Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

[Raccoon1010]

Okay.

Have you ever thought of joining the original church?

Which church is that?

 

[mjrhealth]

The scriptures tell us to search for the truth which is in the scriptur

Yes you found it didnt your your religions doctrines, just as the SDA found theirs in their religions doctrines than there is well you know

Yeah that's proof that you have no idea what you're talking about. The scriptures tell us to search for the truth which is in the scriptures as though you're searching for gold or silver. Meditation which includes picturing, speaking, feeling and study which is what we should do when reading the scriptures. Meditation is the Holy Spirit using faculties in man's heart and mind.
Also Jesus never spoke out against looking up scripture to make sure what someone is saying is scripturally supported.

Ill break it down for you.

Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Who was sent, well first there was Christ than when He went back to God, God sent His spirit to those who believe.
But since you believe neither of them,

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Who, Jesus who is it the Holy Spirit testifies of,

Joh_15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Yes it tells you of Him but you wont go to Him for life, so it becomes your religions and its doctrines you believe same as all the others, refused by many teh corner stone rejected

 

[mjrhealth]

i dont remember Jesus undoing or abolishing a scripture. i remember Jesus teaching on the command of adultery, which was written, and Jesus adding do not even think/fantasize about it. after it was all said and done, adultery was still on the table, the command in itself never changed.

Mostly expanded but

Mat 5:31 It hath been said, Whosoever shall put away his wife, let him give her a writing of divorcement:
Mat 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery.

Mat 5:33 Again, ye have heard that it hath been said by them of old time, Thou shalt not forswear thyself, but shalt perform unto the Lord thine oaths:
Mat 5:34 But I say unto you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:
Mat 5:35 Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King.
Mat 5:36 Neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because thou canst not make one hair white or black.

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

Yes you found it didnt your your religions doctrines, just as the SDA found theirs in their religions doctrines than there is well you know

Ill break it down for you.

Joh 5:38 And ye have not his word abiding in you: for whom he hath sent, him ye believe not.

Who was sent, well first there was Christ than when He went back to God, God sent His spirit to those who believe.
But since you believe neither of them,

Joh 5:39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
Who, Jesus who is it the Holy Spirit testifies of,

Joh_15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:

Joh 5:40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Yes it tells you of Him but you wont go to Him for life, so it becomes your religions and its doctrines you believe same as all the others, refused by many teh corner stone rejected

I don't deny the scriptures that testify about Jesus resurrection. I believe what the Holy Spirit inspired men what was written down, not anybody interpretation of those scriptures.

 

[mjrhealth]

I don't deny the scriptures that testify about Jesus resurrection. I believe what the Holy Spirit inspired men what was written down, not anybody interpretation of those scriptures.

yet that is what you do in your study, as for inspired are you so sure, so many religions created all preaching the same bible yet a different way and a different Christ , or why wont you go to a SDA church or a catholic church, are they not all "christians" does it matter??

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

yet that is what you do in your study, as for inspired are you so sure, so many religions created all preaching the same bible yet a different way and a different Christ , or why wont you go to a SDA church or a catholic church, are they not all "christians" does it matter??

Yeah it does matter, because since I do study the scriptures you and those like you will be ignorant and speak in ignorance when it comes to the scriptures.

 

[mjrhealth]

Yeah it does matter, because since I do study the scriptures you and those like you will be ignorant and speak in ignorance when it comes to the scriptures.

An yet you are ignorant of the things of God,

They worship me with the lips......

 

[aspen]

JWs may be Christian, but their doctrine is not

 

[BARNEY BRIGHT]

An yet you are ignorant of the things of God,

They worship me with the lips......

The necessity to study God’s Word for human welfare was keenly appreciated by the Christian apostles. At no time did they cast doubt on its dependability and thus contribute to undermining public confidence in it, as someone like you have been doing. They always manifested deep respect for it, doing their utmost to build up faith in it and appreciation for it. When the Jews of the city of Beroea in Macedonia went to the Scriptures to see if Paul’s teachings measured up to them, Paul did not condemn them. He did not institute an inquisition against them as the Roman Catholic Church has done at times against those who sought to measure their teachings by the Bible. Instead, he spoke highly of those Jews, saying they were nobleminded. He approved of their desire to study the Scriptures and to use them as a measuring rod of faith and truth. Acts 17:11.

If the nation of Israel had shown the willingness of the Beroeans to study God’s Word and to be guided by it, they would not have suffered the curses foretold in the book of Deuteronomy. The record of what happened to them stands as a warning for other generations. It is a warning to those who neglect study of the Scriptures today. What the apostle Paul said regarding the disobedient Israelites in the wilderness can be applied to their disobedient descendants under the rule of the nation’s kings. “Now these things,” Paul said, “went on befalling them as examples, and they were written for a warning to us upon whom the ends of the systems of things have arrived.” (1 Cor. 10:11) By noting what those people did wrong and what they failed to do, we today can avoid the divine disapproval that came upon them with its disastrous consequences.

 

[jaybird]

Which church is that?

I want to know as well.

 

[jaybird]

JWs may be Christian, but their doctrine is not

What doctrine did you think is bad? I'm guessing christology.

 

[Truther]

Which church is that?

It is the 2000 year old church that adheres to the doctrine and experience of Acts 2:38.

It is the original church, but rarely adhered to in Christendom today.

 

[101G]

You think the verse says this, my oneness friend...

GINOLJC, to all,
first thanks for the reply, second, no need to think..... "KNOW", it's in the bible. or, is it you just that cannot comprehend what is written? if not just ask....

For JESUS hath put all things under his OWN feet. But when JESUS saith, all things are put under himSELF, it is manifest that he is excepted OF HIMSELF, which did put all things under himSELF. 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto himSELF, then shall the Son, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FATHER also himself AS THE SON be subject unto himSELF that put all things under himSELF, that God may be all in all.



Yep, you think they are the same person.

well I was correct, you did not comprehend what was posted? .... YIKES. this is why so many argument occure, a lack of understanding. lets examine what you said. " 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto himSELF, then shall the Son, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FATHER", do you see how ignorant that sound, having no knowledge of or even considered that the Lord is the EQUAL Share, or the diversity of himself in flesh, just as G243 allos states, a NUMERICAL Difference. how ignorant can one be, to say, "then shall the Son, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FATHER", my god the SAME PERSON, but a NUMERICAL Difference. you cannot comprehend, the proverb is correct. Proverbs 18:13 "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him."

understand something Truther, before you comment on "Diversified Oneness", try to understand it first, you just make yourself look silly when trying to answer from IGORANCE.

Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

you have no clue what "Diversified Oneness" is.

now when you understand "Diversified Oneness" then we can talk.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[Raccoon1010]

It is the 2000 year old church that adheres to the doctrine and experience of Acts 2:38.

It is the original church, but rarely adhered to in Christendom today.

Can't say it?

 

[Truther]

GINOLJC, to all,
first thanks for the reply, second, no need to think..... "KNOW", it's in the bible. or, is it you just that cannot comprehend what is written? if not just ask....


well I was correct, you did not comprehend what was posted? .... YIKES. this is why so many argument occure, a lack of understanding. lets examine what you said. " 28 And when all things shall be subdued unto himSELF, then shall the Son, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FATHER", do you see how ignorant that sound, having no knowledge of or even considered that the Lord is the EQUAL Share, or the diversity of himself in flesh, just as G243 allos states, a NUMERICAL Difference. how ignorant can one be, to say, "then shall the Son, WHICH IS ACTUALLY THE FATHER", my god the SAME PERSON, but a NUMERICAL Difference. you cannot comprehend, the proverb is correct. Proverbs 18:13 "He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him."

understand something Truther, before you comment on "Diversified Oneness", try to understand it first, you just make yourself look silly when trying to answer from IGORANCE.

Proverbs 25:2 "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter."

you have no clue what "Diversified Oneness" is.

now when you understand "Diversified Oneness" then we can talk.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

I can comment on oneness because I taught it for 3 decades.

Every verse you read in John etc., that states Jesus and God, you fellers think is saying Jesus is God(same person speaking, sometimes as God and sometimes as man).

It is as if you think God was play acting out a script as the same actor is playing 2 roles.

The Apostles believe no such doctrine, nor should you.

 

[Truther]

Can't say it?

It had no name or denominational ties.

It was only defined by it's doctrine and experience found, beginning in Acts 2.

This is the church Jesus promised to build.

So, to start, one must do this to qualify to join....


Acts 2:37-38
King James Version

37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?

38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

 

[101G]

I can comment on oneness because I taught it for 3 decades.

Can you comment on "diversified Oneness?".... NO, for you have no clue.

Every verse you read in John etc., that states Jesus and God, you fellers think is saying Jesus is God(same person speaking, sometimes as God and sometimes as man).

You Just proved my point.

It is as if you think God was play acting out a script as the same actor is playing 2 roles.

again, you prove my point, you have no clue what we teach.

The Apostles believe no such doctrine, nor should you.

another lie, even the diciple knew, not only the apostle, but LAY people knew... lol... YIKES,

lets prove your lie out quickly. on the road to Damascus, Paul, then Saul meet the Lord Jesus, correct.... correct. now did the Lord Jesus, as FATHER, choose Paul, then Saul for his minister? yes, how do we know this? for Ananias, a "disciple", said this, lets pick it up at Acts 22:11 "And when I could not see for the glory of that light, being led by the hand of them that were with me, I came into Damascus."
Acts 22:12 "And one Ananias, a devout man according to the law, having a good report of all the Jews which dwelt there,"
Acts 22:13 "Came unto me, and stood, and said unto me, Brother Saul, receive thy sight. And the same hour I looked up upon him."
Acts 22:14 "And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth."
Acts 22:15 "For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard."
Acts 22:16 "And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord."

notice verse 14, "The God of our fathers hath chosen thee"

the nation of Israel had only one Father, the LORD, who is God, listen, Isaiah 63:16 "Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting."

well Truther, do you deny that God, who meet Saul, now Paul, on the road to Damascus is the the Father, who choose him, yes or No?

well...... your answer please. and we will see if what you said is true or a lie.

PICJAG
101G The "Spiritual Saboteur"

 

[jaybird]

It is the 2000 year old church that adheres to the doctrine and experience of Acts 2:38.

It is the original church, but rarely adhered to in Christendom today.

Yet every church claims to be that church.

 

[Ronald Nolette]

MY neighbor says yes they are, however he as a Jehovah does not believe that Jesus is the son of God. Now I do not care what he believes, however I fail to see how a Christian would not accept and acknowledge the risen Christ.

Not trying to flame any JW's but Catholics, Baptist, Protestants and every other Christian denomination that I know all see Christ as the son of God

So. Are Jehovah’s Witness Christians?

Whether one believes that Jesus is God with His Father does not make on a Christian.

The issue that keeps them from being Christian or a follower of Jesus and thus saved, is that they deny that Jesus rose again from teh dead in teh body He died in. They use very subtle and nice sounding philosophy to deny it, but Paul made it clear in the Epistles that in order to be saved and thus a real Christian you have to trust in the death and resurrection of Jesus from teh dead as the only payment for you r sine that the Father accepts. They don't so they are outside.

They can get saved without accepting teh deity of Jesus, but as they grow, the Holy Spirit will reveal that Jesus is God the same as His Father.

 

[mjrhealth]

The necessity to study God’s Word for human welfare was keenly appreciated by the Christian apostles.

And yet you stlll havnt come into the truth,

Ever learning, to much bible very little Christ

Depart from Me i never knew you....