Did Jesus inherit sinful flesh nature?

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Magdala

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I am not getting on this carousel with you again. It’s like trying to reason with a three year old who can’t understand why anyone would want to take a candy bar off them…..they like it and it tastes good so what’s the problem? The child is a diabetic….dedicated to their taste buds, but not aware of the effects of a sugar overload on their health.

I’m done.

What are you talking about? You are the one who made the following statements:

1. (I) "God is “capable” of anything he wants"
(II) "Who am I to imagine what God is capable of being? Does anyone really know?"

2. (I) "God is capable of anything" which includes incarnating Himself as a human (a mortal)
(II) "God [...] could not be mortal [...]"

3. (I) "he [God] cannot die…..do you even remotely understand the concept of immortality?"

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My response to set 1. was "Are you taking back your statement that God is capable of anything?"

My response to set 2. was "Those statements contradict each other. So, were you trying to say that God is capable of incarnating Himself as a human, but incapable of undergoing physical death as a human?"

My response to 3. was "God is immortal in spirit form, because spirits are incorporeal, and thus are not subject to the limit of physical death, but God is also eternal which means He has no end, and wouldn't cease to exist even if He were to physically die as a mortal. Unless you tell me differently, we agree that God is capable of incarnating Himself as a human. And, if a sinless human is the perfect equivalent of Adam as you say, then would God as a human not be the perfect equivalent of Adam when He is sinless?"

Rather than address my responses, you're making me the problem and using me as an excuse to avoid doing just that.
 
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The Bible says God created man in his own image.
The Bible says that Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God.
In the Bible Jesus says you see me and you see the Father.
In the Bible Jesus says I am not according to my own will, I am according to the Father's will. In the Bible God says, " You may eat of the tree of life, but you shall not eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,when you eat it You will surely die.
I said: obey God's word/will, study God's word/will,only God is good.
Forget the theories in the world that you know the knowledge of good and evil,(the result of which can make a person blind and deaf).
I like your approach to the Bible…..it is simple, uncomplicated and beautifully child-like as Jesus said we should be as meek and teachable as young children. They don’t complicate things with their own ideas, but will absorb knowledge as it is taught to them by word and by example, where both are as important as each other. So who are our teachers?

For Israel, it was Moses and his faithful successors, appointed by God and guided by his spirit to finally lead the people to the Promised Land. if only they had listened and obeyed the instructions of their God…as he said through the prophet Isaiah…

Isaiah 48:17-19….
”This is what Jehovah says, your Repurchaser, the Holy One of Israel:
“I, Jehovah, am your God,
The One teaching you to benefit yourself,
The One guiding you in the way you should walk.
18 If only you would pay attention to my commandments!

Then your peace would become just like a river
And your righteousness like the waves of the sea.
19 Your offspring would be as many as the sand
And your descendants as its grains.

Their name would never be cut off or annihilated from before me.”

Their future could have been so amazing! But they never followed through on their promises to God, even though he was faithful to them, even when he wanted to destroy them.

Keeping the truth beautifully simple and uncomplicated leads to life everlasting, because there are no roadblocks in the way obscuring our view of the future.

What future was held out to Adam and his wife? Was there a heaven or hell? Neither.
How did they lose the endless life that God originally intended for them….by accessing “the tree of life” in the garden (Gen 3:22-24)…….and how did God implement a plan to get it all back, and re-establish his first purpose for us mortal humans here on earth?

It is a wonderfully uncomplicated story….
 
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Did Jesus inherit a sinful nature.....what does the inspired word say?

I could take a pop at it and voice my opinion, my opinion isn’t valid....only the word of God is.

Did Jesus Inherit the sin nature of the first Adam...I think not....Jesus came to set us free from our inherited sin nature....he was the Holy, Perfect, Pure , second Adam.

Praise God for Jesus....who came to set our spirit free from sin...the Born Again..chosen and predestined to become a child of God..Spirit gives birth to spirit....set free from sin and clothed in the righteousness of Christ...don’t get any better than that folks.
 
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Did you know that if the divine name had still been given it’s rightful place in Scripture, that the trinity could never have been introduced.
You are so right! I’ve often thought of that. It was a “master-stroke” of Satan, to influence the Jews to remove His Name, under the guise of “It’s too holy to pronounce”, what a crock! — See Malachi 3:16; Proverbs 18:10; etc, etc.

But accomplishing such an action — removing God’s Own Name, Yahweh, over 6800 times from the Scriptures & replacing it with “LORD” — tells us just to what extent Jehovah will allow His Word to be tampered with!

Truth wasn’t / isn’t lost, Jehovah would never allow that! It just requires more effort to dig, and also requires more reliance on the Truth of Jesus’ statement at Luke 10:21, that it is His Father (Jehovah / Yahweh) who ‘reveals’ Truth. Those who put their faith in a Trinity, fail to grasp the importance of Jesus’ words at Luke 10:21. And Malachi 3:16, Proverbs 18:10, and countless others!
 

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Yet, you make contradictory statements regarding your beliefs, and you leave the conversation blaming the person that pointed them out to you, rather than face them head on.
Which ones? Point them out.

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Oh you refer to ‘God’s capabilities’? Like, if He can die?
No. He’s “immortal”.

Enough said.
And you keep bringing up “physical death”, why? We’re talking spirits here, which has no bearing on ”physical” aspects.

Do you think physical is the only death there is?


Why are you limiting the concept of death to the physical?

Does God having limitations, somehow confound you? It shouldn’t…. God “cannot lie”, nor can He “act unjustly.” It’s not much of a stretch to believe that God also cannot die.


Maybe we should discuss ‘how many angels can dance on the head of a pin’?
 
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Refer back to post #98. Then, refer back to post #101 where I quote Aunty Jane using me as an excuse to avoid addressing my responses to things she said.
Addressed. See post #106, which I edited.
 

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Firstly, the definition of the word "immortal" is "not subject to the limit of physical death and decay". God is immortal in spirit form, because spirits are incorporeal, and thus are not subject to the limit of physical death and decay, unlike mortal and corporeal beings.

Secondly, I actually asked @Aunty Jane if God is capable of becoming a human. She answered "yes" by stating that God is capable of anything. And, God as a human (mortal and corporeal) can undergo a physical (bodily) death. But, then she also says that God could not be a mortal, such as a human, which contradicts her previous statement. She didn't address that.

And, if a sinless human is the perfect equivalent of Adam as she also says, I asked her if God as a human would not be the perfect equivalent of Adam when He is sinless? She didn't answer "yes" or "no" to that.
Are the descendants of humans still human? And what are the descendants of God?

If you think that nailing the one true God to a cross is all it takes to save us, then that understanding is deeply flawed. If that were the case, we wouldn’t need a Bible from the one true God. He could have simply found a quiet place, hung Himself on a cross, and called it done.

But God went to great lengths—having Jesus Christ born of the virgin Mary—to show us the way of life. We are called to be sinless like Christ, for how else can we save ourselves? Sin leads to death.

Fear the Lord of God.
 
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But God went to great lengths—having Jesus Christ born of the virgin Mary—to show us the way of life.

Jesus is the Word that became flesh (human). Do you know why the Messiah and Redeemer that the Father sent was the Word Who became a human by the Holy Spirit, and was born of the Virgin, rather than a human conceived naturally by two human parents?
 
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Jesus is the Word that became flesh (human). Do you know why the Messiah and Redeemer that the Father sent was the Word Who became a human by the Holy Spirit, and was born of the Virgin, rather than a human conceived naturally by two human parents?
The Tree of Life is grafted on the Tree of Good and Evil and may grow the Fruit of life among others.
 

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Oh you refer to ‘God’s capabilities’? Like, if He can die? No. He’s “immortal”.

The definition of the word "immortal" is "not subject to the limit of physical death and decay". Therefore, God is immortal as a Spirit, because spirits are incorporeal, and thus are not subject to the limits of physical death and decay. However, God would be mortal as a human, because humans have a corporeal body, and thus are subject to the limit of physical death and decay. Does that mean upon physical death as a human God would cease to exist all together? No, because God is eternal, which in part means He has no end.

I asked @Aunty Jane if she believes that God is capable of becoming a human. She answered "yes" by stating that God is capable of anything. But, she also says that God could not be a mortal, such as a human, which contradicts her previous statement. She didn't address that. And, if a sinless human is the perfect equivalent of Adam as she also says, I asked her if God as a sinless human would not be the perfect equivalent of Adam? She didn't answer "yes" or "no" to that.
 
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If you think that nailing the one true God to a cross is all it takes to save us, then that understanding is deeply flawed. If that were the case, we wouldn’t need a Bible from the one true God. He could have simply found a quiet place, hung Himself on a cross, and called it done.

But God went to great lengths—having Jesus Christ born of the virgin Mary—to show us the way of life. We are called to be sinless like Christ, for how else can we save ourselves? Sin leads to death.

Fear the Lord of God.

The one God is triune: the Thought (the Father), the Word (the Son), and the Holy Spirit.

The Word as man was the perfect Redeemer for the reasons explained below. He loves us so much that He became human to ultimately die for us. Jesus even said, there's no greater love than giving up your life for another. (Jn. 15:13). Then, Jesus, the Word, resurrected Himself, as only God can do.

The Father and the Holy Spirit are invisible and incorporeal, as was the Word until that Person of the Holy Trinity became human and was named "Jesus". Human sight or any other human sense never saw God before He became incarnate (Jn. 1:1;14;18) and cannot physically see the First and Third Persons (the Father and the Holy Spirit), but sees Them in the works which were or are carried out by Them. [N: 45-50]

Since the earthly creation has instead yielded Adam and Adam's race, Mary witnesses to the merciful superlove of God towards man, for through Mary, Mother of the Redeemer, God has worked the salvation of the human race. Jesus is the Christ because Mary conceived Him and gave Him to the World.

One may say that God could overcome the need to take flesh in a woman's womb. He could do all, it's true. But reflect on the law of order and goodness which lies in His annihilation in mortal clothing.

The sin committed by man had to be expiated by man and not by the nonincarnate divinity. How could the Divinity, incorporeal Spirit, redeem the sins of the flesh with the sacrifice of Itself? It was, then, necessary that God should pay for the sins of flesh and blood with the agony of an innocent Flesh and Blood, born of an innocent woman.

God's mind, God's feeling, and God's spirit would have suffered for our sins in mind, feeling, and spirit. But to be the Redemption of all forms of concupiscence inoculated into Adam and his descendants by the Tempter, the One Immolated for them all had to be endowed with a nature like ours, made worthy of being given as a ransom to God by the Divinity hidden in it, like a gem of infinite supernatural value hidden under common, natural clothing.

God is order, and God does not violate or do violence to order, except in very exceptional cases, judged useful by his Intelligence. Such was
not the case with His Redemption.

God had not only to cancel sin from the moment it occurred until the moment of the sacrifice and annul in those to come the effects of sin by having them be born unaware of evil. No. With a total sacrifice God had to make reparation for Sin and the sins of all mankind give the men already dead absolution of sin, and give those living at that time and in the future the means to be helped to resist evil and to be forgiven for the evil which their weakness would lead them to do.

God's sacrifice thus had to be such as to present all the necessary requisites, and it could be such only in a God
made man: a host worthy of God, a means understood by man. In addition, He was coming to bring the Law.

If His Humanity had not existed, how could we—His poor brothers and sisters, who labor to have faith in Him, who lived for thirty-three years on the earth, a Man among men—have believed? And how could He appear, already an adult, to hostile or ignorant peoples, making them convinced of His nature and His doctrine? He would then have appeared, in the eyes of the world, as a spirit who had taken on a human likeness, but not as a man Who was born and died, shedding real blood through the wounds of a real flesh as proof of being a man—and rose again and ascended to Heaven with His glorified body—as proof of being God returning to His eternal dwelling.

Isn't it sweeter for us to think that He is really our brother, with the destiny of creatures who are born, live, suffer, and die, than to conceive of Him as a Spirit superior to the exigencies of humanity?

It was necessary, then, for a woman to give birth to Him according to the flesh, after having conceived Him above the flesh, for from no marriage of creatures, no matter how holy they were, could the God-Man be conceived, but only from a wedding of Purity and Love, the Spirit and the Virgin, created without stain so as to be the matrix for the flesh of a God, the Virgin the thought of Whom was God's joy, since before time existed, the Virgin in Whom there is a compendium of the Father's creative perfection, the joy of Heaven, the salvation of the Earth, the most beautiful flower of Creation of all the flowers of the Universe, a living star before whom all the suns created by the Father seem dull. [N: 43]
 
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BTW, Matthew 3:16,17 is easily explained without referring to a trinity.

It would be blasphemous to baptize in any name other than God's, and Jesus instructed His apostles to baptize in the name of the one God saying, "baptize in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit". This shows that God is one and triune (threefold).

To help you understand, consider water, for example, in the following way:

Water exists in three states: solid, liquid, vapor, each distinct, united as one because they are the same substance called "water." There are not three separate "substances" of water just because water exists in three states.

God exists in three Persons: the Thought (the Father), the Word (the Son), and the Holy Spirit, each distinct, united as one because They are the same Essence: Love. There are not three separate gods just because God exists in three Persons.

The Thought (the Father), the Word (the Son), and the Holy Spirit, each working differently, and yet not working in contrary fashion, united as one because They are the same Essence: Love, equal in all respects as regards Divinity, Eternity, Immensity, and Omnipotence, but not confused in relation to one another, but, rather, quite distinct, and One is not the Other, and yet there are not three gods, but a single God, Who in and of Himself has given being to the individual Divine Persons in generating the Son and, by that very act, originating the procession of the Holy Spirit.

If you come to understand and accept that the one single God is threefold in forms, effects, and powers, then you'll no longer misinterpret the interactions and words exchanged between Them, nor when They speak about one another.
 
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The Tree of Life is grafted on the Tree of Good and Evil and may grow the Fruit of life among others.
This is an interesting concept, but can you provide some scriptural evidence for it?
To my understanding, the two trees represented two choices….opposite choices…..one leading to life and the other to death. Why would God graft one onto the other?

What did the TKGE represent? What did the eating of its fruit mean for humanity? Why did satan want the first humans to disobey God? What was his motive?

We are designed for everlasting life, not death. Death is as foreign to us now as it was in Eden. We fight to live and we mourn deeply for those we have lost to death, especially if the dying process was long and painful. Death was never meant to happen, but Adam sealed the fate of the entire human race when he joined his disobedient wife in taking something that the Creator had claimed was his own personal property.

They stole something from God and the penalty was death…..but this death was inheritable….so the ramifications would echo down through time, reinforcing our need to have this death sentence removed…..Jesus’ sacrifice paid the price to redeem us from Adam’s sin. That price was paid almost 2000 years ago….so why is death still hounding us today, more so that never before? How many lives are lost through deliberate human actions?

Do you have a big picture of where we are in the stream of time @soberxp ?
 

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Greetings again Aunty Jane,
Jesus’ sacrifice paid the price to redeem us from Adam’s sin. That price was paid almost 2000 years ago….so why is death still hounding us today, more so that never before? How many lives are lost through deliberate human actions?
I am not sure if this is a serious question, but God's time is best. Jesus will grant everlasting life to the faithful when he returns to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years, when he sits upon the Temple Throne of David in Jerusalem.
2 Timothy 4:1,6–8 (KJV): 1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.

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This is an interesting concept, but can you provide some scriptural evidence for it?
To my understanding, the two trees represented two choices….opposite choices…..one leading to life and the other to death. Why would God graft one onto the other?
Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.

Essentially, God is not allowed to graft seeds.

But since Satan could impose the tree of good and evil on Adam and Eve, God could also impose the tree of life on humanity.

But technically, it's not a mixture of two seeds.
There is only one seed can grow the Fruit of life.Those who follow Jesus Christ.

The Gospel of Matthew
13:27 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
13:28 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?
13:29 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
13:30 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

What did the TKGE represent? What did the eating of its fruit mean for humanity? Why did satan want the first humans to disobey God? What was his motive?
Because the first humans to disobey God,so everyone need to represent to obey God.
Eat it means disobey God.
Jesus Christ is the Fruit of life. If we eat it then we will obey the God.
Satan's motive comes from his cunning, if Satan is the ancient serpent, because God only made it cunning.
Do you have a big picture of where we are in the stream of time @soberxp ?
Between the second coming of Jesus and the Revelation.

The Gospel of Mark 13:32
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.

The Gospel of Luke 12:46
The lord of that servant will come in a day when he looketh not for him, and at an hour when he is not aware, and will cut him in sunder, and will appoint him his portion with the unbelievers.

The Gospel of John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.

Romans 10:10
For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Revelation
12:1 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
12:2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.
12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
 
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Greetings again Aunty Jane,

I am not sure if this is a serious question, but God's time is best.
I agree but this is something that bothered me before I started to study the Bible for myself….if Jesus died for us almost 2000 years ago…why is death still a tragic part of our lives? Why is the devil still so active in the world as it sinks ever deeper into a moral morass?

It was Peter who mentioned the way God views time…..

Using those who ridiculed Noah, Peter said to his audience….
2 Pet 3:5-10…
For they deliberately ignore this fact, that long ago there were heavens and an earth standing firmly out of water and in the midst of water by the word of God; 6 and that by those means the world of that time suffered destruction when it was flooded with water. 7 But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people.

8 However, do not let this escape your notice, beloved ones, that one day is with Jehovah as a thousand years and a thousand years as one day. 9 Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. 10 But Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed.”

So, the answer I gleaned from the scriptures is indeed “God’s time”….he operates in a completely different timezone to us earth bound humans. A thousand of our years is just like one day to the eternal Creator.

And then when I realized that the first rebel was not human, it struck me why it was so…..the first rebel lives in God’s timezone, and would be dealt with in that timezone……we are the hostages in this battle between God and his adversary.
Jesus will grant everlasting life to the faithful when he returns to establish the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years, when he sits upon the Temple Throne of David in Jerusalem.
I have a different take on that…..The Kingdom of God is a heavenly arrangement that meant taking some humans to heaven to rule with Christ in his Kingdom. These were to be “kings and priests” to rule with Christ for 1000 years. (Rev 20:6) They were also to be “resurrected” “first”. They are “bought from among mankind as firstfruits”. (Rev 14:1-5)

Jesus promised his disciples that he was “going to prepare a place” for them “in his Father’s house”, but they did not understand that this was in heaven. The earthly Temple was Jehovah’s House, but it was a “shadow” or ”type” of the reality which was in heaven. “New Jerusalem” is not on earth, and neither is Mt Zion..…these are now heavenly locations.

Those with a “heavenly calling” (Heb 3:1) are chosen by God for that very important role of ruling the redeemed earthly subjects of the heavenly Kingdom….they are seen bringing rulership to mankind on earth.

Rev 21:1-4…
”And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the former heaven and the former earth had passed away, and the sea is no more. 2 I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God and prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 With that I heard a loud voice from the throne say: “Look! The tent of God is with mankind, and he will reside with them, and they will be his people. And God himself will be with them. 4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”

The “former things” regarding man’s failed rulership of the earth, under influence from it’s god and ruler, will be gone forever, and a new rulership will take its place…..God will now rule his people through the Kingdom arrangement and bring all that we lost in Eden, back to us.

2 Timothy 4:1,6–8 (KJV): 1 I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the living and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom; 6 For I am now ready to be offered, and the time of my departure is at hand. 7 I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith: 8 Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.
Paul is one who had the “heavenly calling” as did the other apostles and most of Christ’s disciples back then…..he was facing death with a sure hope..…a crown of righteousness fit for a king.

These ‘kings and priests’ are chosen first, and resurrected first…..so that when Christ comes as judge, he will destroy all opposers to his incoming Kingdom, and it will be all ready to assume it’s rulership over redeemed mankind without delay. (Dan 2:44)

Not all can be part of the Kingdom arrangement…because like all governments, it needs people…..subjects to rule, and those who need the services of priests to lead them in worship and to intercede for them with God.
God had a purpose in creating humans to live forever on earth….and what he starts, he finishes….(Isa 55:11)
 
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….if Jesus died for us almost 2000 years ago…why is death still a tragic part of our lives? Why is the devil still so active in the world as it sinks ever deeper into a moral morass?
Let's start with the Book of Revelation about the seven churches, each pointing out their mistakes, but since then, The mistakes of the church never stopped. Because the world is so big, so many people, the woods are big, what kind of birds have. For since man learned to discern good from evil, the errors of man and the errors of the church have been based on the stratagems of Satan. Therefore, the so-called " justice " established in various names in the world is futile and false. Because humans have been struggling under Satan's schemes, this can only be changed if people truly understand God's word.

Because as Jesus Christ said on the cross,
The Gospel of Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
 

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Leviticus 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
Since English is not your first language, perhaps a more modern translation will help to convey more readily the meaning of these Scriptures….no one speaks archaic English any more….the words and phrasing can be confusing, especially to those not acquainted with it.

Leviticus 19:19 for example, reads in a more modern English translation….
“‘You should keep my statutes: You must not interbreed two sorts of your domestic animals. You must not sow your field with two sorts of seed, and you must not wear a garment made with two sorts of thread mixed together.”

Why was this mandated?
For animals, God is the Creator and he made them perfect, even in closely related domestic animals, they were not to produce a new species, as if God’s creation needed improving. There is a genetic barrier as well so that the resulting offspring is invariably sterile.

Sowing one’s field with two kinds of seed may have been similar to the law at Deut 22:9…..
“You must not sow your vineyard with two sorts of seed, for fear that the full produce of the seed that you might sow and the product of the vineyard may be forfeited to the sanctuary.”
Sowing a field this way resulted in forfeiting the crop.
Seeds of different kinds could be sown, each kind in separate places in the same field, which may have been to keep the Israelites mindful of their separateness and distinctness as God’s people, under his Kingship.

And the mixing of threads, it seems that only the priests were to wear garments of mixed threads, Garments of the general population were of various colors, variegated, and striped, and some were embroidered. Varieties of weave existed. The high priest’s white linen robe was woven “in checkerwork.”…often with wool interwoven….the fine linen was a symbol of purity.
Essentially, God is not allowed to graft seeds.
I‘m not sure what this means…can you explain?
But since Satan could impose the tree of good and evil on Adam and Eve, God could also impose the tree of life on humanity.
Again, I am not sure that “impose” is the right word here.
Satan knew that he could not force the humans to obey him, but if he could deceive the woman (newer and less educated than the man) and encourage her to give the fruit also to her husband, (showing him that she did not die) the devil would be able to separate them from their God by their disobedience and become a god and master to them himself. (Rom 6:16)

An immediate barrier was created by their sin, necessitating the need for a “mediator” to communicate between God and his human creation. (1 Tim 2:5-6)
But technically, it's not a mixture of two seeds.
There is only one seed can grow the Fruit of life.Those who follow Jesus Christ.
God had many trees in the garden, all planted by himself….all varieties were available to the humans to eat as they chose, but only two were distinguished by God….one was life giving, and the other was death dealing.
Access to the first one was freely available to them, until they ate of the second one, and immediately the first one was barred…..access denied! And they were evicted from paradise.
Because the first humans to disobey God,so everyone need to represent to obey God.
Eat it means disobey God.
Jesus Christ is the Fruit of life. If we eat it then we will obey the God.
To disobey God meant death, but not straight away….they were permitted to “fill the earth” with their children first. Adam and his wife had many children (sons and daughters as it says in Genesis 5:4-5)
And the population grew until the flood of Noah’s day…but by then sin and demonic interference had so warped the population, that drastic measures were needed to put a stop to the moral decay.
God facilitated a reset, bringing the human race back to just eight righteous people, and starting again.

Satan's motive comes from his cunning, if Satan is the ancient serpent, because God only made it cunning.
Revelation identifies the “original serpent“ as satan the devil. But was he really a snake? Or did he just use a snake to deceive the woman? Angels have the ability to materialize, so perhaps he even manifested himself as a serpent….? We don’t really know, but we do know that the serpent’s days are just about to come to an end, and he will be dealt with by Jesus Christ, throwing him and his minions into a deep abyss whilst the human race, redeemed by Jesus sacrifice, will be brought back to the perfection that Adam first enjoyed at the beginning. Then he will be released one last time to test out the now perfect human race.(Rev 20:1-3)
Between the second coming of Jesus and the Revelation.
Yes, I believe that too, but elements of the Revelation are unfolding as we speak.

Let's start with the Book of Revelation about the seven churches, each pointing out their mistakes, but since then, The mistakes of the church never stopped.
I agree….the church system is sadly flawed….and those who claim to be “Christians” for the most part do not behave in a way that Jesus would approve. He told us to be “no part of the world” but the churches are up to their necks in it. Participating in corrupt politics….shedding blood in nationalistic wars….and adopting all manner of immorality and justifying it.
For since man learned to discern good from evil, the errors of man and the errors of the church have been based on the stratagems of Satan. Therefore, the so-called " justice " established in various names in the world is futile and false. Because humans have been struggling under Satan's schemes, this can only be changed if people truly understand God's word.
Again I agree, but in stating from the beginning that man was not given the option to decide what was good and evil for themselves, relying on God to tell them the difference was vital. As we see ever since, man has been calling evil “good”, and good “evil”. He clearly does not know the difference.

Man was not created to rule himself or to make up his own laws…he was created by God with free will, but it was only to be exercised within the parameters that had his approval. Free will was a blessing under God’s terms, but under man’s terms with the devil’s influence, it became a curse.
Because as Jesus Christ said on the cross,
The Gospel of Luke 23:34
Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
He was asking forgiveness for the Roman soldiers who were just following orders…he was not asking forgiveness for the wicked men who orchestrated his murder. Even Pilate knew that he was innocent.
He had already condemned the religious leaders to “Gehenna”. (Matt 23:33)
 
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