Wrangler
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Nothing sexist and hate-filled about that.
I can just imagine all the feminists applauding a man for saying this about women. Yea, right!
Strength and Honor: Triumphing over Feminism
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I can just imagine all the feminists applauding a man for saying this about women. Yea, right!
Ritajanice
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I can’t agree there....isn’t that a sexist remark?....a looking down on a man...
As a man, I can somewhat agree with that. As a man, I can honestly say that women have strength in many things that I don’t. Typically, women are the ones that can keep a family together as an example.
There are overlaps and crossovers. I’m not saying that there isn’t, but I can somewhat agree with what she said.
I do appreciate this, sister.
My experiences have made me a lot wiser about who I trust, and whose opinions I align with.
I am not looking for pity. Only understanding.
I have been wrongly labeled by @Wrangler as contentious only because I disagree with him (a man with a major ego). Apparently if a woman disagrees with a man, they are a contentious feminist. lol
And the funny thing is, my posts in this thread have displayed the exact opposite. I never said that I want to override my husband. But he has no right to treat me as if I have no rights or voice or choices. That isn't feminism. It's called biblical marriage where a husband is the head, the main breadwinner who provides well for his household, the protector ...and the wife is his help meet. That means she keeps the home, teaches and nurtures any children they have. She is an equal partner, and she has a voice. And according to Proverbs 31, she can run a business as well as run the entire household. She isn't silent, or kept under a man's thumb ...not in a biblical marriage.
Wrangler believes women should have no rights or voice or choices. I 100% disagree.
And brother, I don't mean it in a demeaning way. It saddens me more than anything because it stinks having to be the strong one. I wouldn't trade being strong ....but it would be a heck of a lot better if he was strong alongside me (not over me, holding my head under water). In other words, we should face the world's challenges together ...not alone ...one cowering and the other fighting to the brink of death. I'm a woman, but I'm not superwoman ....just a rant. I probably should bow out for a few.... bless you....
Ritajanice
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Men can also keep a family together and many men have sole custody of their children, because the mothers have been unfit to care for the children..
And NO, not all woman can keep a family together and I’m one such woman..who was unable to keep her family together as a very young mother, that I once was..I’m now a grandmother.
I don’t agree with what she said..
I did say there are overlaps and crossovers. I never discounted it, but typically, it is the woman who keeps families together.
Ritajanice
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I don’t agree that it’s only or typically the woman who keeps families together...
I have my faults and I am flawed, but for my flaws, my fiance loves me and wants to do life together, alongside each other, and never alone, neither one in front of the other.
Her favorite saying to me is, we got this!
I have found me a good one and that it has to be God’s hand alone that I did!
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Before I step away, I want to respond to this. (And I do appreciate what you said.)
Despite that I get accused of having a victim mentality ....I want to explain for your sake and others who have God's heart.
Yes, I experienced horrendous things from literally in the womb. That was purposefully done in order to shatter my mind. (That is the nature of SRA/MK.) But it isn't just something that happened in childhood. My marriage was set up by cult handlers ... unknowingly to me. I was too dissociative, had no conscious awareness that my marriage to a man I met at a church was set up. But it was. He was from the same background as I and his job was to handle me and our children to make sure we were accessible to the cult for whatever they wanted to use us for. I have gained a lot of healing, and freedom ...and learned a lot ....only by God's power and grace. I have had to leave my husband in the past for safety (with the children and a grandbaby on the way) because he wasn't willing to go against the cult and stand alongside me and the children. I left and had to care for the children, grandbaby, and protect them the best I could ....but I have been living under threat all these years. People who run the world, literally ...they considered me and my family (and others like us) an asset to move the world toward the revealing of their man (the Antichrist). Going against them is not for the weak ....but I'm tired... sometimes, I'd rather not be here anymore ....but I want to be here as long as God has something for me to do. That's what keeps me here... not my will, but His....
I think we’re arguing semantics at this point.
I am not saying only. I am using typically as a most of the time. I have said twice that there are crossovers and overlaps.
I agree there are men that can do it as well. I may be one of them soon. My ex-wife’s health is deteriorating and she is having trouble raising the kids and focusing on her health. Her new husband is trying, but he also has his own health issues and has to help take care of her.
So, towards the end of the school year, my fiance and I are going to talk to them and see if they allow me primary custody of the kids.
Way to take what I said and completely misconstrue it.
Oh and why don’t you address my posts to me and not come at it through another person’s post.
Ritajanice
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The Last Word Trait.true from my own experience.of course only God can show us our last word trait...
What personality has to have the last word?
Spoiler alert: their conclusions aren't exactly glowing or favorable. The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they're either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical.
Praise God that I have moved on from being a “ last word person”. growing in spiritual maturity.being conformed into Jesus image....
What personality has to have the last word?
Spoiler alert: their conclusions aren't exactly glowing or favorable. The general consensus among psychologists and psychiatrists about people who need to have the last word is that they're either arrogant, or insecure, or angry, or egotistical.
Praise God that I have moved on from being a “ last word person”. growing in spiritual maturity.being conformed into Jesus image....
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Strength and Honor:
I have been trying to get stronger both spiritually and physicall through weight training.
My role as mother will get easier as our children grow. But my husband is set to work until he can retire, taking exclusive responsibility for our bills and my welfare. I have mental health issues. His life is not an easy one and may have more challenges in store.
The least I can do in return is be respectful, cheerful, and make our home a peaceful sanctuary. This is the most fulfilling role Ive ever had.
Neither one of us got here overnight or through our own merit. The fear of the Lord is what causes us to mutually honor each other despite our differences.
Im black. He's white. I grew up privileged, he grew up poor. We are very different yet unified in values. My honor goes where it is due. Elijah is a better person and servant of the Lord than I am.
Respect is the least I can do.
I have been trying to get stronger both spiritually and physicall through weight training.
My role as mother will get easier as our children grow. But my husband is set to work until he can retire, taking exclusive responsibility for our bills and my welfare. I have mental health issues. His life is not an easy one and may have more challenges in store.
The least I can do in return is be respectful, cheerful, and make our home a peaceful sanctuary. This is the most fulfilling role Ive ever had.
Neither one of us got here overnight or through our own merit. The fear of the Lord is what causes us to mutually honor each other despite our differences.
Im black. He's white. I grew up privileged, he grew up poor. We are very different yet unified in values. My honor goes where it is due. Elijah is a better person and servant of the Lord than I am.
Respect is the least I can do.
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I see a lot of unnecessary materialism around weddings too. All the frou frou pageantry is really expensive and God doesn't care about it. Some couples put off marriage to have these elaborate weddings. Big red flag. Its the marriage that should be the exciting part, not a big overly expensive wedding.
If you can't afford the big wedding, I think its wiser if the couple does that later and marry through the court justice. Otherwise you have to wonder the motivation of the party insisting on a huge eventful wedding.
While I agree somewhat, I know plenty of women who want a large wedding. It’s their dream to have one since they were a child. I don’t see anything wrong with it if that is what they want.
My fiancé and I will likely go down to the courthouse and get married. It will just be her best friend and a friend of mine from work. We’ll have a large celebration later with friends and family.
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It can go overboard.
I have no issue if the price tag can be covered without someone going into major debt.
MA2444
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They used to tell me that too. I found out that it isnt true. It gets harder.
Wrangler
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Wow! Your posts are so raw, vulnerable and refreshingly reflective of the Proverbs 31 wife. (Too bad this is often countered by other contentious posters in this thread.)
So often when I read your posts what stands out is humility and responsibility. I see that too in my 3 stepdaughters. My own daughter, much less so. She's prideful and frequently disrespectful to her man. My other stepdaughters have noticed how brutal she is in this way and probably have more observations than I do.
They recently got engaged but are currently living like hubby and wifey. He is a recovering Jehovah Witness (JW, pronounced J-Dub. LOL). Half his family is ostracized. Because of this horrible experience, religion remains an open wound for him and they are staying away, not raising my granddaughter in the faith.
I don't know if I told you this but almost every time I visit them from out of State, an ostracized family member of his brings up the ongoing trauma of their JW experience. <sigh> All this has put a thick wall between my daughter and her pursuing a relationship with God.
I'm visiting them this weekend. The last time I visited my daughter got me a book, Tell Me Your Life Story Grandpa, where I have to write the 120 page book in answering questions. Some are deeply religious in theory and practice. Undoubtedly, my answers will cause them angst and at the same time, my granddaughter should know the real me, a soldier of Christ. Any suggestions come to mind of the best way for me to proceed?
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