What Keeps Us From Sinning In Heaven?
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Yeah, physical. Return. In like manner as His departure. Better than pie in the sky.
Aye, and a little Hebrew helps. "Ben" in Hebrew means both "son" and "stone." And there are spiritual houses built up of those stones just as there are physical families with children and physical houses built with physical stones.
One error at Babel was using bricks. Bricks are manmade and uniform -- easy to build with -- but they are not suitable for building altars or temples for God. No, the stones acceptable to God are the stones the way He made them. Don't chisel them, don't saw through them, don't be altering the stones that God made.
There is a glorious principle involved: God made us all different -- life is interesting, isn't it? How boring if everyone was the same. Yet all those unique stones can be made into an altar or a temple. Paul writes about how the members of the Body of Christ are not all the same. Do people not know this? Peter also wrote of it -- and he should know since Jesus saw him as one of the first "stones" or "rocks".
1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
Were there such "lively stones" in Eden? Ezekiel seemed to think so. Was the King of Tyre a god? I doubt it. I doubt if he had even seen the lively stones in Eden.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
CharismaticLady
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Christ isn't mentioned in dozens of the prophecies concerning Him, either. Prophecies often contain shadows and symbols. It's definitely a thing. I see you've come back to hijack the thread into off-topic oblivion.
All the prayerful study could be vexation of spirit if the words of Solomon apply. Try unlearning some things instead of trying to learn more. Eve was trying to learn more -- look where she wound up.
Mark 10:15 Verily I say unto you, Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child, he shall not enter therein.
Waiting on him
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John 14:23-25 KJV
[23] Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. [24] He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me. [25] These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you.
Lol He was present with them.
there is NO SIN IN HEAVEN we have reached our final stage of sanctification. if you think we have sin in heaven .i feel sorry for you and you need to read your Bible ..what do you think the glorified body is? it sure aint flesh and blood..
I came back when Charismatic Lady addressed a post to me. I thought it would have been rude to ignore her.
As for the "dozens" of prophecy about Jesus, all I can say is that we need to take care what we make of them. People often make assumptions early on about something and then interpret what they read in ways that agree with their assumptions.
You have probably already assumed that Jesus did not keep his promise to his disciples.
You remind me of this:
Matthew 28:20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
Ecclesiates is perfect for reforming our world view.
What would you like for me to 'unlearn'?
Eve was trying to change herself. Not learn things, become wise. I don't recommend trying to do that for ourselves. Look where it got her!
Best to stick with what God gives us in His Word.
Much love!
Waiting on him
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Matthew 10:23 KJV
[23] But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
If it wasn't sarcasm, you have to be able to explain why Ezekiel says he is not a god, he is just a man.
Seems to me there may have been 5 living creatures at God's throne.
The Ox is the pinnacle of domestic animals, the lion the pinnacle of wild animals, the eagle of the birds, the man the pinnacle over these, leaving . . . another cherub . . . the dragon . . . the pinnacle of the reptiles.
Just a thought.
Much love!
Matthew 16:28 Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
John 21:22 Jesus saith unto him, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee? follow thou me.
23 Then went this saying abroad among the brethren, that that disciple should not die: yet Jesus said not unto him, He shall not die; but, If I will that he tarry till I come, what is that to thee?
24 This is the disciple which testifieth of these things, and wrote these things: and we know that his testimony is true.
Waiting on him
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Waiting on him
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Not sure how it could be anymore obvious?
it’s taken about four years to get some of these weeds out of my head.
Look at the sky. The four cherubim talked about the most correspond to the four fixed signs of the zodiac. Taurus the Bull, Leo the Lion and Aquarius the Man. You have to stretch it a little since the scorpion of Scorpio is not quite right -- its neighbor, Aquila the Eagle, is the correct constellation there. Then you go north around the north pole to see what's there.
There is significance too in what is found in the southern sky. It is not a cherub, but it's highly significant. It's the Southern Cross. There will a day when the whole earth is "crucified" and reborn.
Note too that the serpent was "cast down" in Genesis. The proper spot for the serpent was not on the earth "eating dust." This is part of the curse of death. The serpent must be killed or crucified, then restored to its proper place. You can visualize it as a crown of light circling your head if you like. The crown of life. The serpent gets its wings back. The resurrected "body" will be like a calf running about joyfully.
Malachi 4:2 But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth, and grow up as calves of the stall.
Even pagans knew something about how the serpent and healing were connected. We see it in doctor's offices too at times.
Perhaps it could be two serpents on the pole, showing how Adam and Eve were to join and act as one.
It can also be seen as the crown of life circling the head -- the covering. Too bad Adam and Eve did not exercise dominion over the serpent. We see Cain also failing to exercise dominion over things, allowing his emotions to rule him.
@BarnyFife
May I ask, since you included Lucifer, do you believe the elect angels could not sin? if so, what keeps them from sinning?
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