JESUS, the Holy Spirit, the Only True God.

[101G]

Yes!!! There is one True Almighty God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit = the one True Almighty God=three but one just as man is three but one = body, soul, and spirit =one little man!!!

if true, then according to you, the Father was in that flesh at the same time the Holy Spirit, and the Son correct? yes, or no.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[jaybird]

Then He must be a false god for the bible also says there is but one true god! And Scripture also says that all the other gods are false!

They would be false in reference to the Most High. A son of the Most High is not the same as the Most High.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

#1. "1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God".
WITH, indicate the same ONE PERSON, only now, diversified.

Wrong wrong wrong. With means alongside of or near or by the side! Sorry but you do not get to redefine words to suit your agenda!

#2. "John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you."
the Father send? well lets see, John 15:26 "But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:"
so Ronald Nolette, who sent the Spirit, the same one person who is the Father, who is the son, the same one person, just as the First and the Last who is ONE PERSON... if not then the Lord Jesus lied when he said he sent the Comforter, indtead of the Father, unless it's the same one PERSON, reproved again.

Wrong again! Jesus can and did say the He sent from the Father! and that it was sent from the Father in HIs name! Saying thesame thing two different ways.

and what is G3313 μέρος meros (me'-ros) n. the ROOT word here,
1. a portion BINGO, and ISSUE, or proceeded forth is the Lord Jesus NATURE, which is Spirit, meaning it's the Same one Spirit only, "Shared", or it is the "ISSUE" from God, or GOD'S own equal portion, just as Philippians 2:6 states... "EQUAL ... "WITH", there is that "WITH" again.... REPROVED AGAIN.

Now you are using what even Strongs says it only MAY BE and then fighting as if it is! then you have to go to an English synonym and then go back to teh greek to come up with you cockamamey defense,

You should give up while you are hopelessly behind!

 

[Ronald Nolette]

They would be false in reference to the Most High. A son of the Most High is not the same as the Most High.

Well Here we agree! Jesus is not HIs Father, but His son! But He is equally God in HIs nature as His Father. Co -equal, co-eternal co-existent! Prior to His incarnation He was known as the Word!

 

[GISMYS_7]

if true, then according to you, the Father was in that flesh at the same time the Holy Spirit, and the Son correct? yes, or no.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Is God the HOLY Spirit,the Son the Father LIVING IN YOU?

 

[GISMYS_7]

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!
Matthew 1:23

- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, "" God "" with us.

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!! Philippians 2:6

Christ Jesus,
who, although He existed in the form of "" God "" , did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant,
and being made in the likeness of men.
8
Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
At the name of Jesus

EVERY KNEE WILL BOW,
of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is "" Lord "" , to the glory of God the Father.
Isaiah 9:6

- For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, "" Mighty God "" .
, "" Everlasting Father, "" Prince of Peace.
John 8:58
- Then Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, "" I AM ""
John 10:30-33
- Jesus answered them,
"" I and My Father are one. ""

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me? The Jews answered Him, saying, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself "" God. "" ===Pharisees knew Jesus was saying He is "" God ""
John 20:28
- And Thomas answered and said to Him, My "" Lord and my God ""
Revelation 22:13
- "" I AM the Alpha and the Omega, "" the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last ....
22:16
- I, Jesus, have sent "" My angel "" to testify to you these things in the churches.===Who but God has angles??

 

[101G]

Wrong wrong wrong. With means alongside of or near or by the side! Sorry but you do not get to redefine words to suit your agenda!



Wrong again! Jesus can and did say the He sent from the Father! and that it was sent from the Father in HIs name! Saying thesame thing two different ways.





Now you are using what even Strongs says it only MAY BE and then fighting as if it is! then you have to go to an English synonym and then go back to teh greek to come up with you cockamamey defense,

You should give up while you are hopelessly behind!

LOL, LOL,LOL, let me ask you this Ronald Nolette, since you could not reply with scripture, listen

is not the Lord Jesus the First and the Last? yes, and he's one person correct. now scripture as to who the First and the Last is.... listen, Isaiah 41:4 "Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he."
How many persons is that? ..... ONE, but didn't you say, "With means alongside of or near or by the side! Sorry but you do not get to redefine words to suit your agenda!" so how am I redefining anything... read the scripture. it says, "The First WITH the Last, so is this two persons? one person the First, and another person..... alongside?.no, for the bible say it is only one person,... because the SAME First and the Last is clearly defined as only one single person, listen..... Isaiah 48:12 "Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last."

now Ronald Nolette, is the scriptures lying? or is it you? ..... see, you ignortanly don't understand what "with" is when it come to the Godhead.
understand and LEARN, WITH means.. 1. accompanied by (another person or thing). see, this is the furthest you limited intelligent allow you to go, for WITH also have anoth definition, definition #2. possessing (something) as a feature or accompaniment.

possessing? lets see, Proverbs 8:22 "The LORD possessed me in the beginning of his way, before his works of old." LOL, LOL, LOL, WISDOM is God, the same person personified in Flesh and bone.... as a man.

see how easy it is to reprove you.

so as I tell you as with some others, go back and study some more, and then you may come and try to discuss the things of God. take the first principle of God and excute it, Hebrews 5:12 "For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat."
Hebrews 5:13 "For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe."
Hebrews 5:14 "But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil."

see RN, Jesus who is God, is WISDOM personified in Flesh and bone.... as a man. supportive scripture, 1 Corinthians 1:24 "But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God." you have no clue of "Diversified Oneness"

see ya,

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

Is God the HOLY Spirit,the Son the Father LIVING IN YOU?

first thanks for the reply, and second, only the TRUE and LIVING God, JESUS, is dwelling in Me, not three persons..... YIKES

and this is the Holy Spirit... Father, and Son are only "TITLES" of his... BINGO.

Now mind answering my question?.... " according to you, the Father was in that flesh at the same time the Holy Spirit, and the Son correct? yes, or no." your answer please.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

- I, Jesus, have sent "" My angel "" to testify to you these things in the churches.===Who but God has angles??

BINGO, on point there, what did the angel say as to who sent him to worship? let's see, Revelation 22:8 "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things."
Revelation 22:9 "Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."

Hebrews 1:6 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."

(smile)........ we're not that far apart, just some fine tuning on your part and then we can walk together in agreement.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[GISMYS_7]

What scripture here do you not understand???

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!
Matthew 1:23

- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, "" God "" with us.

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!! Philippians 2:6

Christ Jesus,
who, although He existed in the form of "" God "" , did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant,
and being made in the likeness of men.
8
Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
At the name of Jesus

EVERY KNEE WILL BOW,
of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is "" Lord "" , to the glory of God the Father.
Isaiah 9:6

- For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, "" Mighty God "" .
, "" Everlasting Father, "" Prince of Peace.
John 8:58
- Then Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, "" I AM ""
John 10:30-33
- Jesus answered them,
"" I and My Father are one. ""

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me? The Jews answered Him, saying, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself "" God. "" ===Pharisees knew Jesus was saying He is "" God ""
John 20:28
- And Thomas answered and said to Him, My "" Lord and my God ""
Revelation 22:13
- "" I AM the Alpha and the Omega, "" the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last ....
22:16

 

[Gregory]

Yes!!! There is one True Almighty God who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit = the one True Almighty God=three but one just as man is three but one = body, soul, and spirit =one little man!!!

According to Genesis 1:26, if one little man has a body, soul, and spirit, then so does God, who made that one little man in his image and his likeness. So God also has a body, soul, and spirit.

 

[Gregory]

What scripture here do you not understand???

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!
Matthew 1:23

- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, "" God "" with us.

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!! Philippians 2:6

Christ Jesus,
who, although He existed in the form of "" God "" , did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,
but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant,
and being made in the likeness of men.
8
Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.
At the name of Jesus

EVERY KNEE WILL BOW,
of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is "" Lord "" , to the glory of God the Father.
Isaiah 9:6

- For unto us a Child is born, Unto us a Son is given; And the government will be upon His shoulder. And His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, "" Mighty God "" .
, "" Everlasting Father, "" Prince of Peace.
John 8:58
- Then Jesus said to them, Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, "" I AM ""
John 10:30-33
- Jesus answered them,
"" I and My Father are one. ""

Then the Jews took up stones again to stone Him. Jesus answered them, Many good works I have shown you from My Father. For which of those works do you stone Me? The Jews answered Him, saying, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy, and because You, being a Man, make Yourself "" God. "" ===Pharisees knew Jesus was saying He is "" God ""
John 20:28
- And Thomas answered and said to Him, My "" Lord and my God ""
Revelation 22:13
- "" I AM the Alpha and the Omega, "" the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last ....
22:16

Jesus is God, but he is not God the Father, he is God the Son. Distinct in every way from the Father, except they are one in purpose and unity in the salvation of men. They can speak for each other, they can represent each other, as can the Holy Spirit, but they are 3 distinct persons. Jesus in a couple of ways can be called the Father, but not to be confused with God the Father. For instance, he is the founder and Father of the church (he is also the bridegroom), but he established his church with the apostles and can be called the Father of the church. We are also adopted into his family and in that sense he is the Father. But again, do not confuse his titles with his position in the Godhead.

I and my Father are one. What does that mean? Are they one physically, or one in purpose? Now look at John 17:11. This scripture says that I and my Father and the 12 apostles are one? Does that mean that they are all one physically or are they one in purpose? It is obvious, they are one in purpose in John 17:11, therefore they are also one in purpose in John 10:30.

 

[Gregory]

BINGO, on point there, what did the angel say as to who sent him to worship? let's see, Revelation 22:8 "And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things."
Revelation 22:9 "Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God."

Hebrews 1:6 "And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him."

(smile)........ we're not that far apart, just some fine tuning on your part and then we can walk together in agreement.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

Who is it that brought the firstgegotten/Jesus into the world? Who told the angels to worship Jesus?

 

[101G]

Who is it that brought the firstgegotten/Jesus into the world? Who told the angels to worship Jesus?

JESUS... the LORD... the Ordinal First...... (smile)... YIKES!.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[101G]

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!
Matthew 1:23

- Behold, the virgin shall be with child, and bear a Son, and they shall call His name Immanuel, which is translated, "" God "" with us.

Yes!!! Jesus IS God!!! Philippians 2:6

First thanks for the reply, second, but do you not believe that Jesus is only the Son? ... and not the Father? is this correct?

if so, how can Jesus as Son be equal with God, when God clearly states there is no one EQUAL with him. well... can you enlighten us?

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Gregory]

Jesus is the Holy Spirit.

Jesus is not the Holy Spirit.

Jesus can do the same work as the Holy Spirit.

However, look at John 16:7, especially bolded
John 16:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

So if Jesus departs, he will send the Holy Spirit to comfort his apostles. This proves that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate and distinct Persons, who are united in one purpose, the salvation of men.

 

[DuckieLady]

the True doctrine of God is that he is "a" Spirit. and the Holy Spirit is that Spirit who is JESUS

Curious. Now, why would Jesus have to leave so that the Holy Spirit could come if they are the same?

"But I tell you the truth, it is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper (the Holy Spirit) shall not come to you; but if I go, I will send Him to you."

John 16:7

Also, Jesus couldn't do anything without the father. He said this himself. John 5:30

I like Neapolitan ice cream as an example.
The whole thing is ice cream. There's three different flavors and they're all different, but they're all also ice cream and they're all also one.

Edit: @Gregory didn't realize you posted the same thing right before me. Apologies

I will also say that the Bible says in Psalm 51:11 "Do not cast me from your presence or take your Holy Spirit from me."

Jesus hadn't come yet.

 

[The Kreisel]

Jesus is not the Holy Spirit.

Jesus can do the same work as the Holy Spirit.

However, look at John 16:7, especially bolded
John 16:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

So if Jesus departs, he will send the Holy Spirit to comfort his apostles. This proves that Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate and distinct Persons, who are united in one purpose, the salvation of men.

Wrong.
I Cor 15:45 Jesus was made a "Quickening Spirit" - do you know any other quickening spirit?
Now the Lord IS THAT SPIRIT - II Cor 3:17.

 

[Gregory]

Wrong.
I Cor 15:45 Jesus was made a "Quickening Spirit" - do you know any other quickening spirit?
Now the Lord IS THAT SPIRIT - II Cor 3:17.

So I give you a scripture that proves the Holy Spirit and Jesus cannot be the same person, and you give me another scripture that you think proves they are the same person.

Well I could give you several more that prove Jesus is not the same person as the Holy Spirit. But what does that go to show. Is the bible the root of our problem? Do we want to go there? Or do we want to agree to disagree? And still be friends in the gospel?

 

[The Kreisel]

So I give you a scripture that proves the Holy Spirit and Jesus cannot be the same person, and you give me another scripture that you think proves they are the same person.

Well I could give you several more that prove Jesus is not the same person as the Holy Spirit. But what does that go to show. Is the bible the root of our problem? Do we want to go there? Or do we want to agree to disagree? And still be friends in the gospel?

Nope, I don't compromise.
The Lord IS THAT SPIRIT - how much more clear do you need it?