Dead to the Law

[BarneyFife]

What is your definition of "a weekly divine worship service?"

Are we really doing this? People gather in the sanctuary of the church. It gets quiet. Elders and Pastor appear upfront. There's a hymn for everyone to sing. There's prayer upfront. Tithe and offering is collected. Special music is sometimes presented. Scripture is read (sometimes responsive from the back of the hymnal). The Pastor gives a sermon. Everyone sings again. More prayer from upfront. The congregation is dismissed.

This is not so much a definition/blueprint as much as it is an example of a traditional divine worship service.

 

[BarneyFife]

I'm not playing games.

 

[justbyfaith]

OH, I see now, you are the perfect vessel that never fails the will of Christ in your life!

I knew you were perfect! He lives it perfectly through you, that's amazing!

No, sometimes I take my life back from Him and begin to live it myself.

In those instances, I am bound to sin because in them I am not abiding in Him (see 1 John 3:6).

I continue to look forward to the day when I will be perfected for ever and will begin to abide in Him for ever (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 2:17). I believe that He is even able to do that for me in this life.

When He has done it, I am certain that I will be unaware of the fact that He has done it (Job 9:21, Isaiah 42:19 (kjv), John 9:41); and therefore there will be no possibility of me saying that I have no sin (1 John 1:8).

 

[BarneyFife]

If you don't want to give the definition, I suppose you like playing games, I don't!

You're older than me, so it seems unlikely that you don't know what I'm talking about.

 

[Charlie24]

Are we really doing this? People gather in the sanctuary of the church. It gets quiet. Elders and Pastor appear upfront. There's a hymn for everyone to sing. There's prayer upfront. Tithe and offering is collected. Special music is sometimes presented. Scripture is read (sometimes responsive from the back of the hymnal). The Pastor gives a sermon. Everyone sings again. More prayer from upfront. The congregation is dismissed.

This is not so much a definition/blueprint as much as it is an example of a traditional divine worship service.

No, sometimes I take my life back from Him and begin to live it myself.

In those instances, I am bound to sin.

I told you I go to service three times a week! Did you not see that? What, do you want me to explain exactly what takes place in a Baptist church service?

 

[Charlie24]

You're older than me, so it seems unlikely that you don't know what I'm talking about.

No Barny, you are of the sort that likes games! I've seen your sarcasm in display quite often to others.

 

[justbyfaith]

edited post #763 (Dead to the Law).

 

[BarneyFife]

There's a reason most stores don't open until 12PM on Sunday.

 

[Charlie24]

No, sometimes I take my life back from Him and begin to live it myself.

In those instances, I am bound to sin because in them I am not abiding in Him (see 1 John 3:6).

I continue to look forward to the day when I will be perfected for ever and will begin to abide in Him for ever (Hebrews 10:14 (kjv), 1 John 2:17). I believe that He is even able to do that for me in this life.

When He has done it, I am certain that I will be unaware of the fact that He has done it (Job 9:21, Isaiah 42:19 (kjv), John 9:41); and therefore there will be no possibility of me saying that I have no sin (1 John 1:8).

You're a double talker jbf, saying one thing and meaning another. You do it all the time!

 

[justbyfaith]

You're a double talker jbf, saying one thing and meaning another. You do it all the time!

ad hominem attack.

 

[BarneyFife]

No Barny, you are of the sort that likes games! I've seen your sarcasm in display quite often to others.

Yeah, I don't think so. Are you using a sock puppet account? Because, if not, you're a newb. So "quite often" might not be entirely honest. You seem to be trying to avoid acknowledging that nearly all Christians keep Sunday as sort of a Sabbath. And that's the game that's being played here.

You're a double talker jbf, saying one thing and meaning another. You do it all the time!

And you're turning into an ad hominem bandit.

 

[Charlie24]

Yeah, I don't think so. Are you using a sock puppet account? Because, if not, you're a newb. So "quite often" might not be entirely honest. You seem to be trying to avoid acknowledging that nearly all Christians keep Sunday as sort of a Sabbath. And that's the game that's being played here.
And you're turning into an ad hominem bandit.

By the grace of God I am what I am!

 

[BarneyFife]

Again:

It is common to human nature to assume that others possess the evils entrenched in one's own heart.

 

[BarneyFife]

By the grace of God I am what I am!

Nice (<---not) dodge. Who's playing games now?

 

[BarneyFife]

Well, sorry, but I got a thing with a guy at a place. :)

 

[Charlie24]

Nice (<---not) dodge. Who's playing games now?

Yeah, I don't think so. Are you using a sock puppet account? Because, if not, you're a newb. So "quite often" might not be entirely honest. You seem to be trying to avoid acknowledging that nearly all Christians keep Sunday as sort of a Sabbath. And that's the game that's being played here.
And you're turning into an ad hominem bandit.

We keep the first day of the week for church services because that's the way Paul did it!

Have you not read that in scripture?

 

[Behold]

I don't have one.

You say have no way to explain how you are saved?
Or when?
Or why?
Or from what?

 

[Behold]

Yeah, if you disregard 1 John 1:8.

Thats not written as an exercise for the Born Again.
See, that Apostle has no sin, but those people he is addressing have sin.
He is speaking to them, as a Preacher speaks to a room full.

That verse is written to expound on the difference between who needs to confess, and who does not.

See, if you are a sinner, then this excludes you from being recognized by God as a Saint.
If you are a saint, this excludes you from being recognized by God as being a sinner.

Which one are you, as you don't seem to know.

 

[BarneyFife]

You say have no way to explain how you are saved?
Or when?
Or why?
Or from what?

No, I don't say that; you imagine that. :)

 

[Behold]

If you say that you have no sin (and you do), then Jesus is not your Saviour (you deceive yourself and the truth is not in you). 1 John 1:8.



No, I do not post against grace. However, I do preach the whole counsel of God.



Abiding...1 John 2:27...1 John 3:6...1 John 2:17.

Water...John 3:5...1 Peter 3:20-21...Ezekiel 36:25-27...Romans 6:1-4...Galatians 3:27...Colossians 2:12...and more.

Confessing your sin....1 John 1:7-9.

See, these things that you count as heresy are biblical doctrines...very likely because your belief is the heresy that contradicts those scriptures.

If you are confessing sin, then your Christianity is not right.
If you are found on a Christian forum trying to convince real born again believers that they have "sin" then you are doing the devil's work, again.

If you believe that "water" is a part of the "counsel" of God, or as you are actually teaching, that "water saves" then you are just one more "cult of the Virgin" tool who is on a Christian forum causing Chaos.

And, i told you......no born again person has any sin.
Jesus has it. He took it, bore it, and died for it, according to the NT that you don't comprehend.
So, if you have your sin, then Jesus does not have it, and you are not born again.

Let me explain this carefully to you.
Someone has your sin.
You have it, or Jesus has it.
You claim you have it. And if that is true then you need to resolve that issue before you die.