see the unsaved wicked being in "The Second Resurrection" to eternal damnation in the lake of fire, or the "Second Death"

"The Last Day" Resurrection of "All"

John 6:39-40KJV

39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.
40 And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.

Revelation 20:6KJV
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

1.) The First Resurrection To Eternal Life
2.) The Second Resurrection To Eternal Damnation, Second Death

John 5:28-29KJV
28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

(The First Resurrection Of The Righteous Saved) The Dead In Christ Shall Rise "First"

1 Thessalonians 4:16KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

(The Second Resurrection Of The Wicked To The Second Death In Eternal Damnation)

Revelation 20:13-14KJV
13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.
14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

and the rest of the dead did not live again in their bodies [anazao] until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection of the body from the dead [anastasis]. Blessed and holy is He that has part in the first resurrection of the body [anastasis]. The second death has no authority over them and they will be priests of God and will reign with Christ a thousand years.

So according to you the last day lasts a thousand years.

Truth7t7 · Mar 31, 2025

Davidpt said:
The logic would be this then. He is bound so that he can't deceive the nations to battle anymore until the thousand years are finished. Which then begs the question. What nations was he initially deceiving to battle before getting bound 2000 years ago? After all, what he does after the thousand years has to be the same thing he was doing before the thousand years. Otherwise, it makes nonsense out of the 'no more' part'. Keeping in mind, in the real world, for example, when someone gets locked up it is because of what they were doing, not what they weren't doing.

Your problem is that you see the words "Thousand Years" as literal earthly time and it's not, the words "Zillion Years" could be used, the words "Thousand Years" represents God's eternal in the spiritual, its that simple

Is the time seen below in 2 Peter 3:8 one literal day or one thousand literal years?

"It's neither", it's doing nothing more than showing the human mind that in the Lord's eternal spiritual realm literal time doesn't exist, it's that simple

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Truth7t7 · Mar 31, 2025

Zao is life said:
and the rest of the dead did not live again in their bodies [anazao] until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection of the body from the dead [anastasis]. Blessed and holy is He that has part in the first resurrection of the body [anastasis]. The second death has no authority over them and they will be priests of God and will reign with Christ a thousand years.

So according to you the last day lasts a thousand years.

Please refer to post #1657 above

rwb · Mar 31, 2025

CTK said:
Please consider....

1) The phrase “a thousand years” appears six times in Revelation 20:2–7. That’s unusually repetitive for such a short passage, which suggests deliberate emphasis. If the Holy Spirit intended the number to be symbolic, He would not have repeated it six times without any qualifying metaphorical language. Repetition strengthens the case for a specific, measurable time period.

“They lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years...” (v.4)

The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were finished...” (v.5)

2) Also, Revelation 20 presents a logical timeline. This structure suggests actual, sequential events, not symbolic or overlapping metaphors. There’s nothing in the context indicating that John intended these events to be taken figuratively or as “happening in heaven” only.

Satan is bound

The righteous are resurrected and reign with Christ

After 1,000 years, Satan is released

A final rebellion is crushed

The final judgment takes place

3) Verse 4 speaks of souls being resurrected (the “first resurrection”), and verse 5 contrasts that with the resurrection of the rest of the dead after the 1,000 years. If the resurrections are literal physical events, then the timeframe separating them must also be literal. You can’t have two literal resurrections separated by a symbolic interval and still keep the timeline consistent.

4) While numbers in Revelation are often symbolic (like “7,” “12,” or “144,000”), the number 1,000 is often used literally in Scripture: The symbolic use of 1,000 in poetic texts doesn’t automatically make every use of 1,000 symbolic. In narrative prophecy, like Revelation 20, the default is literal unless something in the text clearly signals otherwise—and it doesn’t here.

Psalm 90:4 says a thousand years are like yesterday to God—but that's from God’s eternal perspective, not meant to negate the existence of literal time.

2 Peter 3:8 uses similar language to teach patience, not to redefine prophecy.

5) Symbolizing the 1,000 years blurs the clarity of key prophetic events. A literal interpretation keeps these events sequential, distinct, and measurable, just as they are presented. If the 1,000 years are symbolic, then,

When does Satan’s binding happen?

What marks the end of that period?

When is the resurrection of the wicked?

What distinguishes the first resurrection from the second?

Hello Charlie, the text of Rev 20 tells us (vs 4) the martyred saints lived and reigned with Christ for 'a' thousand years, and it also tells us the blessed and holy, those of the first resurrection (vs 6) shall reign with Christ 'a' thousand years. John also writes (vs 5) the rest of the dead lived not again until 'the' thousand years were finished. Then John writes "this is the first resurrection." Both 'a' thousand and 'the' thousand years speak of the same period of time. This time is when mankind is either physically alive living/reigning with Christ, have physically died who are still living "souls" in heaven, OR those belonging to the DEAD who NEVER in physical life live and reign with Christ. That's why they are called "the rest of the dead" who shall not live until the thousand years is finished. The rest of the DEAD are not part of the "first resurrection" that man MUST have part in to overcome the second death (vs 6). Why? Because none shall be physically resurrected until 'the' thousand years have finished. Only those saints who have died in faith, with those who shall be blessed and holy before they die "shall reign with him a thousand years." How can both living and martyred saints live and reign with Christ for ONE thousand years of physical time since John shows us the thousand years are not limited to time when mankind of faith is physically alive on this earth?

Revelation 20:4-6 (KJV) And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

Those having part in the first resurrection and overcome the second death, being priest of God and of Christ both have lived and reigned and shall reign with Christ "a thousand years." How can this time be literal since it is time that has expired for all who have physically died in faith, but also time when the "blessed and holy he that hath part in the first resurrection" and overcome the second death, have lived and shall live?

Notice also that John shows us the fate for the rest of the DEAD when he writes after the thousand years have finished ALL of the DEAD both small and great shall be called to stand before the great white throne to give account before God according to what is found written in the books and the book of life. These shall only be made physically alive again to be cast into the lake of fire that is the second death. The DEAD after the thousand years have finished are only made alive to die forever.

Revelation 20:12-15 (KJV) And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

We clearly see the first resurrection man MUST have part in to overcome the second death (LOF) is spiritual and not physical. It is not physically ONE thousand years of time, but rather "a thousand years" symbolizes the time man is living in since Christ has come to earth a man, making Himself the first to physically resurrect from the dead to never die again.

The Bible makes no mention of a "second" resurrection separated by one thousand years of time. It speaks only of the first resurrection which is of Christ, and the bodily resurrection that shall be for ALL who are in the graves that shall be in an hour coming when the last trumpet sounds, and time shall be no longer. The physical resurrection to come does not separate saints and sinners. ALL in the graves are resurrected in an hour that is coming. The saints, those having done good in life bodily resurrected immortal and incorruptible, and those who have done evil resurrected to be cast into the lake of fire, the second death.

Davy · Mar 31, 2025

Truth7t7 said:
Brethren in Christ, Davy is in error teaching of a literal 1,000 year reign of Jesus Christ that's not found in scripture

Brethren in Christ, those who can actually 'read' for themselves... Truth7t7 is telling a FAT LIE against Christ's future LITERAL "thousand years" reign with His elect saints for AFTER the time of "great tribulation"... AS WRITTEN...

Rev 20:1-6
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.

4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
KJV

Truth7t7 even is using a forum name that is actually a disguise, so that he can push lies here and make the Biblically illiterate think he represents God's Truth. Those he is listening to are followers of the devil, and the devil well understands Bible Scripture, but goes against God and His Christ and His Word, adding or taking away from it so at to twist it. The devil's position that Truth7t7 is on is the FALSE theory of Amillennialism which wholly rejects the above simple literal Revelation 20 Scripture about Christ's future "thousand years" reign with His elect saints.

The above timing shown there in Revelation 20 is EASY, because it shows the time when Satan is locked in his pit prison so that he CANNOT DECEIVE the nations, which to this day, has NOT YET happened (See 1 Peter 5:8).

Also in that Revelation 20 Scripture above is shown a time of the saints for AFTER the "great tribulation". That because the time of that false worship of the beast, or worship of his image, or receiving his mark of the beast in one's forehead or hand, is for the "great tribulation" time at the very end of this world, which Jesus returns to end that working and gather His saints. Thus the above Revelation 20:1-6 verses are clearly post-tribulation timing with Christ having returned.

A time marker in the above Scripture that reveals it is post-tribulation timing after Christ has returned is that manifesting of those saints who went through the "great tribulation" (along with the other saints), have then been literally made "priests of God and of Christ". That will occur only at Christ's future return and gathering of His Church and handing out His rewards to His faithful elect saints.

And yet another marker the above Scripture is only for after Christ's future return is that idea of those saints representing the "first resurrection". That resurrection of the saints that have died is still... future to us today, as it will only happen on the day of Christ's future 2nd coming, the last day of this world like Jesus said in John 6:40.

Like the old saying, 'Even a blind hog can find an acorn sometimes', those like Truth7t7 who listen to the devil's doctrines for the blind cannot even find all the many 'acorns' in that above Revelation 20 Scripture about Christ's future LITERAL "thousand years" reign with His elect priests.

The many errors and contradictions found in Amillennialism.

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