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Did you ever consider that it could be the other way around? God said that if you Trust in His Son to Save you, He, in turn, would Save you to the UTTERMOST! You side calls that a lie. My side does not. Now, you tell me—- who’s in the most Trouble?
OSASers are extremely judgmental to those who don't believe OSAS. You can't be lost unless you disagree with OSAS.
 
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22 Whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.


Whoever has a lustful thought, even for a second is also in danger of that same “ Hell Fire”..... so I am forced to ask, “ What’s your Point?”
Using you logic, I could call somebody an “ idiotic moron” and be just fine .....” Fool” is some kind of Demonic Magic Word with Super Powers to send you to Hell if you utter it .....what on earth is the matter with you?
 

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OSASers are extremely judgmental to those who don't believe OSAS. You can't be lost unless you disagree with OSAS.


The only way to be lost is to go through your entire life in Unbelief....the utter Rejection Of the Gospel Of Jesus Christ is the sure- fire way to get to Hell ....oh, almost forgot.....don’t ever call anybody a “ fool”.....( that last part there was a little joke)...
 

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Whoever has a lustful thought, even for a second is also in danger of that same “ Hell Fire”..... so I am forced to ask, “ What’s your Point?”
Using you logic, I could call somebody an “ idiotic moron” and be just fine .....” Fool” is some kind of Demonic Magic Word with Super Powers to send you to Hell if you utter it .....what on earth is the matter with you?
Why are you changing the subject? Which English Bible do you use?
 
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The only way to be lost is to go through your entire life in Unbelief....the utter Rejection Of the Gospel Of Jesus Christ is the sure- fire way to get to Hell ....oh, almost forgot.....don’t ever call anybody a “ fool”.....( that last part there was a little joke)...
You just called Jesus a liar. But I guess that's because you call people FOOL!
Matthew 5:22 (NKJV)
22 Whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.
 
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David said that if you deny the existence of God .....you are a FOOL....
No quote?
Paul Accused the Galatians Of being FOOLs....
No quote?



No quotes? If I may quote a good friend —- “They are all in the Context”

Seriously though....it’s late....I am tired ....I have DONE my Bible study over the years...
That is why I know these verses and you don’t.....Now it’s YOUR turn...
.do you know how to use Google?
Here’s another Bible verse you are probably unaware of ( I am paraphrasing) ....”Prove yourself to be a Good Student Of the Word....that way you won’t have to embarrass yourself and Stand Ashamed”
 
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22 Whoever says, 'You fool!' shall be in danger of hell fire.

Jesus never said these types were “ going to Hell”...... He said they are “ IN DANGER OF going to Hell.....Not much of a surprise, but you completely missed the Point Of Jesus’ Sermon.....
The POINT is we are ALL in danger of going to Hell.....nobody can meet God’s Standard,which is Perfection .....we ALL need God's Grace .....Jesus did not preach some kind of “Moral Code” That If attained, would make us fit for Heaven.....
Jesus did not preach rules to follow or commands to obey in order to ” Earn” Salvation .....Jesus preached HIMSELF .....he told His Disciples that they “must do the WILL Of The FATHER” in order to get to Heaven....What was the Will Of The Father? “ Believe in the One that He Sent.” So simple most miss it ....Are you one Of Those? I hope not.....
 

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we begin to deserve the kingdom that He has prepared for us.



Give some people enough rope and they will hang themselves.....you have outdone yourself this time....I don’t know everything, but here’s something that I “ Do” know.....” Anybody that thinks they are “ deserving” of Heaven is damned”.....
May God have Mercy on you , you just don’t “ get it” at all.....
 

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You are against me, that is crystal clear.




You catch on real fast , don’t you ? I could not care less about “ you”..... it’s the False, Perverted “ Gospel” That you Teach that I HATE..... God HATES it too!
Newbies and Confused, poorly taught people don’t always know “Leaven” when they see it ....they are susceptible to your Hog Wash Teachings and Live entire lives “ Fallen From Grace” just as you do....I am mightily “ against you”—— and you had better BELIEVE it ! Things will remain that way until you REPENT of your Perverted notions concerning “ Lucky Repentance”...... I will continue to throw it in your face as long as I have the breath and the Computer Ink to do so......
 

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If , and ONLY If , By “Repentance” you mean that a person underwent a “change of mind “ that took him from being an Unbeliever in the Gospel , with no Faith in Jesus as his ONLY means of Salvation , to a person that had his heart opened by God to BELIEVE the Gospel and for the First time see that he is a Sinner That MUST have a Savior, and Recognize that that “ Savior” is Jesus Christ , and then TURN to Him to be Saved...

Yes, you must believe that Jesus is the Saviour...but not only from the penalty of sin...

From its power and practice also (Matthew 1:21, Titus 2:14-15).

When Jesus saves someone, He makes him into a "new creature in Christ" (2 Corinthians 5:17 (kjv))...

In 1 John 3:9, it says that the one who is born of God "cannot sin".

Very likely, John was using hyperbole...which means he was exaggerating to make a point.

What point?

That those who are born again have made a 180-degree turn away from sin, death, hell, and satan, towards righteousness, life, heaven, and God.

Therefore, they are walking in a new direction, away from sin.

As it is written,

Pro 4:18, But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.

You just have to understand that “ Repenting” ain’t the same thing as “ Repenting from Sins”...

God is holy...so to turn to God means to turn to holiness and thus away from sin.

Using you logic, I could call somebody an “ idiotic moron” and be just fine ..

Yes; because those who merely say "Raca" are only in danger of the council.

...” Fool” is some kind of Demonic Magic Word with Super Powers to send you to Hell if you utter it ...

Faithful and true...

The POINT is we are ALL in danger of going to Hell...

Including yourself...

but here’s something that I “ Do” know.....” Anybody that thinks they are “ deserving” of Heaven is damned”...

See the following scriptures.

1 Thessalonians 5:23-24 (kjv), Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 3:9;

1 John 3:7, 1 John 3:3, 1 John 2:6;

Jude 1:24, 2 Peter 1:10, 1 John 2:10;

1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:17;

Romans 6:6 (kjv), Colossians 2:11 (kjv), (NLT).

1Co 8:2, And if any man think that he knoweth any thing, he knoweth nothing yet as he ought to know.
 
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You are against me, that is crystal clear.




You catch on real fast , don’t you ? I could not care less about “ you”..... it’s the False, Perverted “ Gospel” That you Teach that I HATE..... God HATES it too!
Newbies and Confused, poorly taught people don’t always know “Leaven” when they see it ....they are susceptible to your Hog Wash Teachings and Live entire lives “ Fallen From Grace” just as you do....I am mightily “ against you”—— and you had better BELIEVE it ! Things will remain that way until you REPENT of your Perverted notions concerning “ Lucky Repentance”...... I will continue to throw it in your face as long as I have the breath and the Computer Ink to do so......

And I will continue to refute your false and perverted doctrine that a man can be a worker of iniquity and still go to heaven.

Mat 7:23, And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Mat 25:41, Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

Mat 13:41, The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
Mat 13:42, And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
 
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Also, "willful sin" (Hebrews 10:26-31) includes things like what is spoken of in 2 Corinthians 12:20-21; such as "uncleanness and fornication and lasciviousness".


Untrue , but even if it were true.....for Believers, all such sins are covered by the Blood ....”For where sin abounds, Grace Super Abounds” .....sound unfair? Sound like “ a License to Sin?” God said these things, not me.....argue with God if you think you know better than Him....
Knowing that all of my sins are Forgotten and Forgiven because I REST in the Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing makes me want to sin less — not more. God knew that from the Beginning ....I realized it years ago....you STILL don’t get it.....a shame, that.....
You may “ get it” yet ! But only if you REST in the Gospel....it’s the Key for God's ultimate blessings in this lifetime.....it’s the Key to “ the Abundant Life”......Its The life of Joy that I live....I used to be like you...
I know BOTH ways of living .You don’t. You are ignorant of these things I speak of....just like I used to be......Ask God to show you how to Rest in His Gospel .....Then we can be true Brothers and I’ll even take you for a ride on my Harley.....
 

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The POINT is we are ALL in danger of going to Hell...
Including yourself...


Duh...but for the Amazing Grace Of God....
I would be there Right Now ! And it would be just.

How about you?
 

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2) God does not hate my preaching of the gospel.

You wouldn’t understand the True Gospel if it came up and bit you on the......uh......nose!
There’s is no room for the Perverted Doctrine Of “ Lucky Repentance” In Paul's Gospel Of Grace Plus Nothing.....it is a “ cursed” Gospel and read Galatians 1:8 to see the horror that awaits those that teach it....you have NO IDEA about the jeopardy you are in.....
 

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1) it is not FALSE and PERVERTED but true and wholesome.

2) God does not hate my preaching of the gospel.



.....and we know these things to be True because you say so...Pffftttt.....
I got chapter and verse.....do you?
 

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Mat 5:20, For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.
 

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And I will continue to refute your false and perverted doctrine that a man can be a worker of iniquity and still go to heaven.


The worker of iniquity in the New Covenant would be a Gospel Denier....an Unbeliever.....
 
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And I will continue to refute your false and perverted doctrine that a man can be a worker of iniquity and still go to heaven.


The worker of iniquity in the New Covenant would be a Gospel Denier....an Unbeliever.....
Nope....it would be a person who commits sins.

That is what iniquity is....sin....and to be a worker of iniquity is to be someone who commits sins.

Jhn 8:31, Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Jhn 8:32, And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.

Jhn 8:33, They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?
Jhn 8:34, Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.
Jhn 8:35, And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Jhn 8:36, If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.
 
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